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Posted: 11/14/2020 8:27:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2020 9:57:31 AM EST by Sogan]
Looking to add an IR laser to an MP5. Will most likely move the IR laser to my thermal night hunting rig when needed. Which do you prefer and why?

Perst 1:
-slightly larger
-looks like it includes a separate pressure pad. Is this correct?
-if it has a pressure pad it could go at 3oclock with pressure pad at 9 or 12 oclock
-Adjustable beam but says it’s only one wattage level
-$150 if you can find it in stock

TOR-MINI:
-adjustable IR wattage
-smaller
-$270
-could fit at 9oclock - red circle in photo


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Link Posted: 11/14/2020 9:05:42 AM EST
No IR illum?


TOR so you can reduce bloom.
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 9:12:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
No IR illum?


TOR so you can reduce bloom.
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My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 9:17:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sogan:

My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two
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Originally Posted By Sogan:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
No IR illum?


TOR so you can reduce bloom.

My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two

With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom.

OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR.
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 9:23:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom.

OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR.
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Without an Illum to reduce the bloom that’s probably pretty important
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 10:24:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/17/2020 12:35:08 PM EST by TNVC]
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 11:40:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed.

Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many.
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Another huge + in TOR’s favor.
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 12:46:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed.

Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many.
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@TNVC

The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2?
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 2:55:16 PM EST
I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 6:26:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AIWB:
I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR
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TOR-MINI 1.6oz
Perst 1 3.7oz
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 6:37:10 PM EST
Fuckn Tor Bois
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 7:32:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2020 7:33:23 PM EST by MunnyShot]
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Originally Posted By Sogan:

My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two
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For a small footprint look that has both an IR illuminator and IR laser look at the Streamlight TLR VIR II or SureFire X400V-B-IR
Link Posted: 11/14/2020 9:22:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By f402mech:


@TNVC

The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2?
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Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably.
Link Posted: 11/15/2020 3:18:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/15/2020 3:29:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed.

Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many.
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Yeah, you can have the TOR in your hands in a few days. The only regret I have is not buying one sooner.
Link Posted: 11/16/2020 8:47:38 AM EST
Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.
Link Posted: 11/16/2020 3:27:34 PM EST
I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC?
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 8:34:15 AM EST
Been happy with my TOR.
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 10:49:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By swimshoot:
Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.
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Isn’t that all the PERST is as well?
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 11:13:59 AM EST
I went Perst because of the battery.
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 12:38:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 2:40:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ranger993:
I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC?
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Those are 2-3x the cost. I agree they are nice but for the mp5 I was just looking for a decent add on without spending a ton
Link Posted: 11/17/2020 3:46:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 7:47:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Isn’t that all the PERST is as well?
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By swimshoot:
Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.

Isn’t that all the PERST is as well?


I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine.
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 9:28:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TNVC:

? Not being a wise a$$. Just curious.
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I think you are being disingenuous.  

CR1/3N vs CR123?
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 3:34:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2020 3:35:56 PM EST by towerofpower94]
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Originally Posted By swimshoot:


I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine.
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Originally Posted By swimshoot:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By swimshoot:
Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.

Isn’t that all the PERST is as well?


I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine.


User name checks out, haha.

As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second.

Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit.
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 3:54:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 5:23:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2020 6:38:46 PM EST by Steamedliver]
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Originally Posted By TNVC:


No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT
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I suppose if you want to have another battery standard.  I don’t.  

Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size.  It’s not that much of an advantage.  

Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard.

Edit.  I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power source  to use.  OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source.
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 6:04:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 8:09:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


User name checks out, haha.

As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second.

Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit.
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The TOR would be fine on quite a few weapons I can think of. Just not on some of mine.   It's no big deal.
Link Posted: 11/19/2020 9:06:34 PM EST
i like my TOR so far. i almost always run it on low to cut down bloom.
And it is Steiner not russian...
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