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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:41:23 PM EDT
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varget is great for 223 especially with heavier bullets.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 4:41:24 PM EDT
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Consider the Shooters World powders. At least those are available and proven by many people on this Forum (but not personally).
Ramshot's TAC is something I use a lot of in 223. It's a ball powder, so it throws charges really well. It is available right now, too. W231 is available as are Shooters World powders and will work in both pistol cartridges you mentioned. There are so many available that will work for you. I'd advise you to stock up on primers, if you haven't already. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 5:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider the Shooters World powders. At least those are available and proven by many people on this Forum but not personally). Ramshot's TAC is something I use a lot of in 223. It's a ball powder, so it throws charges really well. It is available right now, too. W231 is available as are Shooters World powders and will work in both pistol cartridges you mentioned. There are so many available that will work for you. I'd advise you to stock up on primers, if you haven't already. Didn't and i can't find them anywhere at least the ones i use which is CCI. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 5:44:50 PM EDT
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Ramshot tac or xterminator. I use xterminator, still available most places.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 5:55:43 PM EDT
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Tac is great stuff. True Blue or Silhouette are good choices for your handgun calibers. Ramshot powders seem to stay in stock longer than Hodgdon.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 6:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tac is great stuff. True Blue or Silhouette are good choices for your handgun calibers. Ramshot powders seem to stay in stock longer than Hodgdon. Yep. TAC ....and as others have said, it meters like water. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:17:19 PM EDT
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Im going to try CFE223 in my 6mm.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:22:51 PM EDT
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Benchmark is awesome for 556.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:50:56 PM EDT
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I love XBR 8208. Temp stable and doesn’t meter like total ass.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 8:26:24 PM EDT
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TAC seems to still be fairly easy to find.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 8:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. TAC ....and as others have said, it meters like water. Yep. Tac for 55 -77 grain has given great accuracy and velocity. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 9:09:24 PM EDT
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TAC
AR Comp XBR |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 6:44:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. TAC ....and as others have said, it meters like water. When I setup my measure for .223, I throw TEN charges to really dial it in. It's usually +/-.15gr total weight between 3 groups of 10. In mixed brass that's around 25fps SD, in same brass it can easily be single digit. Even running with CBC and RP cases (heaviest and lightest), IIRC it's around 40fps SD. Which is still a lower SD than most factory fmj. So yeah, it meters well.  ETA: I'm not very experienced with it, but IIRC CFE223 meters even better. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 12:43:44 PM EDT
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Varget and H335 is all I use and very happy with both.
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Posted: 9/13/2020 4:25:53 PM EDT
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Thanks, for the suggestions but, does anyone know where to get primers?
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Posted: 9/13/2020 5:15:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, for the suggestions but, does anyone know where to get primers? Normally I lock a thread at this point, but as long as no answers are posted in this thread it can run. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 5:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a question to post in the tacked "where to find" thread at the top of the page. Normally I lock a thread at this point, but as long as no answers are posted in this thread it can run. I'll be happy to move it but I am not sure where your telling me to go. I don't see a "where to find" section |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 5:28:55 PM EDT
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I've used TAC, W748 , varget and RL10x
My GO to for 55gr loads is RL10x, its a short extruded powder. It works extremely well for me using 16 and 18" uppers. My go to primer is Remingtom 7.5 and I will also use CCI 450. Both work well. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 5:28:56 PM EDT
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dryflash3 sorry i found it.
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Posted: 9/13/2020 5:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dryflash3 sorry i found it. No you posted in the forum and I locked the thread. Top of the page, just below the 2 large pink lines. The thread that starts with Where to find/ Just in case you are not seeing it, post here; https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Where-to-Find-Tools-Components-Promo-Codes-Go-Here-NO-off-topic-comments-or-WAIT-for-threads-/42-274673/ |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 6:41:49 AM EDT
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I have used TAC, Accurate 2230, and CFE223 with great results on 55-62 grain rounds.
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Posted: 9/14/2020 4:39:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have used TAC, Accurate 2230, and CFE223 with great results on 55-62 grain rounds. 
Luckily I settled on TAC and have a couple jugs of it. Great powder, meters most excellent! |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 9:00:53 AM EDT
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BLC-2 and Win 748 are good "jack of all trades, master of none" rifle powders that can work (read: not excel, but work) in .223 and .308 from light to heavy bullets.
They also meter well in Dillon PMs and are usually available when the big names like 8208 XBR, Varget, and the rest are OOS...usually a few bucks cheaper per pound as well. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 9:27:28 AM EDT
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I use CFE223 with 62gr projectiles.
It meters like water, is very clean, and produces good velocity with very low SDs. It’s also reasonably priced and fairly readily available all things considered. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 11:17:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TAC seems to still be fairly easy to find. Interesting. I'd take TAC over H335 all day. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 10:35:09 PM EDT
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AA2230 and AA2460 for .223/5.56. IMR3031 and Benchmark are two more good ones. I haven't tried TAC but I have always heard good things about it. CFE is just too slow for light weight bullets in my opinion but probably good for 70 grains and above.
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Posted: 9/15/2020 10:37:48 PM EDT
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I'm moving from CFE223 to AR-Comp for 223 and Grendel
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Posted: 9/15/2020 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm moving from CFE223 to AR-Comp for 223 and Grendel How are you loading and what is your goal with them? I see them as two different mentalities. ARCOMP just doesn't throw well being a stick powder. I do make very accurate loads with it, and really with thrown charges they rival FGMM... which of course leaves something to be desired on the SD/ES. It seems to not give a single fuck about temperature between 30 and 90*f. I'm running single digit (usually 4-7fps) SD, and low teens ES when trickled, and around 15/25 thrown. CFE, probably due to it being spherical, is also capable of amazing accuracy for me. I saw it being very sensitive to temperature though, which I can't get over. At the same time, it shot noticeably tighter groups than TAC or H335, which of course both meter very well, so simply being spherical can't be all there is to it. I've only shot it with .223/55gr and .308/175gr. I don't know if my "nice" AR just isn't that accurate, but I can't seem to get 69gr SMKs to group very well. It shoots PPU 69gr OK, about the same. This is just odd as typical of us all, hand loads shoot way better. I need to try them with TAC and see if it helps. I'm thinking the rifle just isn't all that great. It's a frankenbuild with a Faxon barrel. Runs great, shoots ball ammo much better than any rack rifle I've seen, but alas it's no Criterion or LaRue. ETA: I've been loading the 69gr with ARCOMP, thrown and trickled. I can't get over how well TAC performs for me. BigGame seems to be a winner too in 30-06. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 11:20:45 PM EDT
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Simply due to CFE temperature issues. I load develop typically in the summer when I can get to the outdoor range more for precision load development.
Our deer weather is significantly different than our 90+ degree summers |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 2:29:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't get over how well TAC performs for me. BigGame seems to be a winner too in 30-06. If it isn't for a match, I use Ramshot's TAC in my 75 gr loads for 223. For 75 and 80 gr match loads in 223, I use VARGET. I am also using two of RAMSHOT's other ball powders - MAGNUM and HUNTER for my 6mm match loads. I now have a HUGE supply of H4350 which I will likely never use, as these powders have completely replaced it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 5:39:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have used TAC, Accurate 2230, and CFE223 with great results on 55-62 grain rounds. AA2230 is all that I use for .223/5.56mm. It meters superbly well on an XL650, as in +/- 0.1gr when I spot check every 50 rounds or so. Although I stocked up back in the day when it was periodically on sale, I wouldn't hesitate to buy more at full price. About to try it for some .308 plinking rounds. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 7:45:33 AM EDT
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Started using BLC2 for the 55 grain Hornady FMJBT 2 or 3 years ago. I just keep buying more 8 lb. jugs.
TAC didn't work for me (55 grain Hornady FMJBT) the first time I tried it. Best groups worked in the carbine and midlength gas systems, not in the rifle length gas systems. Yeah, adding powder might make them work in the longer gas systems but my guns didn't give me the groups I want at the higher powder charges. Did good in .30-06 (150 grain FMJBT) though. I tried CFE223 but didn't get good results (group size) but that may have been the new bullets I was trying. I need to give it another try with the Hornaday bullets. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 9:48:13 AM EDT
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Any luck with Shooters World AR Plus or Tactical Rifle?
I'm loading mainly 55gr for my mk18 clone SBR and have been using 8208 but that supply has dried up and im down to only a few pounds. I can easily find Tactical Rifle and AR Plus in stock and its cheap right now at 19.00/lb |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 10:10:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Started using BLC2 for the 55 grain Hornady FMJBT 2 or 3 years ago. I just keep buying more 8 lb. jugs. TAC didn't work for me (55 grain Hornady FMJBT) the first time I tried it. Best groups worked in the carbine and midlength gas systems, not in the rifle length gas systems. Yeah, adding powder might make them work in the longer gas systems but my guns didn't give me the groups I want at the higher powder charges. Did good in .30-06 (150 grain FMJBT) though. I tried CFE223 but didn't get good results (group size) but that may have been the new bullets I was trying. I need to give it another try with the Hornaday bullets. What charge of TAC were you using? I used to use 26.5gr but tuned it down to 26.3gr to ease off the mixed cases in various rifles. Cycles everything fine over 26gr. 55gr hornady seated to 2.200" with a #41. They are all carbine or mid gas with 16" barrels. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 10:35:31 AM EDT
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BLC-2 and unique will will do darn near everything
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Posted: 9/16/2020 2:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Started using BLC2 for the 55 grain Hornady FMJBT 2 or 3 years ago. I just keep buying more 8 lb. jugs. TAC didn't work for me (55 grain Hornady FMJBT) the first time I tried it. Best groups worked in the carbine and midlength gas systems, not in the rifle length gas systems. Yeah, adding powder might make them work in the longer gas systems but my guns didn't give me the groups I want at the higher powder charges. Did good in .30-06 (150 grain FMJBT) though. I tried CFE223 but didn't get good results (group size) but that may have been the new bullets I was trying. I need to give it another try with the Hornaday bullets. Interesting. I get about 2 MOA out of a 14.5" BCM middy with 26 gr. Tac and Hornady 55 gr. FMJBT. I could probably shrink that to 1.25-1.5 MOA with a more appropriate optic. I need to try that load in my 20" nitrided rifle. I suspect it will shoot better in it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 8:53:23 PM EDT
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26 grains of BL-C2 has been pushing a 77 gr Match king thru a 16" barrel at 2700FPS and making nice little groups at 100 yds using my 1/7 BCM barrel with a 5x scope.
Varget is nice too, when you can get it. |
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