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Posted: 5/7/2022 1:13:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: teamjawbox]
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Anyone know where to source the spacers that come with the AEM brake for the AEM5? Not the shims or a crush washer, but the spacer. I've either lost one or one didn't come with one of the brakes I purchased. Would like to snag some so that I've got extras on hand.
ETA: pic for reference  Attached File |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2022 10:22:01 PM EDT
[#2]
I believe Ron Allen is the source of the spacer.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 10:38:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW56: I believe Ron Allen is the source of the spacer. Thanks! I shot him an email. Much appreciated! |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 8:30:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hidesite]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Green0: When I went to Sniper School the schoolhouse had a couple M24A2's in inventory, and the instructors shot one a couple times during the course, just getting a little trigger time. I remember it being odd to see one, aka there were only maybe 2 M24A2 rifles at the schoolhouse. The M24A2 was not very common. This is the schoolhouse rifle I was shooting. We did only have two. This was before I got the newer bottom metal sent over that took the AI mags.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:03:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hidesite: This is the schoolhouse rifle I was shooting. We did only have two. This was before I got the newer bottom metal sent over that took the AI mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1891/DSC03003__Large__JPG-2380470.JPG Cool! I wasn't aware of the magazine change. Getting the number right is kind of a long range Kim's game haha.  Coming up on 14 years.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:27:59 PM EDT
[#6]
I've had a couple of M24's here at the shop over the years(quite a few years ago actually). The Remington Military Marketing guys dropped by on the way to Shot Show once as well.
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Posted: 5/12/2022 7:56:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: You can get 6.5 and 7.62 5/8x24 brakes. Uh, where? I’m in need… |
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Posted: 5/12/2022 8:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YeOldeCircles: Uh, where? I’m in need… Send an email to Ron. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 9:53:24 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm out right now. Batch in process, 3 weeks or so.
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:22:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I've had a couple of M24's here at the shop over the years(quite a few years ago actually). The Remington Military Marketing guys dropped by on the way to Shot Show once as well. RonA We have a pair of M24’s here but not A2’s, they are std m-24’s. Putting a suppressor on an m-24 is a pretty substantial upgrade, as would be drill/ream and dowel pinning the base or bases (in later models) to the action. The latter wasn’t a modification offered in the A2 package. I skim bedded the base only not screws on my rifle here with loctite 650f red permanent sealant and over torqued the 8-40’s to 28 in lbs from the factory which seemed around 18. I don’t know if that would resolve that or not. The issue rifles would change windage of zero ~+-1moa after slight handling misshaps like tipping over off the 9” bipod to the bed of a truck. I think the base would slip side to side a few thousandths when encountering a slight handling impact like that. The Marine m40A_ series base is lugged and is stuffed into the clip slots of the action and that makes its zero substantially more durable at least when the fit is size on size as in the only example I have put a base on. That was essentially a press fit. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 6:09:14 PM EDT
[#11]
I suppose the bores on AEM5s are too tight for 6mmARC?
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:12:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryIs this barrel profiled to the AE30 print on Ron’s site? This plus a brake gets you the AEM5-30 mounted with as much barrel meat one can have, is that right? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:11:59 PM EDT
[#13]
That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him?
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Posted: 5/17/2022 11:13:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Embittered]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Originally Posted By bradpierson26: I suppose the bores on AEM5s are too tight for 6mmARC? |
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Posted: 5/17/2022 11:32:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YeOldeCircles: So the same thing but longer OTB dimension/further back taper (and different threads). I guess my question is whether or not a barrel profiled to the AE30 print + .30cal AEM brake = collarless mounting for AEM5-30. That’s what you were originally going for in your build @outrider is that right? There’s a post in this thread where @unclemoak shares the dimensions of various AEM5/Ops 12th style cans. The aperture is large enough to physically pass a .264 diameter bullet through, but you’d likely want more clearance. IIRC his AEM5 bored for 6mm ARC had a .3xx aperture rather than the .27x aperture Ron is making these days. Ron told me to use the AE30 print with the muzzle threads being .625 long. |
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Posted: 5/17/2022 1:03:56 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I'm out right now. Batch in process, 3 weeks or so. Fingers crossed that my preorder is in that batch. |
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Posted: 5/17/2022 4:25:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Embittered]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Ron told me to use the AE30 print with the muzzle threads being .625 long. Perfect. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2022 10:23:15 PM EDT
[#18]
Just finished another batch of AEM5's. Still behind though.
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Posted: 5/18/2022 7:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Just finished another batch of AEM5's. Still behind though.  Thank you for all your hard work. I’ve had so much fun with mine since it exited NFA jail in 2019. I really hope the electronic NFA process is fast for the guys getting one in this batch. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 12:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform  Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before then
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Posted: 5/19/2022 3:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before thenQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before thenDamn |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 3:48:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I’m on 110 Damn Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By Shlouf: Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before thenDamn I feel so sorry for y'all as I received two stamps yesterday that were just shy of a year. I've been thinking about what to do with my AEM5-30 and have decided to pursue a micro bolt action .300 BLK SBR. Should be a fun one. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:55:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 20andOUT]
[#23]
Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning.
I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish.  -Mike |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 7:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 10:20:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 20andOUT]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Captain92: Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Captain92: Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee.    ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 11:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20andOUT: PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike Yeah, that's what I would do. Just sign up for email alerts or reach out to individual dealers and see if they have a wait list etc. And thanks for info on that range. Wish I was closer to it. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 11:34:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: teamjawbox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20andOUT: PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20andOUT: Originally Posted By Captain92: Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike I wound up doing a backorder through DSG quite a while ago. Took about 10 months for it to come in. Then filed the paperwork and am about 179 days into that (pre e-file). Wish I woulda backordered 2 at the time instead of just the one.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 9:47:30 AM EDT
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Received an AEM5, Thanks to Ron and the Allen Engineering team. The can looks beautiful. It appears to be perfectly executed. A very nicely manufactured silencer.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/26/2022 10:34:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date.
Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 1:23:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Green0: Received an AEM5, Thanks to Ron and the Allen Engineering team. The can looks beautiful. It appears to be perfectly executed. A very nicely manufactured silencer. Lucky. My eForm 4 was submitted April 1. Hopefully not much longer. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 1:58:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date. Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. Email sent. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 2:09:45 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date. Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. Messaged you back, Ron. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 2:17:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Email sent to Ron.
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Posted: 5/29/2022 12:09:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete?
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Posted: 5/29/2022 2:38:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Captain92]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete? Last time I picked one up, was from Fulton Armory....was couple yrs ago. Eta: Was stripped. Just now looked, they don't have any. There are several on GB, but sheesh....prices are all over place. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 6:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete? EE or facebook groups. Prices are high due to supply/demand. Haven't been made in a while and there has been a resurgence in retro interest. Last one I inquired about dude wanted 300 for an A2 upper with forward assist and dust cover. C7 uppers are even more than that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:43:04 PM EDT
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Good luck man.
They have all but dried up these days at least at any decent prices. If you do find one the markup is ridiculous at the moment. |
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Posted: 5/30/2022 8:52:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date. Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. Sent my via ar15 generated email and can't seem to find it now :/ |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2022 9:31:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Captain92: Last time I picked one up, was from Fulton Armory....was couple yrs ago. Eta: Was stripped. Just now looked, they don't have any. There are several on GB, but sheesh....prices are all over place. I heard it direct from several manufacturers: The forge companies are not making A1 and A2 uppers, and do not plan to for at least 6 months, and then plan on a wait to get into distribution channels and whatever waitlists are out there. What I heard was basic business logic: getting harder to get quality aluminum, as the trace metals in the alloys come from Russia and China, and the forge machines are working at capacity producing M4/A4 uppers, so no time to stop the machines and do a run that represents >0.05 % of the overall forge market. Now, in the meantime, you have the old Nodak, now H&R, with their own forges but still trying to figure out how they are going to build and sell. You have the Russian Paint guy looking to buy a forge, and make 'em the right way, but that is a year away, and you have DPMS (which is owned by the same company who owns H&R) coming out with some retro builds. |
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Posted: 5/31/2022 1:56:47 PM EDT
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@k31user
Thank you for finding that email. I replied back. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2022 9:22:55 AM EDT
[#41]
 I came across this picture in EE (listing for same model handguard) of Remington/DPMS rifle entered for the M-110 trials. Of course the suppressor caught my eye and I’m intrigued. Is it the 12th model in 30 cal or the M24 model? The knurling is in the middle of the can. Knurling on my AEM5-30 is at the front. I don’t see a collar so assume the taper was contoured into the barrel, which is fluted. My googlefu is weak and I didn’t find much about this rifle. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2022 11:45:52 AM EDT
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Looks like an M24 but if you can scale the drawing, a 12th-30 is 10x the diameter long and an M24 is a bit over 11x the diameter.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2022 10:45:14 AM EDT
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My wait is finally over...
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Posted: 6/8/2022 4:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Sent my via ar15 generated email and can't seem to find it now :/ |
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Posted: 6/8/2022 8:01:05 PM EDT
[#45]
Ive got more suppressed AR's than I could even use at this point, but my mk12 with an AE can is by far my favorite...
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Posted: 6/8/2022 8:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redoubt99: Ive got more suppressed AR's than I could even use at this point, but my mk12 with an AE can is by far my favorite... https://i.ibb.co/RDg4yJt/IMG-0348.jpg Agreed. My AEM5 probably has more rounds through it than all my other centerfire rifle cans combined. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 3:47:35 PM EDT
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finally got form 4 approval for my m24 can but my dealer is closed for vacation all next week
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:23:50 AM EDT
[#48]
Damn it man, that sucks!!!! You're gonna love that can.
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Posted: 6/16/2022 4:21:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2022 2:57:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: Every time I visit this thread I get the urge to build a bolt gun with a profiled barrel. Sexy and super quiet. can ADCO @bigbore do this threading? i will call them tomorrow about it as they are closed today. i wonder what the current turn around time is. im dumb and have been thinking about my 223 bolt action all wrong. its been threaded 5/8x24 using a direct thread 30 cal can for a couple of years now. need to cut the barrel at those threads, have it reprofiled/collar installed and get it threaded up for one of my AEM5s. |
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