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Posted: 11/14/2020 9:27:30 AM EDT
Looking to add an IR laser to an MP5. Will most likely move the IR laser to my thermal night hunting rig when needed. Which do you prefer and why?
Perst 1: -slightly larger -looks like it includes a separate pressure pad. Is this correct? -if it has a pressure pad it could go at 3oclock with pressure pad at 9 or 12 oclock -Adjustable beam but says it’s only one wattage level -$150 if you can find it in stock TOR-MINI: -adjustable IR wattage -smaller -$270 -could fit at 9oclock - red circle in photo  " /> |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:05:42 AM EDT
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No IR illum?
TOR so you can reduce bloom. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:12:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No IR illum? TOR so you can reduce bloom. My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:17:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No IR illum? TOR so you can reduce bloom. My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom. OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the TOR, you can dial the laser down to reduce bloom. OTOH, you can almost buy 2 PERST for the price of one TOR. Without an Illum to reduce the bloom that’s probably pretty important |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 11:24:26 AM EDT
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One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed in the USA as well.
 Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Edit, for the USA warranty work. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Another huge + in TOR’s favor. |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 1:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 3:55:16 PM EDT
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I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR
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Posted: 11/14/2020 7:26:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know for sure but I’m guessing the Perst weighs WAY more than the TOR TOR-MINI 1.6oz Perst 1 3.7oz |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 7:37:10 PM EDT
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Fuckn Tor Bois
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Posted: 11/14/2020 8:32:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My shots with the MP5 would be pretty close so I don’t think it’s a requirement. Would be nice to have but I’m not sure an IR/illum come in a small package like those two For a small footprint look that has both an IR illuminator and IR laser look at the Streamlight TLR VIR II or SureFire X400V-B-IR |
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Posted: 11/14/2020 10:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. |
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Posted: 11/15/2020 4:18:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @TNVC The only issue I see with the TOR is the lack of a lock-out feature in case you accidentally bump it. How would the TOR compare to the Streamlight VIR 2? Yep, I have a TOR and I wish it had a lockout of some sort. I'd like to stick it on the bottom of a rimfire pistol I carry in the woods a lot and leave it there, but I holster that pistol and I imagine that it would be getting turned on and off a lot in the holster probably. Not had an issue like that. |
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Posted: 11/15/2020 4:29:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One other, TOR, Made in the USA along with any warranty work if needed. Yes, IN STOCK and shipping daily to many. Yeah, you can have the TOR in your hands in a few days. The only regret I have is not buying one sooner. |
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Posted: 11/16/2020 9:47:38 AM EDT
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Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me.
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Posted: 11/16/2020 4:27:34 PM EDT
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I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC?
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Posted: 11/17/2020 9:34:15 AM EDT
[#17]
Been happy with my TOR.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:49:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 12:13:59 PM EDT
[#19]
I went Perst because of the battery.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 1:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went Perst because of the battery. ? Not being a wise a$$. Just curious. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 3:40:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a illuminator is always a must have. X400v-IRC or for a really small footprint maybe the XC2-IRC? Those are 2-3x the cost. I agree they are nice but for the mp5 I was just looking for a decent add on without spending a ton |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:46:09 PM EDT
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I got a TOR for use on a pistol.
I liked it. It was easy to hit in the on button, press trigger, and then switch the laser back off. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 8:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 10:28:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ? Not being a wise a$$. Just curious. I think you are being disingenuous. CR1/3N vs CR123? |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 4:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Being only water "resistant" makes the TOR a no-go for me. Isn’t that all the PERST is as well? I have 2 PERST 1s and a PERST 3. I turned one of the -1s on and put it in a sink for 45 minutes, and it works fine. User name checks out, haha. As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second. Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 4:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you are being disingenuous. CR1/3N vs CR123? No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 6:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power source to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 7:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power sounds to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No Sir, 1/3N everywhere and not expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL14BZL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_RSTTFbPYZMXAT I suppose if you want to have another battery standard. I don’t. Literally the only benefit of the 1/3N is the size. It’s not that much of an advantage. Even my garage door opener moved to a better battery standard. Edit. I ain’t trying to convince anyone about what power sounds to use. OP asked A vs B, and I bought the Perst because I didn’t like the 1/3N power source. All good Brother, never thought any different with your reply. I don't own a Perst nor know much about them so thanks for the education. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 9:09:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: User name checks out, haha. As to the OP, I don't have a PERST-1 (I do have 2 PERST-2s) but I do have a TOR. I got mine for a PS90 and would go with the TOR for an MP5 as it seems like a pistol caliber carbine mounted IR laser should be lightweight and have a small footprint first and a powerful beam second. Not like you're likely to be taking 300yd shots with that thing and need the extra power of the Ruskie unit. The TOR would be fine on quite a few weapons I can think of. Just not on some of mine. It's no big deal. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 10:06:34 PM EDT
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i like my TOR so far. i almost always run it on low to cut down bloom.
And it is Steiner not russian... |
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