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[Last Edit: stainlineho]
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: I went ahead and ordered it this afternoon. I also added a MI m lok drop in rail to my order. Going for that pseudo retro yet also modern look lol. I'm also eyeballing what I have here in the spare parts bin to recycle some parts because like you not wanting to drop a ton on this either. They only show 4 uppers in stock now after I placed my order so if you haven't yet you might not want to wait too much longer. I figured better snag it now before its out of stock and god knows when it might be restocked given the current times we are in. I have the bootleg adjustable carrier I can pull from my 10.5 if I need to. I can also utilize the A5A2 buffer, tube and spring or the a5 tube, Tubb flat spring and 9mm Hydraulic buffer (Amphibian's special lol) if I need to tame it some. Curious what buffer/spring combos you guys are running with your 12.5/AEM5 setups? Once I have this in hand I'll have to get measurements to give Ron a call about getting a collar made. Looking forward to this. View Quote I just ordered the last one. I figured this is the best bet. I did find the barrel for 135 shipped but after you add FSB, gas tube, delta ring, and barrel nut, it came to 190. BCM blem uppers are gone so you're at 100 for an upper pretty much. Just made sense to get this as I'd get a BA barrel anyway and hopefully the FSB is professionally assembled and aligned. We'll see. Ron will get a call/email asap for a collar too. |
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Anybody with an extra M4 .700 x .700 collar they might want to part with, PM me.
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[Last Edit: jeremywills]
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Originally Posted By stainlineho: I just ordered the last one. I figured this is the best bet. I did find the barrel for 135 shipped but after you add FSB, gas tube, delta ring, and barrel nut, it came to 190. BCM blem uppers are gone so you're at 100 for an upper pretty much. Just made sense to get this as I'd get a BA barrel anyway and hopefully the FSB is professionally assembled and aligned. We'll see. Ron will get a call/email asap for a collar too. View Quote I kinda came to the same conclusion. They shipped mine out this morning. As soon as I have it in hand with the step measurements I'll give Ron a holler. Going back to page 8 of this thread someone discovered their 12.5 BA barrel has the correct step dimension for the AEM5 M4 collar but no sense in taking a chance. I don't think anyone has the default one in stock anyway other than Ron so I'd have to call regardless. |
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yes thats what i see with 75/80 eldm and my not maxed out loads.
i want a mod 0 224valk some day :) |
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Have you tried wrapping it in bacon? I've always wanted to do that.
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Originally Posted By k31user: Have you tried wrapping it in bacon? I've always wanted to do that. View Quote Most American Breakfast Ever! Cooked On An AR-15 ???? |
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Mod. Pls delete. Thanks.
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[Last Edit: UnknownPatriot]
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AEM5 just broke out of NFA jail. March 13 to August 19. I was surprised.
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[Last Edit: jeremywills]
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My dealer told me the other day he's had a few stamps come back in the 5-6 month timeframe for some submissions just before the one I submitted in March for the R2. The AEM5 was more recent but............ hoping that if they are about to approve the other one I might get lucky with dual approval for this one. Not counting on it though.
@stainlineho Appreciate the notes comparison. Looking forward to getting the collar for this 12.5 and trying the AEM5 out. I'm curious to see how yours winds up looking when all is said and done. |
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I hope the 5-6 month trend continues for y’all waiting on your aem5. Glad my stamp is out of your way
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: My dealer told me the other day he's had a few stamps come back in the 5-6 month timeframe for some submissions just before the one I submitted in March for the R2. The AEM5 was more recent but............ hoping that if they are about to approve the other one I might get lucky with dual approval for this one. Not counting on it though. @stainlineho Appreciate the notes comparison. Looking forward to getting the collar for this 12.5 and trying the AEM5 out. I'm curious to see how yours winds up looking when all is said and done. View Quote Hopefully you got my other PM, I think I sent it. As soon as the collar arrives which I assume will be a few weeks, I'm going to take it to the range and test the AEM5 on it. I've shot my AEM5 on my Mk-ish-12, and the loudest part is the buffer spring, which I have replaced with a silent capture spring. |
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[Last Edit: jeremywills]
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I finally uploaded the video of my nephew checking out my "sniper" as he kept referring to it lol. He loved the 300blk pistol/R2 and Taurus TX22/Mask combos but he clearly said this was his favorite of the day. He's already begging to go back and shoot it again.
I think the loudest part of my setup is that classic Vortex flash hider "ping" I've missed it since gravitating over to Keymo on everything else. A brake makes more sense to me on the 12.5 with it being more abusive to the blast baffle. Nephew's first range trip and shooting my AEM5 suppressor |
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: I finally uploaded the video of my nephew checking out my "sniper" as he kept referring to it lol. He loved the 300blk pistol/R2 and Taurus TX22/Mask combos but he clearly said this was his favorite of the day. He's already begging to go back and shoot it again. I think the loudest part of my setup is that classic Vortex flash hider "ping" I've missed it since gravitating over to Keymo on everything else. A brake makes more sense to me on the 12.5 with it being more abusive to the blast baffle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx7tLew2-Es View Quote AEM5 with rifle length gas just spoils me. I've become a recoil and noise snob on rifles. |
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[Last Edit: UnknownPatriot]
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: Have you had a chance to shoot yours yet? View Quote Not yet. I’m taking a day soon to practice some proper social distance. Also, just want to add that when I finally decided to stop lurking in the AEM5 threads and become an owner I called Ron Allen. He couldn’t have been nicer or more knowledgeable. I’m glad I could buy a product from such an nice and important person in this community. If you’re on the fence.... pull the trigger already. Thank you Mr Allen. |
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Another shout out to Ron being awesome.
I got the M4 collar for the AEM5 from him and it didn't fit my 12.5. Turns out my caliper is a bit off. So after calling him and discussing options he suggested I swing by a local machine shop and have them remeasure the barrel step with a micrometer. He also offered to loan me one but it would take waiting on the mail again one more time to go that route. I thought why not look into just buying one so as soon as I saw online what it looked like it the light bulb went off that I actually already had one of the damn things. I acquired it with a bunch of reloading gear I bought a while back but had forgotten about it. Ron was kind enough to give me a crash course over the phone how to use the damn thing and now we are good to go with the correct measurement. Again Ron many thanks and sorry to add to your workload some more. I do appreciate it. Really excited to get that 12.5 setup and sending some quieter rounds downrange with it. |
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Originally Posted By no_cigar: Hey guys, I have a DD 12.5 barrel going onto my BHD/Gothic Serpent Clone. I have taken the following measurements: https://i.imgur.com/RFh13Q5.jpg I have what I believe to be a standard M4 collar which fits on the step and clears the bayo lug by the width of a hair on a gnat's ass (maybe a couple sheets of paper) at most. There is daylight between the two. Am I correct in assuming that this will result in proper alignment of my AEM5? Thanks! View Quote I just got the replacement collar from Ron after providing an accurate measurement this time. Mine turned out coming close to the bayo lug as well but there's definitely a gap with no contact. I was prepared to have to shave the bayo lug back a bit if needed. As long as your inner diameter before and after the step are snug but not too loose and clear of the lug when firmly against the step you should be good to go I would think. Here's how mine turned out. Can't wait to go visit the can in jail soon and try it out on my 12.5 |
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: I just got the replacement collar from Ron after providing an accurate measurement this time. Mine turned out coming close to the bayo lug as well but there's definitely a gap with no contact. I was prepared to have to shave the bayo lug back a bit if needed. As long as your inner diameter before and after the step are snug but not too loose and clear of the lug when firmly against the step you should be good to go I would think. Here's how mine turned out. Can't wait to go visit the can in jail soon and try it out on my 12.5 https://i.imgur.com/wGuAVVrh.jpg View Quote Really nice fitment. Looking forward to receiving mine. |
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Hey guys, does anyone know if I’ll run into clearance issues using a LaRue 13.2 SAT rail and a BA OPS cut 16” w/AEM5?
Trying to get the exact 13.2 length from LaRue. If it’s exactly 13.2 inches I might be in the clear, but I’m taking a tape measure to a Holland-ish upper with a PRI forend so my methods aren’t exacty... exact. |
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Originally Posted By kirbykid25: I tired that(was a standard Larue quad rail) with a 16” compass lake spun barrel and it was like .2 from working. The aem5 would get like 3 turns and hit the rail before getting to the collar And because pics, had Ron spin me up a collar a few weeks ago for this 12.5. Ron is the man is all I can say, and so is the aem5 https://i.ibb.co/DGKL3gr/776-ACE5-D-0-E8-B-4-AA1-8-A36-5-DA9-B2902-BA5.jpg https://i.ibb.co/GxcHkL4/1-D991864-813-A-446-A-B955-028922-C38460.jpg View Quote Thanks for sharing. That is a sweet looking setup. |
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[Last Edit: Ed_Victory]
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Originally Posted By kirbykid25: I tired that(was a standard Larue quad rail) with a 16” compass lake spun barrel and it was like .2 from working. The aem5 would get like 3 turns and hit the rail before getting to the collar And because pics, had Ron spin me up a collar a few weeks ago for this 12.5. Ron is the man is all I can say, and so is the aem5 https://i.ibb.co/DGKL3gr/776-ACE5-D-0-E8-B-4-AA1-8-A36-5-DA9-B2902-BA5.jpg https://i.ibb.co/GxcHkL4/1-D991864-813-A-446-A-B955-028922-C38460.jpg View Quote Bummer, the 12” it is then! Appreciate the info and those pics, got me considering the LAT now. If I were going quad or LAT I’d be tempted to have D. Wilson or Chop Boss modify a 13.2 to fit but I think a chop job would look a bit off with the SAT. |
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Originally Posted By Ed_Victory: Bummer, the 12” it is then! Appreciate the info and those pics, got me considering the LAT now. If I were going quad or LAT I’d be tempted to have D. Wilson or Chop Boss modify a 13.2 to fit but I think a chop job would look a bit off with the SAT. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ed_Victory: Originally Posted By kirbykid25: I tired that(was a standard Larue quad rail) with a 16” compass lake spun barrel and it was like .2 from working. The aem5 would get like 3 turns and hit the rail before getting to the collar And because pics, had Ron spin me up a collar a few weeks ago for this 12.5. Ron is the man is all I can say, and so is the aem5 https://i.ibb.co/DGKL3gr/776-ACE5-D-0-E8-B-4-AA1-8-A36-5-DA9-B2902-BA5.jpg https://i.ibb.co/GxcHkL4/1-D991864-813-A-446-A-B955-028922-C38460.jpg Bummer, the 12” it is then! Appreciate the info and those pics, got me considering the LAT now. If I were going quad or LAT I’d be tempted to have D. Wilson or Chop Boss modify a 13.2 to fit but I think a chop job would look a bit off with the SAT. Or maybe do a 16.25 or 16.5 and use the 13.2? But yes 12/12.5 master race with the aem5. For reference mine is a 12.5 barrel and a 9” LAT. 9.5” rail would work but I love Larue rails. There is a member here who used a foward controls 9.5 rail/centurion arms clone clamp on rail that looks killer. He’s the one who inspired mine. This rail https://www.forwardcontrolsdesign.com/RHF4_p_217.html And I love the look of the SAT rails, but find the LATs feel better in the hand and are more useful in terms of space to put stuff. I like to put my lights a bit further back then the SAT allows..yeah shadows I know but dirty lights...ugh and with a can, no dirty lights |
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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Mounting AE30 on a M1A SOCOM
I know the SOCOM 16 is a less than ideal host for an AE30, but I have one and want to be able to mount my AE30. First step is to replace the factory gas lock and fixed muzzle device. SEI has one for $85 and Delta P Design has one for $225 (two piece). SEI: Attached File Delta P: Attached File Attached File I am leaning towards the Delta P since it moves the threads past the gas plug. I’ll probably buy this gas plug from SEI too P/N 2079, to be able to adjust gas volume. Attached File Now the real challenge, mounting the AE30. I believe what I need is one of these but for the AE30, not for the AEM’s. Attached File Has Ron made anyone an AE30 adapter like this? If not Ron, has anyone had one made somewhere else? Does anyone have any other mounting ideas? |
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^^^ man having suppressed a M1a In the past with a conventional 18oz suppressor all I can say is buy an Ar10.
IMO an M1a doesn’t suppress well... like expect a huge shift low at 100y. It’s insane. The ae30 weighs like 26oz without all the mounting hardware. Plus factor in all of the adapters you’re trying to use. It may be possible but an AR10 or a bolt gun would be much easier and probably lend to less of a POI shift. |
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
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[Last Edit: Ironmaker]
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Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot: ^^^ man having suppressed a M1a In the past with a conventional 18oz suppressor all I can say is buy an Ar10. IMO Athens M1a doesn’t suppress well... like expect a huge shift low at 100y. It’s insane. The ae30 weighs like 26oz without all the mounting hardware. Plus factor in all of the adapters you’re trying to use. It may be possible but an AR10 or a bolt gun would be much easier and probably lend to less of a POI shift. View Quote You know when someone is right and giving good advice, but you want to do what you want anyway Actually, I should just get a 300 BO upper. ETA: for about the same price as all the parts and adapters, I could get a 300 BO upper from PSA. |
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Sorry man! I finally sold both of my m1a. I still like them just harder to suppress imo.
I will say that I bet a Nomad titanium would do well. It’s like 9oz. That would probably help with the huge POI shift I always experienced. |
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Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot: ^^^ man having suppressed a M1a In the past with a conventional 18oz suppressor all I can say is buy an Ar10. IMO an M1a doesn’t suppress well... like expect a huge shift low at 100y. It’s insane. The ae30 weighs like 26oz without all the mounting hardware. Plus factor in all of the adapters you’re trying to use. It may be possible but an AR10 or a bolt gun would be much easier and probably lend to less of a POI shift. View Quote Pay attention to this person. Please. |
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[Last Edit: Rhd91integra]
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Sent you a Dm ron. " k31user "
I've tried emailing you from your webpage and this email option we have on ar15.com with no reply. I sent you a Dm and replying to your post. Thank your in advance. |
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Ugh. Got the email from Charlie Custom clones about a colt m4 collar... less than 10 min I saw it and they were gone
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Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot: Ugh. Got the email from Charlie Custom clones about a colt m4 collar... less than 10 min I saw it and they were gone /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/poof_usual_suspects-336.gif View Quote Probably the best thing to happen to you. |
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AEM5 on M4 collars need to be barrel specific. I sell collars to Potomac(Charlies) that fit a barrel that they use. That does not mean that it will properly fit any M4 barrel.
To properly fit your barrel I need to know the distance from bare muzzle to step, and the diameter before and after the step. |
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Originally Posted By no_cigar: Hey guys, I have a DD 12.5 barrel going onto my BHD/Gothic Serpent Clone. I have taken the following measurements: https://i.imgur.com/RFh13Q5.jpg I have what I believe to be a standard M4 collar which fits on the step and clears the bayo lug by the width of a hair on a gnat's ass (maybe a couple sheets of paper) at most. There is daylight between the two. Am I correct in assuming that this will result in proper alignment of my AEM5? Thanks! View Quote So I paid a conjugal visit to both my AEM5s in NFA jail to test fit and my combination will work perfectly! |
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[Last Edit: jeremywills]
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Originally Posted By k31user: AEM5 on M4 collars need to be barrel specific. I sell collars to Potomac(Charlies) that fit a barrel that they use. That does not mean that it will properly fit any M4 barrel. To properly fit your barrel I need to know the distance from bare muzzle to step, and the diameter before and after the step. View Quote And use properly functioning tools. Turns out my caliper was just a touch off. The first collar Ron made me was a no go.......... his suggestion of using a micrometer for the barrel diameter paid off and the second one he made me fits like a glove. If you have a micrometer available much better tool for getting the exact diameter forward and aft of the barrel step. |
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IG @ou7rider
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I thought it was approx 6-8 revolutions. One one of mine its about 7 and a half and on the other one its just past 8.
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Does anyone happen to have the profile specs for a 5.56 3rd model?
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