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Posted: 6/25/2020 4:05:09 PM EST
Hmm, I'm looking at some DTNVG with unfilmed WP. Is this new thing going to be in the same league?
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CAN
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Posted: 6/25/2020 5:18:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/25/2020 5:40:36 PM EST by CDN_Datawraith]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jakjakman: Hmm, I'm looking at some DTNVG with unfilmed WP. Is this new thing going to be in the same league? I highly doubt it considering they said it would be a Night Goggles Inc offering (and not a mainline TNVC offering) as well as the original reply by Sam was to a user considering an RNVG with Photonis Echo tubes (budget WP binos). DTNVG with unfilmed WP is about as high end as you can get until the DTNVS is publicly released (PVS-31, GPNVG, etc notwithstanding). I'm anticipating the release to be some sort of bino housing with gen 3 thin film tubes at a price competitive to an RNVG with Echo tubes. I'd go as far as to venture this might be the Artemis? |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 8:29:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/26/2020 9:41:38 AM EST by M4Madness]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drywall5: You go Big Daddy!!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drywall5: Originally Posted By M4Madness: I'm dropping the funds on a NV device Friday, so they'd better hurry if they want to sell me something better. Lol You go Big Daddy!!! Well, I placed the order with TNVC this morning for a filmless L3 WP PVS-14.  Day 1 
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Posted: 6/26/2020 5:11:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By chevy69002000: It better be a gen3 WP for a good price because I am currently holding off on buying the 3200 one right now and the sale ends Saturday at 12. I'm really hoping to hear something about this before then.... Same. I'm on the fence as well. JRH does an ARF discount as well, so brings it down even more...but Sam mentioned that this would be worth waiting for. I think we won't hear anything until next week, so it's a gamble. |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 5:18:35 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By CDN_Datawraith: I'd go as far as to venture this might be the Artemis? It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 5:24:19 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee Artemis? |
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CAN
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Posted: 6/26/2020 5:46:12 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee Dang. Now I really got no clue what you guys are releasing lol. Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Artemis? It's a bino housing TNVC is developing that is ball detent compatible. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2020 6:51:59 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By MattR: Same. I'm on the fence as well. JRH does an ARF discount as well, so brings it down even more...but Sam mentioned that this would be worth waiting for. I think we won't hear anything until next week, so it's a gamble. Placed my order today for the HP+ WP 14. I don't want to miss the sale and from what I can gather from the cryptic posts about what is coming down the pipe I'm not sure it is a WP 14 for cheaper than 3k. JRH gets some pretty solid praises around here and specs of past units seems to be pretty damn good. Super nice guy to talk to and a very easy process to make the order. Now I wait.... |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 7:01:31 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: Originally Posted By CDN_Datawraith: I'd go as far as to venture this might be the Artemis? It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee How? I'm not seeing a link on the web page. |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 5:53:03 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By mancow: How? I'm not seeing a link on the web page. If you’re not logged in, it should prompt you when you visit the site to sign up for the newsletter. If not, however, there’s a link at the very bottom of the page in the footer. ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 8:44:58 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By M4Madness: Well, I placed the order with TNVC this morning for a filmless L3 WP PVS-14. Day 1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4Madness: Originally Posted By drywall5: Originally Posted By M4Madness: I'm dropping the funds on a NV device Friday, so they'd better hurry if they want to sell me something better. Lol You go Big Daddy!!! Well, I placed the order with TNVC this morning for a filmless L3 WP PVS-14. Day 1 Thank you for the order! |
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USA
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Posted: 6/27/2020 9:32:06 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By CDN_Datawraith: Dang. Now I really got no clue what you guys are releasing lol. It's a bino housing TNVC is developing that is ball detent compatible. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/IMG_2507-660x495.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CDN_Datawraith: Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It's not Artemis. Artemis is coming along, but will not be ready for some time. I'd get on our e-mail list if you're not already. ~Augee Dang. Now I really got no clue what you guys are releasing lol. Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Artemis? It's a bino housing TNVC is developing that is ball detent compatible. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/IMG_2507-660x495.jpg @TNVC_Augee The Artemis looks like you could pull the pods off an RNVG and buy a bridge to be able to use a ball detent mount? Am I correct? |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 10:43:17 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: If you’re not logged in, it should prompt you when you visit the site to sign up for the newsletter. If not, however, there’s a link at the very bottom of the page in the footer. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: Originally Posted By mancow: How? I'm not seeing a link on the web page. If you’re not logged in, it should prompt you when you visit the site to sign up for the newsletter. If not, however, there’s a link at the very bottom of the page in the footer. ~Augee Thanks |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 12:13:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Caeser2001: @TNVC_Augee The Artemis looks like you could pull the pods off an RNVG and buy a bridge to be able to use a ball detent mount? Am I correct? BLUF: No. Superficially, most fixed bridge goggle systems are going to look fairly similar in terms of general layout. The Artemis will have no more in common with other existing goggle systems than they hall have with eachother insofar as you can re-use the tubes and optics, but the optical pods and their design is very different, except for, again, those components that "must" be the same across all goggles to use 18mm IITs and PVS-14 style optics. The Artemis is its own design, it's not simply a ball-detent RNVG variant. There will also be a dovetail variant of the Artemis as well. ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 12:21:00 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: BLUF: No. Superficially, most fixed bridge goggle systems are going to look fairly similar in terms of general layout. The Artemis will have no more in common with other existing goggle systems than they hall have with eachother insofar as you can re-use the tubes and optics, but the optical pods and their design is very different, except for, again, those components that "must" be the same across all goggles to use 18mm IITs and PVS-14 style optics. The Artemis is its own design, it's not simply a ball-detent RNVG variant. There will also be a dovetail variant of the Artemis as well. ~Augee Thus why Patents have been filed. |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 12:33:19 PM EST
@TNVC
@TNVC_Augee Looking forward to more teasers/info and a launch date. |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 2:05:21 PM EST
How is the price on those going to be compared to the other bino systems on the market?
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Posted: 6/29/2020 11:44:01 AM EST
Wake me up when something happens. I'm interested but until something drops I'm gonna go look at everyone's setup's and be jealous.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 8:25:14 AM EST
Well most 4th of july sales are announced the last working day before the 4th.
we are waiting |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 8:50:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By IAm4: Well most 4th of july sales are announced the last working day before the 4th. we are waiting  It will be announced on the third. The first place you’ll hear will be via the newsletter as well as our social media. And of course, naturally, there will be a post here. #soon ~Augee |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 9:16:51 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/Teaser_Graphic-7-1484937.jpg It will be announced on the third. The first place you’ll hear will be via the newsletter as well as our social media. And of course, naturally, there will be a post here. #soon ~Augee Soooooo, I was thinking about paying a majority of the L3 thin-filmed 14s down and financing a small portion... I’ll wait to see what tomorrow brings. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 9:23:43 AM EST
When you say the 3rd that's in zulu time right?!
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 12:23:04 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/Teaser_Graphic-7-1484937.jpg It will be announced on the third. The first place you’ll hear will be via the newsletter as well as our social media. And of course, naturally, there will be a post here. #soon ~Augee Fyi - your website is super hard to read the text in the signup info. White text on light grey background. |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 12:31:35 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By dblazevich: Fyi - your website is super hard to read the text in the signup info. White text on light grey background. Hm. Shows up fine on my computer(s)/screens. Might have to do with your screen settings? Either way we'll have the web developers take a look. ~Augee |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 2:39:46 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: Hm. Shows up fine on my computer(s)/screens. Might have to do with your screen settings? Either way we'll have the web developers take a look. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: Originally Posted By dblazevich: Fyi - your website is super hard to read the text in the signup info. White text on light grey background. Hm. Shows up fine on my computer(s)/screens. Might have to do with your screen settings? Either way we'll have the web developers take a look. ~Augee It’s almost impossible to tell on an iPhone. |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:24:57 PM EST
I fuckin knew it. You sneaky bastards
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:38:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/2/2020 11:39:07 PM EST by will-1]
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:42:40 PM EST
So whats the new offering? Just a sale?
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:43:53 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By will-1: They can't link it so here it is. Amazing pricing. Holy cow.... TNVC INDEPENDENCE DAY SALE 2020 Web guys are working on the NGI site as we speak. Units also on the TNVC site if some want to travel a short distance. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:47:01 PM EST
I assume they are coming with spec sheets?
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:47:22 PM EST
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:47:53 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By IAm4: I assume they are coming with spec sheets? assumption correct, factory Elbit spec sheets |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:49:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By IAm4: I assume they are coming with spec sheets? Of course!  Happy 4th of July all!  TNVC/NGI Declare Your Independence From Darkness |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:53:29 PM EST
I ALMOST regret my unfilmed RNVG’s I’m waiting for from you guys, but not quite
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:53:41 PM EST
All I can say is that is an amazing price.
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Posted: 7/2/2020 11:58:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By will-1: They can't link it so here it is. Amazing pricing. Holy cow.... TNVC INDEPENDENCE DAY SALE 2020 I would be very surprised if you could find someone to beat that price. Especially for a new unit with a warranty. I have several xlsh tubes that are 2500 + fom |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2020 12:26:14 AM EST
Thanks for the marriage troubles.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 12:40:47 AM EST
I’m a dummy. What’s drive the difference between the 2 dual tube models? One is fixed and the tubes move? New to dual tube:bino setups but this might be time to pop on them
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Posted: 7/3/2020 12:41:09 AM EST
Is this the big announcement that we have been waiting for?
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Posted: 7/3/2020 1:07:09 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Gopherboy128: Is this the big announcement that we have been waiting for? DUDE...this is a big deal. These are the same high spec Elbit WP tubes that we've seen on the forum priced below Photonis Echos. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 1:10:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By stretch415: I’m a dummy. What’s drive the difference between the 2 dual tube models? One is fixed and the tubes move? New to dual tube:bino setups but this might be time to pop on them Yes, fixed bridge versus articulating are the main distinction between the NGI/RNVG-XLS and the NGI/DTNVG-XLS. The fixed bridge system does not, however, mean that they can’t be adjusted, only that the bridge is fixed in place, allowing you to make horizontal interpupillary distance (IPD) adjustments on a single plane using a worm dial on either side of the bridge. Articulating goggle designs are adjusted for IPD by means of rotating the optical pod around a hinge, meaning that you are adjust on two axes (horizontal and vertical) as you adjust for IPD. It mostly comes down to personal preference between the two. ~Augee |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 1:11:20 AM EST
So what’s the big difference between the mil and commercial spec tubes then? I’m very much a NV a noob and have a couple orders I’m waiting on regardless.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 2:28:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/3/2020 2:37:57 AM EST by shelbysguns]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By will-1: DUDE...this is a big deal. These are the same high spec Elbit WP tubes that we've seen on the forum priced below Photonis Echos. They could be. I believe theres a wide range of specs than can fall into that class of tubes. The minimums are a bit scary but assuming the tubes run more in line with the xlsh ive seen theyll out perform that by a good bit. Would suck to be the guy who ended up with the 1400fom omni V level stinker but someone has to buy it. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:29:00 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By shelbysguns: They could be. I believe theres a wide range of specs than can fall into that class of tubes. The minimums are a bit scary but assuming the tubes run more in line with the xlsh ive seen theyll out perform that by a good bit. Would suck to be the guy who ended up with the 1400fom omni V level stinker but someone has to buy it. This is true and they can’t all be ringers. Based on the IG livestream they are XLSH’s (@silentsolutions). There’s video through the tube in there too and they said that the majority were very good. I say it’s a big deal because the jump from a gen 3 WP mono to a gen 3 WP bino just got a hell of a lot smaller, which is huge for guys who were priced out of binos. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:41:33 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TNVC: Cancel it!  Glad that I did! Now the proud owner of a Gen 3 WP Monocular. WOOT!! Wizard Eye! |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:51:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/3/2020 6:05:39 AM EST by Honda4828]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: They could be. I believe theres a wide range of specs than can fall into that class of tubes. The minimums are a bit scary but assuming the tubes run more in line with the xlsh ive seen theyll out perform that by a good bit. Would suck to be the guy who ended up with the 1400fom omni V level stinker but someone has to buy it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Originally Posted By will-1: DUDE...this is a big deal. These are the same high spec Elbit WP tubes that we've seen on the forum priced below Photonis Echos. They could be. I believe theres a wide range of specs than can fall into that class of tubes. The minimums are a bit scary but assuming the tubes run more in line with the xlsh ive seen theyll out perform that by a good bit. Would suck to be the guy who ended up with the 1400fom omni V level stinker but someone has to buy it. That would be me I’m sure lol What time do the phone lines open I’m ready to call ? @TNVC |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:51:25 AM EST
Picked up a 14 to try out some afocal astronomy. Thanks for offering such a great value option!
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:25:24 AM EST
This is really impressive. Anxious to see specs as they're released. I just received my Gen3 GP PVS14 from TNVC and if I had to redo it, I may have waited a little longer to get those XLS RNVGs. Those prices are very impressive!
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:30:44 AM EST
 Holy shit this price is amazing! |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:36:13 AM EST
So what is new tier order of quality?
-Gen3 Filmless -Gen3 High Spec Thin Film -Gen3 XLS Thin Film??? -Gen2+Photonis Echos -Gen3 Low Spec Thin Film Would you rate these above Photonis Gen2+ Echos tubes? If so, that will be huge, especially at the price range! |
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