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Posted: 12/16/2018 3:18:48 PM EST
Anyone have one of these, or are they elusively for people larping as Russian SF? There seems to be a dearth of information, but they look a bit interesting. A grand is more than I'm willing to gamble on trying on out personally, though.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 3:22:00 PM EST
OP sucks.

No commie LAM for you sir. PEQ-2A for the win.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 1:37:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/17/2018 1:39:36 AM EST by MunnyShot]
For 1k look at a DBAL D2. The big attraction to mil LAMs is the illuminator not so much the laser due to blooming. The D2 illuminator will get you past 500+ meters. Also with my limited experience with Russian electronics they seem to be more built for quantity vs quality.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 10:52:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MunnyShot:
For 1k look at a DBAL D2. The big attraction to mil LAMs is the illuminator not so much the laser due to blooming. The D2 illuminator will get you past 500+ meters. Also with my limited experience with Russian electronics they seem to be more built for quantity vs quality.
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Nyet, laser is fine. :)
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 10:41:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2018 10:41:42 AM EST by mzincamo]
The fact that it's like 25mw laser output is interesting.

I might get a Perst-4 or 1, both of which have 3-4mw output for a longer range build/ non-clone. I kind of want a lightsaber.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 4:20:27 PM EST
I ordered a Perst-4. It's the same price as an OTAL but with dual laser beamz. Shipping from Russia sucks. It's in NY somewhere now. Ordered on the 12th...
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 5:20:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By slowmethinks:
I ordered a Perst-4. It's the same price as an OTAL but with dual laser beamz. Shipping from Russia sucks. It's in NY somewhere now. Ordered on the 12th...
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If you could provide an update when you get it that would be great, I'm super curious.
Link Posted: 12/22/2018 12:28:02 AM EST
Have a perst 4, it's nice and built tough.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 5:17:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By slowmethinks:
I ordered a Perst-4. It's the same price as an OTAL but with dual laser beamz. Shipping from Russia sucks. It's in NY somewhere now. Ordered on the 12th...
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I'd be very interested, as well. My biggest concern is long term durability, I'm guessing warranty repair is out of the question on them.

I'm sort of leaning towards the D2, though, as it only weights a little more than the Perst while still having a reasonable illuminator.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 5:33:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
I'd be very interested, as well. My biggest concern is long term durability, I'm guessing warranty repair is out of the question on them.

I'm sort of leaning towards the D2, though, as it only weights a little more than the Perst while still having a reasonable illuminator.
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By slowmethinks:
I ordered a Perst-4. It's the same price as an OTAL but with dual laser beamz. Shipping from Russia sucks. It's in NY somewhere now. Ordered on the 12th...
I'd be very interested, as well. My biggest concern is long term durability, I'm guessing warranty repair is out of the question on them.

I'm sort of leaning towards the D2, though, as it only weights a little more than the Perst while still having a reasonable illuminator.
Dude if its only the price of an OTAL (OTALs are $400 new), I would just snag it. Appears to be a full power unit according to what a poster mentioned above....not positive on that tho.

Is this Rooskie mil issue?
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 5:44:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Dude if its only the price of an OTAL (OTALs are $400 new), I would just snag it. Appears to be a full power unit according to what a poster mentioned above....not positive on that tho.

Is this Rooskie mil issue?
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Apparently it’s the Russian equivalent of KAC gear. They make rails and stuff too, and it’s supposed to be “SOF used” but then again people can say that about latex gloves and toothbrushes too lol. I cannot find a source tht says it’s issued, or one that says it isn’t but I haven’t looked too deep.

It’s not PEQ15 power unless you get the Perst-3 (listed as 25mw). The Perst-1 and Perst-4 are 3mw and 4mw respectively. So much higher power than a PEQ15c.

This is all what I’ve found from quick googling, so don’t take what I’ve said as a hard fact lol.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 5:44:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Have a perst 4, it's nice and built tough.
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I would like to hear more if you don’t mind.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 6:33:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:
Apparently it’s the Russian equivalent of KAC gear. They make rails and stuff too, and it’s supposed to be “SOF used” but then again people can say that about latex gloves and toothbrushes too lol. I cannot find a source tht says it’s issued, or one that says it isn’t but I haven’t looked too deep.

It’s not PEQ15 power unless you get the Perst-3 (listed as 25mw). The Perst-1 and Perst-4 are 3mw and 4mw respectively. So much higher power than a PEQ15c.

This is all what I’ve found from quick googling, so don’t take what I’ve said as a hard fact lol.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Dude if its only the price of an OTAL (OTALs are $400 new), I would just snag it. Appears to be a full power unit according to what a poster mentioned above....not positive on that tho.

Is this Rooskie mil issue?
Apparently it’s the Russian equivalent of KAC gear. They make rails and stuff too, and it’s supposed to be “SOF used” but then again people can say that about latex gloves and toothbrushes too lol. I cannot find a source tht says it’s issued, or one that says it isn’t but I haven’t looked too deep.

It’s not PEQ15 power unless you get the Perst-3 (listed as 25mw). The Perst-1 and Perst-4 are 3mw and 4mw respectively. So much higher power than a PEQ15c.

This is all what I’ve found from quick googling, so don’t take what I’ve said as a hard fact lol.
Ahhh gotcha. And no Russian version of ITAR issues getting the full power unit in here? Noice!

I might snag one one day just to play with it. Ill prob be sticking with L3/Steiner/B.E.M. for my "do not fucking die" guns tho
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 6:45:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Ahhh gotcha. And no Russian version of ITAR issues getting the full power unit in here? Noice!

I might snag one one day just to play with it. Ill prob be sticking with L3/Steiner/B.E.M. for my "do not fucking die" guns tho
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Exactly my thoughts. No import restrictions, I don’t want to trust my life to it, but having a goofy lightsaber on my blaster would be fun.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 6:51:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:

Apparently it’s the Russian equivalent of KAC gear. They make rails and stuff too, and it’s supposed to be “SOF used” but then again people can say that about latex gloves and toothbrushes too lol. I cannot find a source tht says it’s issued, or one that says it isn’t but I haven’t looked too deep.

It’s not PEQ15 power unless you get the Perst-3 (listed as 25mw). The Perst-1 and Perst-4 are 3mw and 4mw respectively. So much higher power than a PEQ15c.

This is all what I’ve found from quick googling, so don’t take what I’ve said as a hard fact lol.
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I see 20mw for the Perst-3 IR.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 7:37:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:

I see 20mw for the Perst-3 IR.
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Yeah I just wrote that from memory, which isn’t always the best
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 7:58:59 PM EST
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Yeah I just wrote that from memory, which isn’t always the best
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:

I see 20mw for the Perst-3 IR.
Yeah I just wrote that from memory, which isn’t always the best
No worries! I do see a lot of hinting on eBay regarding actual power output of these. Really tempting.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 8:12:49 PM EST
I have a Perst-1 but haven't shot with it yet. It'll be a couple weeks before I get a chance.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 8:14:30 PM EST
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No worries! I do see a lot of hinting on eBay regarding actual power output of these. Really tempting.
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:

I see 20mw for the Perst-3 IR.
Yeah I just wrote that from memory, which isn’t always the best
No worries! I do see a lot of hinting on eBay regarding actual power output of these. Really tempting.
Be our Guinea Pig Jeff!
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 10:54:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/24/2018 10:55:09 AM EST by Jozsi]
That perst 4..
And perst 3
Tempting..

I just was gonna get the Steiner dbal d2..for my stuff in the states.
Wondering if I can order it in Hungary.

For Hungary I got a surplus peq2 unit that was deactivated by jbwelding the laser holes.

I just drilled it out and cleaned it up.

Of course..I know I can't bring it back to the US.

Does anyone have one please.
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 9:57:19 PM EST
Where are you buying these from, ebay?
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 11:39:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/24/2018 11:40:43 PM EST by slowmethinks]
So I got my Perst-4 in today. It's a full moon out. So I took it out to play. No shooting, but I figured out a lot.

I should preface this and say that I don't have any experience with any other laser devices other than my TLR-2 IR. So this should be pretty unbiased.

So the main unit has a lever with three options: IR, OFF, and VIS. There are two buttons for intensity. And two large buttons, one on top and one in the back to turn the laser on and off. Double tapping those turn on a strobe. The buttons are difficult to press with thick(ish) gloves. And they don't give very good positive feedback. That's my only complaint with the main unit.

It comes with a remote pressure switch as well. The pressure switch has a big, fat pressure pad that works well with said gloves. It also has a knob that controls intensity which I like. It also has a safety that prevents a ND. My complaint with the pressure switch is that it's big and not ergonomic at all.

The laser itself works well. I had no issues lasing my neighbor's house 200 yards away. It's got a weird shape to the laser image. It's not a nice round dot, but a fat / looking shape. Not an issue for me, but I can see it if I focus on it. Maybe it's my astigmatism, idk.

All in all, I like it. But I need an illuminator. I may throw a Torch on there if I can find room. There's not much room on an AK SBR.

I hope this gives some of you answers.

ETA: I got mine from Ivan Tactical. But I'm pretty sure it's the same seller on eBay.

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Link Posted: 12/25/2018 12:12:53 AM EST
I like that pressure pad. Unit looks kind of sweet too. You should get some beam shots or a vid
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 11:59:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By slowmethinks:
So I got my Perst-4 in today. It's a full moon out. So I took it out to play. No shooting, but I figured out a lot.

I should preface this and say that I don't have any experience with any other laser devices other than my TLR-2 IR. So this should be pretty unbiased.

So the main unit has a lever with three options: IR, OFF, and VIS. There are two buttons for intensity. And two large buttons, one on top and one in the back to turn the laser on and off. Double tapping those turn on a strobe. The buttons are difficult to press with thick(ish) gloves. And they don't give very good positive feedback. That's my only complaint with the main unit.

It comes with a remote pressure switch as well. The pressure switch has a big, fat pressure pad that works well with said gloves. It also has a knob that controls intensity which I like. It also has a safety that prevents a ND. My complaint with the pressure switch is that it's big and not ergonomic at all.

The laser itself works well. I had no issues lasing my neighbor's house 200 yards away. It's got a weird shape to the laser image. It's not a nice round dot, but a fat / looking shape. Not an issue for me, but I can see it if I focus on it. Maybe it's my astigmatism, idk.

All in all, I like it. But I need an illuminator. I may throw a Torch on there if I can find room. There's not much room on an AK SBR.

I hope this gives some of you answers.

ETA: I got mine from Ivan Tactical. But I'm pretty sure it's the same seller on eBay.

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Thanks for the review. Which PERST-4 did you get exactly? Looking at Ivan the Bear I see a few different options:

ZenitCo Perst-4 gen.2 dual green+ visible/IR tactical laser designator

Visible green+ powered up laser.

IR laser (850 nm).

Power – single CR123 (included).

Size: 90160×37 mm.

New generation threadless plug.

Redesigned battery compartment.

ZenitCo Perst-4 gen.2 dual green visible/IR tactical laser designator

Visible green laser.

IR laser (850 nm).

Power – single CR123 (included).

Size: 90160×37 mm.

New generation threadless plug.

Redesigned battery compartment.

ZenitCo Perst-4 gen.2 dual red visible/IR tactical laser designator

Visible red laser (635 nm).

IR laser (850 nm).

Power – single CR123 (included).

Size: 90160×37 mm.

New generation threadless plug.

Redesigned battery compartment.

Wonder what "+ powered up laser" means exactly....

Have them pasted in above in descending cost, with the "+ powered up" visible green, (regular power???) visible green, and then the (regular power???) red laser. Not sure why a more powerful visible laser would be wanted, as I'd just be using that to zero the IR a la the CQBL on my 300BO AR.

The PERST-3 with red visible laser seems interesting to me for a modernized AKS-74U I run suppressed full time. Would prefer a separate laser and illuminator, but the ergonomics of the AK, especially with the short AKS-74U handguards, makes an all in one package appealing.

Need to get you hooked up with someone who has some western, civilian-limited power lasers to do a head to head comparison.

Thanks again for the review.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 12:19:05 PM EST
Thank you for the review! Any word on warranty?

I really want to see if these are indeed more powerful than our civilian western lasers.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 1:32:13 PM EST
They seem to be full powered units. Would these have issues clearing customs?
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No, lots of people have bought them.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 3:32:29 PM EST
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Customs wouldn't even know what it is. And unless Russia has a version of ITAR, there shouldn't be an issue regardless. On the full powered (perst-3?) they certainly wouldn't be able to tell if its class 1 or class 3.

I think you're good.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 3:52:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:

ZenitCo Perst-4 gen.2 dual red visible/IR tactical laser designator

Visible red laser (635 nm).

IR laser (850 nm).

Power – single CR123 (included).

Size: 90160×37 mm.

New generation threadless plug.

Redesigned battery compartment.

Wonder what "+ powered up laser" means exactly....

Have them pasted in above in descending cost, with the "+ powered up" visible green, (regular power???) visible green, and then the (regular power???) red laser. Not sure why a more powerful visible laser would be wanted, as I'd just be using that to zero the IR a la the CQBL on my 300BO AR.

The PERST-3 with red visible laser seems interesting to me for a modernized AKS-74U I run suppressed full time. Would prefer a separate laser and illuminator, but the ergonomics of the AK, especially with the short AKS-74U handguards, makes an all in one package appealing.

Need to get you hooked up with someone who has some western, civilian-limited power lasers to do a head to head comparison.

Thanks again for the review.
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I got the red laser because it was instock and I don't care about vis laser color. Not sure about the warranty though. I'm sure I could message Ivan Tactical. They even sent me a hand written, broke-ass English note saying thank you... I'll try to get some pics and video when I can.

No customs issues. Seems legit.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 9:39:56 PM EST
Any idea why the Perst-3 is so much more expensive?
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
That perst 4..
And perst 3
Tempting..

I just was gonna get the Steiner dbal d2..for my stuff in the states.
Wondering if I can order it in Hungary.

For Hungary I got a surplus peq2 unit that was deactivated by jbwelding the laser holes.

I just drilled it out and cleaned it up.

Of course..I know I can't bring it back to the US.

Does anyone have one please.
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I was looking at the DBAL A3 or the D2, as well. I'm moving to where there are trees, so I'm looking for a better illuminator solution than the VITAL I'm currently using offers. The D2 is only about an ounce more than the Perst.

I would really prefer the ATPIAL-C because of ergonomics and because I've heard a few guys talk about problems with DBALs not lasting long term, but man the illum on them seems pretty lame.

I'm looking at this: https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/flashlights-and-accessories/flashlights/zenitco-perst-3-dual-visible-ir-tactical-green-laser-designator-with-ir-illuminator/
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 10:37:52 PM EST
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Damn that Perst-1 looks like a steal if you just want a stand alone powerful IR laser. How big is the dot on these? Wouldnt be so good if the dot is 3 yards across at 100 yards....
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 10:55:54 PM EST
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Come with IR Illum?
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 12:14:35 AM EST
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Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
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Basically a Russian Class 3 PEQ-15.

Illuminator and Aiming lasers.

The Perst-1 and Perst-4 don’t have an illuminator.
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I was looking at the DBAL A3 or the D2, as well. I'm moving to where there are trees, so I'm looking for a better illuminator solution than the VITAL I'm currently using offers. The D2 is only about an ounce more than the Perst.

I would really prefer the ATPIAL-C because of ergonomics and because I've heard a few guys talk about problems with DBALs not lasting long term, but man the illum on them seems pretty lame.

I'm looking at this: https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/flashlights-and-accessories/flashlights/zenitco-perst-3-dual-visible-ir-tactical-green-laser-designator-with-ir-illuminator/
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By Jozsi:
That perst 4..
And perst 3
Tempting..

I just was gonna get the Steiner dbal d2..for my stuff in the states.
Wondering if I can order it in Hungary.

For Hungary I got a surplus peq2 unit that was deactivated by jbwelding the laser holes.

I just drilled it out and cleaned it up.

Of course..I know I can't bring it back to the US.

Does anyone have one please.
I was looking at the DBAL A3 or the D2, as well. I'm moving to where there are trees, so I'm looking for a better illuminator solution than the VITAL I'm currently using offers. The D2 is only about an ounce more than the Perst.

I would really prefer the ATPIAL-C because of ergonomics and because I've heard a few guys talk about problems with DBALs not lasting long term, but man the illum on them seems pretty lame.

I'm looking at this: https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/flashlights-and-accessories/flashlights/zenitco-perst-3-dual-visible-ir-tactical-green-laser-designator-with-ir-illuminator/
Yeah the ATPIAL-C illuminator is lacking past CQB range. Also if I recall its fixed and non adjustable. Too much money for not enough output
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 12:33:33 AM EST
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Basically a Russian Class 3 PEQ-15.

Illuminator and Aiming lasers.

The Perst-1 and Perst-4 don’t have an illuminator.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
Basically a Russian Class 3 PEQ-15.

Illuminator and Aiming lasers.

The Perst-1 and Perst-4 don’t have an illuminator.
Me Gusta
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 9:24:23 AM EST
I have two dbal A3 and was about to pull the trigger on a d2 but fuck that perst 3 is tempting.
Anyone have hands on with one yet? My main reason for wanting a d2 was better illumination as the A3's aren't that great.
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Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
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Any idea why the Perst-3 is so much more expensive?
Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
Seriously, thank you.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:07:56 AM EST
If anyone is looking to get the "Death Star" type beam/reach under nods, a common class 3R red or green laser will have almost the same affect.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 11:04:50 AM EST
So, guys, I emailed Ivan Tactical and they it back really quick. Here’s what they said:
Hi. We provide full lifetime warranty against craftsmanship or materials defects. If something happens, you can just send it to us and we’ll take care of it.

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Seriously, thank you.
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Any idea why the Perst-3 is so much more expensive?
Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
Seriously, thank you.
No prob. The Illuminator drives the price up as well.

You should get one, class 1 blows.
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No prob. The Illuminator drives the price up as well.

You should get one, class 1 blows.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Any idea why the Perst-3 is so much more expensive?
Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
Seriously, thank you.
No prob. The Illuminator drives the price up as well.

You should get one, class 1 blows.
I want to, I'm just worried about the lack of warranty.
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I want to, I'm just worried about the lack of warranty.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Any idea why the Perst-3 is so much more expensive?
Because its a full power unit. (Class 3 equivalent, in the States)
Seriously, thank you.
No prob. The Illuminator drives the price up as well.

You should get one, class 1 blows.
I want to, I'm just worried about the lack of warranty.
Looks like its good to go. Look at Nameless_Hobo's post 2 or 3 posts up. Looks like Ivan Tactical will take care of you if it goes down.

But- you'd have to put your trust in a commie. So there's that.
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Looks like its good to go. Look at Nameless_Hobo's post 2 or 3 posts up. Looks like Ivan Tactical will take care of you if it goes down.

But- you'd have to put your trust in a commie. So there's that.
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Look at the Flir fiasco. Made in the US isnt a sure sign of good warranty and customer service.
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Look at the Flir fiasco. Made in the US isnt a sure sign of good warranty and customer service.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Looks like its good to go. Look at Nameless_Hobo's post 2 or 3 posts up. Looks like Ivan Tactical will take care of you if it goes down.

But- you'd have to put your trust in a commie. So there's that.
Look at the Flir fiasco. Made in the US isnt a sure sign of good warranty and customer service.
Back story or link?
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Looks like its good to go. Look at Nameless_Hobo's post 2 or 3 posts up. Looks like Ivan Tactical will take care of you if it goes down.

But- you'd have to put your trust in a commie. So there's that.
Look at the Flir fiasco. Made in the US isnt a sure sign of good warranty and customer service.
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This. I haven't heard about the FLIR fiasco
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 3:47:09 PM EST
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Theyre super hard to get ahold of at times and oftentimes your equipment is returned in the same state in which it was sent in.
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There super hard to get ahold of and oftentimes your equipment is returned in the same state in which it was sent in.
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FLiR is bae bro. Source: me, I'm a flir shill
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
There super hard to get ahold of and oftentimes your equipment is returned in the same state in which it was sent in.
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Yikes! That makes me a hair less excited to get into thermal
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FLiR is bae bro. Source: me, I'm a flir shill
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No, BAE is a totally different company.

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