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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:15:00 PM EDT
Bullpupforum has a thread started by Pete Athens asking for input on factory SBR STG77 Commando guns with a 14" barrel. Only 150 units, and really only 150 units.
I spoke with him today and it's definitely a likely possibility. Austria is going to be the final word on it though. One thing I found odd is that Austria does not want to sell standalone 13.8" barrels, in fact Austria is hesitant to even sell the complete Commando guns... If you're interested in these, like I am, make your voice known. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:44:48 PM EDT
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Oh hell yeah!
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Posted: 8/17/2018 9:44:14 PM EDT
[#2]
They will be SBRs though... and in my opinion the reason why they will not come to fruition due to lack of demand.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 10:10:43 PM EDT
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I can certainly appreciate that they are willing to do this, but I know I'm not all that interested in the Commando.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 1:44:32 AM EDT
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No interest in buying another AUG just for the barrel +$200.
Would be interested in just the barrel. |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 2:37:33 AM EDT
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I'm interested in the barrel alone and I am willing to sbr mines.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 3:24:45 PM EDT
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I'm in - and if it's through Pete, I'd put $down if needed.
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Posted: 8/19/2018 1:43:06 AM EDT
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No interest in buying another AUG just for the barrel +$200. Would be interested in just the barrel. 
But not really for 2 inches less and $200 tax. Just a barrel? Maybe Of course are these A1 housings or m1 housings? Really not interested in one with an m1 receiver |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 2:33:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm always interested in another AUG.
But not really for 2 inches less and $200 tax. Just a barrel? Maybe Of course are these A1 housings or m1 housings? Really not interested in one with an m1 receiver |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 1:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be surprised if it isn't an M1 housing, them doing an A1 housing would likely make it even more pricey. If they were willing to do A1 housings, the STG77 would've been the one they test out if it was a viable marketing option. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 4:47:30 PM EDT
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Would it be a 14.5" barrel with a pinned flash hider to get it to 16"?
The Commando version also has a fixed vfg, so you don't accidentally shoot your fingers off |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 6:48:15 PM EDT
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Would it be a 14.5" barrel with a pinned flash hider to get it to 16"? The Commando version also has a fixed vfg, so you don't accidentally shoot your fingers off |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 10:10:55 PM EDT
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No interest from me. I just don't see the logic in spending an extra $200 over the cost of the rifle, then wait six to eight months, and be limited where I can take it, when with a push and a twist, I can pull any barrel out of an AUG and be even more compact.
Plus, I get to "pull a Karl" when I take it out of the bag. 
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Posted: 8/21/2018 4:21:18 PM EDT
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It seems like the smart business decision would be to offer just barrels so people can put in the SBR paperwork and wait while they continue to use their full length barrels.
Factory SBR just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, especially on a gun that has a QD barrel. I really don't get the logic on this one....but European gun companies don't always seem to "get" the best marketing/business practices in the U.S and vice versa... Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 6:14:49 PM EDT
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It might be interesting if it came threaded 1/2x28 so I could mount a can on it and have a super short suppressed package. But I'd be surprised if they did.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 9:27:03 PM EDT
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Will this be an FN or Austrian bbl?
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Posted: 8/21/2018 10:58:42 PM EDT
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Austrian barrel finished by steyr in Alabama. FN doesn't make barrels for steyr anymore.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 11:25:29 PM EDT
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Austrian barrel finished by steyr in Alabama. FN doesn't make barrels for steyr anymore. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:56:55 AM EDT
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It seems like the smart business decision would be to offer just barrels so people can put in the SBR paperwork and wait while they continue to use their full length barrels. Factory SBR just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, especially on a gun that has a QD barrel. I really don't get the logic on this one....but European gun companies don't always seem to "get" the best marketing/business practices in the U.S and vice versa... Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 2:55:55 PM EDT
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Austrian barrel finished by steyr in Alabama. FN doesn't make barrels for steyr anymore. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:53:30 PM EDT
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Quoted:
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Austrian barrel finished by steyr in Alabama. FN doesn't make barrels for steyr anymore. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 11:44:30 PM EDT
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I’m curious about this too. I noticed the chrome lining going from clean and uniform to sloppy for lack of a better way to describe it. 
I didn't know this either. The FN AUG barrels are spectacular. Very accurate. If the new barrels are lower quality - then I'm out. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:12:53 AM EDT
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I don't think they have actually started production yet, but the machinery has been transferred from FN to Steyr and there have been exchanges of personnel between Austria and the US. I'm under the impression that current inventory is still FN stock. Don't know for sure, but can find out.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:29:07 AM EDT
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I didn't know this either. The FN AUG barrels are spectacular. Very accurate. If the new barrels are lower quality - then I'm out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I’m curious about this too. I noticed the chrome lining going from clean and uniform to sloppy for lack of a better way to describe it.
I didn't know this either. The FN AUG barrels are spectacular. Very accurate. If the new barrels are lower quality - then I'm out. 2016 bbl 
2017 bbl 
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:33:12 AM EDT
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I don’t know when the switch was made I just know the barrel from my 2016 and before AUGs had a much more uniform CL than my 2017 bbl or even my 2018 bbl. They are still just as accurate as before but the chrome is not as centered around the crown. Honestly it seems to be entirely aesthetic but it still bugs me. IDK if these are Steyr or FN bbls. 2016 bbl https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/950x900q90/923/byk35f.jpg 2017 bbl https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/950x900q90/922/3D9X0y.jpg |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:46:22 AM EDT
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Those are all FN. What I'm referring to is extremely recent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don’t know when the switch was made I just know the barrel from my 2016 and before AUGs had a much more uniform CL than my 2017 bbl or even my 2018 bbl. They are still just as accurate as before but the chrome is not as centered around the crown. Honestly it seems to be entirely aesthetic but it still bugs me. IDK if these are Steyr or FN bbls. 2016 bbl https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/950x900q90/923/byk35f.jpg 2017 bbl https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/950x900q90/922/3D9X0y.jpg |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:56:10 AM EDT
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I'll send you a pic of a barrel I have. I'm too embarrassed to post it publicly. The chrome is horrendous looking on the face of the barrel. Chamber and rifling is exceptional, but the exterior visible chrome looks like shite. That was a 2013 barrel. I think the monkeys at FN can make some really great barrels, but they've also produced mountains of turd barrels. I recall a particular time when something like 100+ barrels we're rejected. They ended up in a big pile to get chucked.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:02:49 AM EDT
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I'll send you a pic of a barrel I have. I'm too embarrassed to post it publicly. The chrome is horrendous looking on the face of the barrel. Chamber and rifling is exceptional, but the exterior visible chrome looks like shite. That was a 2013 barrel. I think the monkeys at FN can make some really great barrels, but they've also produced mountains of turd barrels. I recall a particular time when something like 100+ barrels we're rejected. They ended up in a big pile to get chucked. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 2:27:57 PM EDT
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When did this start? What versions does this apply to? The machinery is set up, personnel are ready, and Austrian hammer forged barrel blanks are in Alabama ready to be finished. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 2:37:16 PM EDT
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Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns.
Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 3:44:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Official word is that they are still using up FN stock. The machinery is set up, personnel are ready, and Austrian hammer forged barrel blanks are in Alabama ready to be finished. I have a 1:7 that shoots horribly that's going back soon and it would be great if I could get an Austrian replacement |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 3:55:48 PM EDT
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Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 4:08:16 PM EDT
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For sale where? Are these fixed optics or like the stg77? |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 4:27:26 PM EDT
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If rather an LSW configured AUG with a 20” or 16” barrel included as a package.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 12:49:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:28:05 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm VERY ignorant when it comes to the AUG.
What difference would there be between a factory 14" barrel with fixed FG and a cut down 16" barrel with a pinned FH for a OAL of 26.1"? |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:49:57 PM EDT
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I'm VERY ignorant when it comes to the AUG. What difference would there be between a factory 14" barrel with fixed FG and a cut down 16" barrel with a pinned FH for a OAL of 26.1"? (Please don’t ask how I know)
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Posted: 9/1/2018 4:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the cut down barrel won't run! (Please don't ask how I know) |
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Posted: 9/11/2018 3:27:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 9/11/2018 10:31:59 PM EDT
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Just ordered one of these. temptation was too much Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 8:14:07 PM EDT
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Where can you order them from?? |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 8:25:24 PM EDT
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No interest in buying another AUG just for the barrel +$200. Would be interested in just the barrel. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 9:12:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:A sub-16" 1:7" barrel with a pinned muzzle brake/flash hider I might be game. 
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:21:26 PM EDT
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I would much rather have a new, factory heavy barrel with an authentic AUG bipod.
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Posted: 9/15/2018 8:15:44 PM EDT
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Something else an AUG nerd might find interesting is that a batch of US made castings were recently rejected from the source, leading to Steyr Mannlicher sending over a small amount of Austrian "SWD" castings to hold over steyr USA. These are A1/A2 type castings not seen in the USA for ~25 years. They're just now available for sale as complete guns. Click To View Spoiler
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Posted: 9/15/2018 11:17:02 PM EDT
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Pete posted on the Bullpup Forum that the STG77 14” Commando is DOA.
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Posted: 9/16/2018 10:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
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Posted: 9/16/2018 3:05:01 PM EDT
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Pete posted on the Bullpup Forum that the STG77 14” Commando is DOA. The number of people that will buy a factory SBR, tiny. The number of people that will buy a Steyr AUG, tiny. The number of people that will buy a factory Steyr SBR...Maleante. 
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Posted: 9/16/2018 8:11:30 PM EDT
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Well, yeah, the numbers just don't add up. The number of people that will buy a factory SBR, tiny. The number of people that will buy a Steyr AUG, tiny. The number of people that will buy a factory Steyr SBR...Maleante. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pete posted on the Bullpup Forum that the STG77 14” Commando is DOA. The number of people that will buy a factory SBR, tiny. The number of people that will buy a Steyr AUG, tiny. The number of people that will buy a factory Steyr SBR...Maleante. |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 6:23:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:..... although I’d rather just have the barrel |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 8:45:52 AM EDT
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As would almost EVERYONE else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:..... although I’d rather just have the barrel I expect Steyr's worried about perceived liability of selling <16" barrels since there's almost no way for a Steyr owner (who'd generally be lacking an SOT or approved Form 1) to take possession of one without being in constructive possession of an unlicensed SBR. Given that, just sell them pinned and welded - ideally with choice of common muzzle devices for those who'd rather not have to immediately send the barrels away for a swap. |
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