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Posted: 12/11/2018 1:45:09 PM EDT
With NFA becoming so main stream over the past 10 years and accessible/ easy to buy now with SS, why are we not seeing a influx in new AOW manufactures?
Seems like currently the market is primed and ready for AOWs. A lot of guys I know all have SBRs SBS or Silencers seems like a cool gadget range toy AOW would be a easy sale with them. They have the stamps on other items and know the process. To me seems like a $5 stamp on a range toy would be a easy transition for them. This is coming from someone who just bought his first AOW a month ago a 7" Mossberg 500. Where are the Sub $600 Flashlight guns, Stingers, Cane guns etc....? I WANT MORE!!!!! |
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I want a threaded flashlight gun. So i can thread on a tiny can like the itty bitty or a pill bottle.
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I agree! I do not want a cane/umbrella gun or a 5" shotgun. But you bet your ass if it was a new product from mossberg and came over on a $5 stamp I could click and buy in my underpants through Silencer Shop I would certainly have a bunch.
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i've always wanted an affordable pen gun, threaded would be nice. who ever goes to SHOT Show, find us a manufacturer... plz!
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Flashlight gun would have the most practicality to me.
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An umbrella gun would be the bee’s knees. But the ultimate AOW in my eyes is the double barrel 12 or 20 gauge. Side x side or over/under, I don’t care. I even found a source for new old stock virgin SxS receivers, but the cost on a finished unit would be over $3500 each. Not marketable.
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Originally Posted By lucky_13:
An umbrella gun would be the bee’s knees. But the ultimate AOW in my eyes is the double barrel 12 or 20 gauge. Side x side or over/under, I don’t care. I even found a source for new old stock virgin SxS receivers, but the cost on a finished unit would be over $3500 each. Not marketable. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By lucky_13:
An umbrella gun would be the bee’s knees. But the ultimate AOW in my eyes is the double barrel 12 or 20 gauge. Side x side or over/under, I don’t care. I even found a source for new old stock virgin SxS receivers, but the cost on a finished unit would be over $3500 each. Not marketable. View Quote https://www.charlesdaly.com/p.php?id=529 |
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Originally Posted By lucky_13:
An umbrella gun would be the bee’s knees. But the ultimate AOW in my eyes is the double barrel 12 or 20 gauge. Side x side or over/under, I don’t care. I even found a source for new old stock virgin SxS receivers, but the cost on a finished unit would be over $3500 each. Not marketable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lucky_13:
An umbrella gun would be the bee’s knees. But the ultimate AOW in my eyes is the double barrel 12 or 20 gauge. Side x side or over/under, I don’t care. I even found a source for new old stock virgin SxS receivers, but the cost on a finished unit would be over $3500 each. Not marketable. Originally Posted By AASG:
Not a stripped receiver, but a break action that could be an AOW. What's the point of making an AOW your self though when it costs as much as a SBS? https://www.charlesdaly.com/p.php?id=529 ETA: how do you make the actual image show up instead of just the link? |
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Originally Posted By drkg: I have an American-made 12ga O/U AOW. Kind of a long story about how it even came to be, so I don’t think there’ll be another one. I only bought it because it was probably the only chance I’d ever have. It mostly just sits in the safe being an odd-ball. http://i.imgur.com/8Pc6Um2.jpg The advantage is that an AOW is not subject to all the same transport restrictions as an SBS. If you never intend to put a shoulder stock on it, AOW is the way to go. ETA: how do you make the actual image show up instead of just the link? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By drkg: I have an American-made 12ga O/U AOW. Kind of a long story about how it even came to be, so I don’t think there’ll be another one. I only bought it because it was probably the only chance I’d ever have. It mostly just sits in the safe being an odd-ball. http://i.imgur.com/8Pc6Um2.jpg The advantage is that an AOW is not subject to all the same transport restrictions as an SBS. If you never intend to put a shoulder stock on it, AOW is the way to go. ETA: how do you make the actual image show up instead of just the link? View Quote Attached File |
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Just saw a guy in a FB group gauging interest for an 80% pengun. Its 22LR, but I haven't heard if it's threaded or not. I'll see what the cost will be.
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Cool, wonder what all has to go into finishing one out?
Kinda stinks that you would have to pay the $200 tax vs the $5 tho. |
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[Last Edit: swampfoxoutdoors]
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Seen this posted on TFB.
GSL is going to be getting some money from me. 380acp Link to Video Video of it Firing Attached File |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Seen this posted on TFB. GSL is going to be getting some money from me. 380acp Link to Video Video of it Firing https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/Untitled_jpg-821218.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Seen this posted on TFB. GSL is going to be getting some money from me. 380acp Link to Video Video of it Firing https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/Untitled_jpg-821218.JPG View Quote Any update on if these are in production yet? |
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I haven’t seen anything beside cotton branch firearms making pen guns some of which are internally suppressed. Pretty expensive for what they are.
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A buddy has one of the 80s pen guns
it is really hard not to sweep the room with the muzzle |
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"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the boogaloo, whose face is marred by pixels and ink and cheetos.”,
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
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RIP Jeff Reed. Tennessee Squire, Ga. Carry member, NRA,Non-puking 72 ounce drinker 2 of 6 Norcal call sign, Forgotten.
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Originally Posted By drkg: I have an American-made 12ga O/U AOW. Kind of a long story about how it even came to be, so I don’t think there’ll be another one. I only bought it because it was probably the only chance I’d ever have. It mostly just sits in the safe being an odd-ball. http://i.imgur.com/8Pc6Um2.jpg The advantage is that an AOW is not subject to all the same transport restrictions as an SBS. If you never intend to put a shoulder stock on it, AOW is the way to go. ETA: how do you make the actual image show up instead of just the link? View Quote Saweeet! |
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: I, too, have a one off 12ga o/u AOW. Like yours, mine involves a long story and will always be a one-of-kind. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/242045/20190109_102948_jpg-801558.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Originally Posted By drkg: I have an American-made 12ga O/U AOW. Kind of a long story about how it even came to be, so I don’t think there’ll be another one. I only bought it because it was probably the only chance I’d ever have. It mostly just sits in the safe being an odd-ball. http://i.imgur.com/8Pc6Um2.jpg The advantage is that an AOW is not subject to all the same transport restrictions as an SBS. If you never intend to put a shoulder stock on it, AOW is the way to go. ETA: how do you make the actual image show up instead of just the link? I, too, have a one off 12ga o/u AOW. Like yours, mine involves a long story and will always be a one-of-kind. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/242045/20190109_102948_jpg-801558.JPG There is one O/U Beretta AOW out there. It’s another “long story” gun. I kick myself for not buying it over a decade ago when I had the chance. |
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Tag; always had a sort spot for the gadget gun AOW. For now the only red stamp I have is a super shorty.
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Back during the assault weapons ban I had an AK pistol with a vertical fore grip, it was registered as an AOW.
One manufacturers way around the `salt pistol ban! |
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Originally Posted By scottMO: Just bought my first AOW, red stamp onthe way... Mossberg 7.5” model 51697https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2158/38BEE06D-E3DC-48AA-9326-53180AAA70CD_jpe-2077952.JPG View Quote Those are fun. I have the same one and its just plain fun to have at the range. Light loads preferred of course : ) They run with an Ops Sol Ver 2 adapter with minis well, but still don't gain much capcity I think 4 rounds totalwith minis - was considering changing the follower to see if that could be upped one more round to 5 total with mini shells. |
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I have one from cotton branch. I got it in titanium with an integrally suppressed barrel as well as regular one and some other customization. Quality is outstanding. Best part is company owner working with you to customize it and not posting those photos on instagram so you can actually have a unique one nobody has seen in the wild.
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Originally Posted By recompiler: I have one from cotton branch. I got it in titanium with an integrally suppressed barrel as well as regular one and some other customization. Quality is outstanding. Best part is company owner working with you to customize it and not posting those photos on instagram so you can actually have a unique one nobody has seen in the wild. View Quote Do we not get to see it either? I’m emailing him about a SBS |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
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i would buy some new aows if they made new ones
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Originally Posted By weapons_free: i would buy some new aows if they made new ones View Quote I think it's actually a pretty good unrealized niche market. If someone could get a pile of barreled actions brought in from someone like Stoeger it would be a good base. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I think it's actually a pretty good unrealized niche market. If someone could get a pile of barreled actions brought in from someone like Stoeger it would be a good base. View Quote X2 Some mass produce the air gauge, pen or flashlight guns and have them sub $500 they would sale fast. At least in my mind they would. |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: X2 Some mass produce the air gauge, pen or flashlight guns and have them sub $500 they would sale fast. At least in my mind they would. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I think it's actually a pretty good unrealized niche market. If someone could get a pile of barreled actions brought in from someone like Stoeger it would be a good base. X2 Some mass produce the air gauge, pen or flashlight guns and have them sub $500 they would sale fast. At least in my mind they would. +1 |
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[Last Edit: BradN]
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Originally Posted By Donut777donut: +1 View Quote I made this for a customer out of an Altor pistol. CF outer tube, aluminum inner and end cap, titanium trigger button and threaded the barrel. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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FWIW, I emailed Mossberg a few weeks ago and they told me the Compact Cruiser AOW wasn't discontinued, they just hadn't done a run of them in a while, but I should keep a lookout. Definitely planning on getting the 7.5" one (and then SBS'ing it, maybe).
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Originally Posted By erwos: FWIW, I emailed Mossberg a few weeks ago and they told me the Compact Cruiser AOW wasn't discontinued, they just hadn't done a run of them in a while, but I should keep a lookout. Definitely planning on getting the 7.5" one (and then SBS'ing it, maybe). View Quote That doesn’t surprise me they probably do tiny runs of them. |
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
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On and off, I’ve considered an O/U combo gun.
Only AOW which can have a stock. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I think it's actually a pretty good unrealized niche market. If someone could get a pile of barreled actions brought in from someone like Stoeger it would be a good base. View Quote I thought the same. But it’s been tried before. The ATF blocked the import of the barreled actions from Stoeger (might be mistaken there). That’s what sent me down the road of finding or making or having made domestic receivers. But at the cost of manufacture, there is no market. |
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Originally Posted By sidpost: Form 1 cost of making is $200. Cost of buying one a Form 4 is $5. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sidpost: Originally Posted By DirtyHandsRob: I'm hoping the 80% parts will cost less than $150....so a sub-$400 AOW. Is that possible or a dream? Form 1 cost of making is $200. Cost of buying one a Form 4 is $5. 150+200=350 which is less than 400 right? That post was from four years ago btw. |
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
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Originally Posted By doc_Zox: I want a 12 gauge minishell revolver https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/988BB06B-6F6D-4C97-9AD3-159151457045-1724002.jpg View Quote It'd be stupid and useless, but I'd buy something like that if the price is right. |
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