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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:12:38 PM EDT
[#1]
I've shot lots of it - good ammo IMO.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot lots of it - good ammo IMO. Concur. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:17:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Never had a problem with any Prvi ammo, to include that 55 gr.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:20:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Shot some today. Flawless.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:20:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Choots fine
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:22:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Good shit. Buy/use with confidence.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:22:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Concur. Same here |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:23:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Very good stuff.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:28:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Agree with all of the above.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:52:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Excellent ammo. Love their 69gr match ammunition as well.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:53:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot lots of it - good ammo IMO. Same here, for maybe 20 or so years |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 11:39:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Check The AR15 Ammo forum as well, great info there.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Ammunition/16/ And yes PPU is GTG. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 7:30:41 AM EDT
[#13]
I shot a box of 20 M193 with no issues. I stacked the rest of it.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 9:39:48 AM EDT
[#14]
I’ve always found it to be great ammo for the price. I buy with confidence.
Brass loads fine too. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 9:45:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Get it while you can.
National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) clarified confusion in a bulletin it to its member retailers. “Working with Congress, NSSF has learned that Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will honor all Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 6 permits approved on or before Sept. 6, 2021 and allow the import of Russian-made ammunition and firearms even if they arrive at a U.S. port on or after Sept. 7, 2021,” it stated. “The new State Department policy will only impact applications not yet approved by Sept. 7, 2021.” However... 27 CFR § 447.43 states that Form 6 import permit applications are valid for one year from their issuance date. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 9:50:06 AM EDT
[#16]
I liked it and German MEN M193 enough to buy a bunch of both.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 9:54:46 AM EDT
[#17]
GTG ammo.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 11:17:01 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get it while you can. National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) clarified confusion in a bulletin it to its member retailers. “Working with Congress, NSSF has learned that Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will honor all Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 6 permits approved on or before Sept. 6, 2021 and allow the import of Russian-made ammunition and firearms even if they arrive at a U.S. port on or after Sept. 7, 2021,” it stated. “The new State Department policy will only impact applications not yet approved by Sept. 7, 2021.” However... 27 CFR § 447.43 states that Form 6 import permit applications are valid for one year from their issuance date. Prvi Partizan is not in Russia. And it is excellent ammo. I’ve fired a whole bunch of different flavors from them. All their commercial stuff is boxer primed as well, so easily reloadable. They really have made an impact in the oddball C&R stuff. They’re loading calibers and importing components that hadn’t previously been loaded here in decades(or in some cases ever)-8mm Lebel for example. In some of the more common calibers of that type, like .303 British, it’s replacing the formerly inexpensive surplus ammo that’s dried up in recent years. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 11:39:49 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent ammo. Love their 69gr match ammunition as well. Yes the 69 and 75 match are both good for the price. My r700 really likes the 69grn |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 2:04:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent ammo. Love their 69gr match ammunition as well. Both that and the 75 gr. BTHP get .75 MOA out of my precision AR. Can't complain about that. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 2:06:09 PM EDT
[#21]
You really can't be a milsurp guy without shooting some Prvi. Some calibers, they are the only source for new-made ammo (7.5 MAS, for example).
Good stuff. Never had an issue. And yes, Prvi Partizan is not in Russia. It's a Serbian company. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 2:47:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Privi is GTG.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 2:52:19 PM EDT
[#23]
I’ve been happy with their .308 FWIW
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Posted: 1/28/2022 3:03:21 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You really can't be a milsurp guy without shooting some Prvi. Some calibers, they are the only source for new-made ammo (7.5 MAS, for example). Which we might see in another five years.  I really don't want to start reloading for yet another cartridge, but it seems I'll have to sooner rather than later. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 3:12:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Prvi Partizan is not in Russia. And it is excellent ammo. I’ve fired a whole bunch of different flavors from them. All their commercial stuff is boxer primed as well, so easily reloadable. They really have made an impact in the oddball C&R stuff. They’re loading calibers and importing components that hadn’t previously been loaded here in decades(or in some cases ever)-8mm Lebel for example. In some of the more common calibers of that type, like .303 British, it’s replacing the formerly inexpensive surplus ammo that’s dried up in recent years. That's a fact. PPU is the best thing to happen to .303 British since cordite. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 3:53:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Got some in 30-06, 5.56, 243 and 9mm. All shot good with no fails and not afraid to get more. Made in Serbia. GTG.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 4:19:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Concur. Same here Motion carried, motion passed |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 4:55:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Another vote for them. I've probably ran more PPU through my high volume guns than any other brand of ammo. Good stuff. And as others have said their match ammo is good as well.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 4:58:27 PM EDT
[#29]
I’ve shot lots of the PPU 62gr rounds with no issues. It goes bang.
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Posted: 1/28/2022 5:19:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got some in 30-06, 5.56, 243 and 9mm. All shot good with no fails and not afraid to get more. Made in Serbia. GTG. Same, except replace 243 with 45 ACP. All good ammo relatively good pricing and no issues. |
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Posted: 1/29/2022 12:17:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Good
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Posted: 1/29/2022 12:35:39 AM EDT
[#32]
It’s Serbian, not Russian.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get it while you can. National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) clarified confusion in a bulletin it to its member retailers. “Working with Congress, NSSF has learned that Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will honor all Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 6 permits approved on or before Sept. 6, 2021 and allow the import of Russian-made ammunition and firearms even if they arrive at a U.S. port on or after Sept. 7, 2021,” it stated. “The new State Department policy will only impact applications not yet approved by Sept. 7, 2021.” However... 27 CFR § 447.43 states that Form 6 import permit applications are valid for one year from their issuance date. |
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Posted: 1/29/2022 8:59:28 AM EDT
[#33]
I wouldn’t say their match ammo is the best, but in previous years, the cost/performance was excellent. I want to say it was easily 30% less than competing brands, to only make 1/4moa bigger groups.
Most all brands did 1-1/2moa in the test rifle, and hand loads have been worked down to nearly 1/2moa using the same bullet. 308 bolt gun. In a 5.56 AR, just over a minute is about the best it will do, and the PPU does about it. S&B should get a strong mention, as well as Fiocchi. The S&B hunting loads in 6.5CM do 95% of most match ammo in my neighbor’s rifle which is very close to a moa-all-day rifle. I’ve had excellent results with both brands for ball ammo, when the price is right. |
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Posted: 1/31/2022 12:12:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Thanks. I really thought it was...
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Posted: 1/31/2022 3:45:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Great Serb ammo.
Wish that I'd have stocked more. 
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Posted: 2/1/2022 5:15:28 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Anyone have any experience with this? 55gr, M193 FMJ. |
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Posted: 2/1/2022 11:37:19 AM EDT
[#37]
Thanks everyone.
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Posted: 2/2/2022 10:07:21 PM EDT
[#38]
I've shot a lot of the 75 grain .223. It is good ammo and has very impressive terminal ballistics. There are gel tests showing better terminal performance than Mk262. IIRC, the ballistic neck is 0.8 inches.
Accuracy is good, but not quite "match" when compared to American match ammo. |
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Posted: 2/3/2022 10:25:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot a lot of the 75 grain .223. It is good ammo and has very impressive terminal ballistics. There are gel tests showing better terminal performance than Mk262. IIRC, the ballistic neck is 0.8 inches. Accuracy is good, but not quite "match" when compared to American match ammo. No offense intended at all... but be careful when using it in a shorter barrel length ( 10.5"ish ) 16" seems to be a minimum for the PPU 75gr .  Were We Wrong About Prvi Partisan 75gr BTHP? |
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Posted: 2/4/2022 12:56:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No offense intended at all... but be careful when using it in a shorter barrel length ( 10.5"ish ) 16" seems to be a minimum for the PPU 75gr .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdLr-GNfWfkQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've shot a lot of the 75 grain .223. It is good ammo and has very impressive terminal ballistics. There are gel tests showing better terminal performance than Mk262. IIRC, the ballistic neck is 0.8 inches. Accuracy is good, but not quite "match" when compared to American match ammo. No offense intended at all... but be careful when using it in a shorter barrel length ( 10.5"ish ) 16" seems to be a minimum for the PPU 75gr . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdLr-GNfWfkWow. That is very interesting. I chronoed the blue box stuff right after the change from green box and saw no difference in velocity.they must have changed the load some time after that. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 5:30:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Prvi Partizan (PPU) M193
Three 10-shot groups of the PPU M193 ammunition fired consecutively from the Lothar Walther barreled AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards had the following extreme spreads: 3.00” 2.28” 3.48” for a 10-shot group average extreme spread of 2.92”. I over-layed the three 10-shot groups on each other using RSI Shooting Lab to form a 30-shot composite group. The mean radius of the 30-shot composite group was 0.80”. The smallest 10-shot group . . .  The 30-shot composite group . . .  |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 5:31:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Terminal Ballistic Properties of Prvi Partizan 75 grain OTM
Thanks to the efforts of the esteemed Dr. G.K. Roberts, we now have some excellent information on the terminal ballistic properties of the Prvi Partizan 75 grain OTM load. The same lot of Prvi Partizan 75 grain OTM ammunition that Dr. Roberts used in testing had a nearly identical velocity when I chronographed it from a 16" Colt barrel as noted above. Privi Partizan 75 gr OTM Velocity: 2468 fps from a 16" 1:7” twist barrel penetration in bare ballistic gel: 12.6" neck length: 0.8” maximum temporary cavity: 3.2” at a depth of 4.7” recovered diameter: 0.36” recovered length: 0.15” recovered weight: 30.1gr percentage of fragmentation: 60% |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 5:54:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot lots of it - good ammo IMO. This! Nice quality Mil-Spec 5.56 ammo BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 3/6/2022 7:22:50 PM EDT
[#44]
It's not my first choice for "budget" ammo = though here in the UK, even though the UK importer of PPU is a family member of the people running the factory, we have on average to pay close to £1 per cartridge for most calibers of ammunition...so about a buck thirty? - and WE are a lot closer to Serbia that you Yankees...
For a good few years it was always the case that IF the local store had no Radway Green 5,56 for sale at £20 per 100 you'd get the PPU instead for about £22-£25. Now that the RG 5,56 has dried up there is no real competition, so they charge custom ammo maker prices - and even though they make a lot of different ammo now, they flat refuse to import some calibers to the UK ("Not enough demand" - OK, I'll buy an outer case - "Sorry, not possible to supply in that caliber"  )Folk also forget that some PPU ammo can be sketchy quality wise, maybe due to their background. State factory for supplying mil-spec MG ammo = so some calibers they seem to have nailed - my Gew98 loves their 8x57, mates say that their .303 is quite good. I've had appalling experiences with their 30-cal in my Springfield, always seemed to get one really bad flyer per 5rd group - others trying the same gun/ammo combo had the same. Not tried their 303 yet. I did get a case of 7.62x54R at a good rate, not dipped into that yet... I'll maybe see if I can find some of their M193 to try out. I have a few thousand of their 55gr FMJ M193 bullets, so I need to start checking them for consistency and get some loaded up to see how they perform, as an interim measure. Keen to find good M193 as & when so fingers crossed that the PPU stuff is up to requirements |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 4:36:16 PM EDT
[#45]
It’s good shit mang. I reload the brass a couple of times as well.
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Posted: 3/18/2022 4:59:43 PM EDT
[#46]
The last case of AR ammo I was able to buy was PPU M193.
Dec 29th, 2020. It was very hard to get and Natchess was selling it for $399/case. Its decent. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 2:14:03 PM EDT
[#47]
I’ve tried a few of PPU’s offerings and in a 75 gr. load it’s my favorite.
PPU rifle calibers are really good, not always the cheapest but good consistent quality. Back when I had a Belgian Mauser PPU was the ONLY source for 6.5 and was actually available off the shelf at my local Cabela’s for the same price as their 30-30. So I’ll always support PPU even if for no other reason than their support for obsolete calibers. |
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Posted: 3/25/2022 5:48:22 AM EDT
[#48]
GTG, have a bunch packed away.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 11:59:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree with all of the above. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 7:50:41 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Prvi Partizan is not in Russia. And it is excellent ammo. I’ve fired a whole bunch of different flavors from them. All their commercial stuff is boxer primed as well, so easily reloadable. They really have made an impact in the oddball C&R stuff. They’re loading calibers and importing components that hadn’t previously been loaded here in decades(or in some cases ever)-8mm Lebel for example. In some of the more common calibers of that type, like .303 British, it’s replacing the formerly inexpensive surplus ammo that’s dried up in recent years. Yup, I’ve shot their 7x57, 7.65Arg, 8x57, 6.5x55, and 9.3x62. |
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