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Posted: 11/17/2021 12:20:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Has anyone seen pics of the new extended 16650 battery cap that @kirsh is speaking of in other forums? Apparently Bering is testing the release to 1 US dealer as a soft release. I’m curious if it’s the same cap I requested he suggest that Bering offer on the Super Yoter when it was in the t&e phase or if there is another animal loose on the market. When you gave me all those tips about my Yoter-C in the other thread, I went looking for the 16650 cap that you said Europeans could get.... and I found this U.S. Site in IL: 16650 Cap |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 1:28:09 PM EDT
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Cool
Admittedly I’ve been focusing on using the Iray and HaloX so my market knowledge on this optic body series has taken a back burner Thanks man Interesting that it’s not the same as the euro cap. I can’t picture how the locking tabs are working with that one but it’s worth a shot. The price jarred me at first but it’s not awful considering the Samsung cells and charger included. I hate to say it but this is probably a Rico Alpha killer combined with the Super yoter at the current price and adding this capability. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 1:50:38 PM EDT
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Yea, the price hit me too. I'm pretty sure I'm going with a USB pack, but may grab one just to have. I use 16650s in my MH25 when handheld. I was originally going to grey market import an iRay XClip CH50 v2 - since it was designed for higher base mag day optics, but the Yoter-C was just getting praised like a mf'er by guys who know waaaaay more than my almost zero thermal experience, LOL! And, uh, a warranty is nice to, hahahahahahaha!
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Posted: 11/19/2021 10:35:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The price jarred me at first... Hey, I just ordered it - they have just the cap for $55. DNO Cap Only |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 11:20:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey made it easy to spend money didn't they. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 11:23:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They made it easy to spend money didn't they. They do. Before that, I ordered an Anker 5K Battery holder (only) from another company....then I saw DNO had a complete kit, *including a battery* (not Anker though) - for about the same price as just the first holder! So I got that too, LOL! Two is One, One is None  I've already got four 16650s from Illumn.com for my MH25, so just got the cap. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 12:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They do. Before that, I ordered an Anker 5K Battery holder (only) from another company....then I saw DNO had a complete kit, *including a battery* (not Anker though) - for about the same price as just the first holder! So I got that too, LOL! Two is One, One is None I've already got four 16650s from Illumn.com for my MH25, so just got the cap. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They made it easy to spend money didn't they. They do. Before that, I ordered an Anker 5K Battery holder (only) from another company....then I saw DNO had a complete kit, *including a battery* (not Anker though) - for about the same price as just the first holder! So I got that too, LOL! Two is One, One is None I've already got four 16650s from Illumn.com for my MH25, so just got the cap. Are you using flat top 16650 bats in your mh25? I’m using the capped 16650 Keeppower bats in mine but this Bering battery extender only accepts flat tops. I’m going to have to backorder a few because I can’t find any brands I trust in stock anywhere. Everything available is capped/“protected” |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 1:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you using flat top 16650 bats in your mh25? I’m using the capped 16650 Keeppower bats in mine but this Bering battery extender only accepts flat tops. I’m going to have to backorder a few because I can’t find any brands I trust in stock anywhere. Everything available is capped/“protected” Ah crap - nope, button top on the MH25. 16650 KeepPower 2500mAh Sanyo UR16650ZTA 4.20V Protected Button Top. I had to get Flat 18650s for the Jerry-C. Let me know what ones you found, please - I'll B.O. too. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:12:24 AM EDT
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@dzhitshard - the bracket on the bottom of the cap, is to hold the stock cap, apparently. Wish we had Bluetooth, LOL. Manuals at the bottom, in case your Yoter-C didn't come with one (mine didn't). Should be close enough for general operation.
Iray Clip CH50 Manuals |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah crap - nope, button top on the MH25. 16650 KeepPower 2500mAh Sanyo UR16650ZTA 4.20V Protected Button Top. I had to get Flat 18650s for the Jerry-C. Let me know what ones you found, please - I'll B.O. too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are you using flat top 16650 bats in your mh25? I’m using the capped 16650 Keeppower bats in mine but this Bering battery extender only accepts flat tops. I’m going to have to backorder a few because I can’t find any brands I trust in stock anywhere. Everything available is capped/“protected” Ah crap - nope, button top on the MH25. 16650 KeepPower 2500mAh Sanyo UR16650ZTA 4.20V Protected Button Top. I had to get Flat 18650s for the Jerry-C. Let me know what ones you found, please - I'll B.O. too. Im not directing anyone to a non paying vendor but you may want to go back to your source you got your cap from. There are uncapped 16650s in stock now. I also found protected uncapped 16650 batteries from state side sources for under $25 shipped on eBay. IMO, you won't need protected batteries if you watch your charger, use a multimeter to check voltage & keep it under 4.2vdc off the charger and somewhere around 2.8vdc discharge. . . which is coincidentally the cut off voltage for the R35 units. 2.6vdc and lower can be problematic for some cells. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 11:28:30 AM EDT
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@mickdonaldson
@dzhitshard How are y'all liking the extenders now that you got some time with them? I missed the first round, but looks like that certain vendor has them up for pre-order now. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 11:55:50 AM EDT
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It's a loaner optic for me so I've only got about 4 hours with it but no trouble yet.
The batteries the vendor shipped are button cap protected cells but are 200mAh lower rated than the non protected cells that were available. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 12:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @mickdonaldson @dzhitshard How are y'all liking the extenders now that you got some time with them? I missed the first round, but looks like that certain vendor has them up for pre-order now. I decided to go USB (Nitecore Waterproof 5K & 10K) 24/7 - haven't even tried the cap yet - have it as backup. |
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Posted: 12/26/2021 3:08:21 PM EDT
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I carry my rifle slung across my chest when not shouldered. I generally don't like things protruding much from the left side. Do you think this will be an issue? I am currently using a usb battery with an angled connector and worry about damage from snagging the cable.
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Posted: 12/27/2021 8:51:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I carry my rifle slung across my chest when not shouldered. I generally don't like things protruding much from the left side. Do you think this will be an issue? I am currently using a usb battery with an angled connector and worry about damage from snagging the cable. I've got the Yoter Clip-On, so it's way out front - one of the regular Yoter/Hogster guys will have to answer. My USB cable is magnetic. I also bought some water resistant Multicam Cordura fabric on Amazon (~$15?), and might make a "wrap" that goes around the battery. Velcro and Shoe-Goo should do it...might even get fancy and use some elastic. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 9:35:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got the Yoter Clip-On, so it's way out front - one of the regular Yoter/Hogster guys will have to answer. My USB cable is magnetic. I also bought some water resistant Multicam Cordura fabric on Amazon (~$15?), and might make a "wrap" that goes around the battery. Velcro and Shoe-Goo should do it...might even get fancy and use some elastic. How do you like so far? What are you running it in front of? |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 11:17:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you like so far? What are you running it in front of? I don't hunt, so it's more of a "better to have and not need" type of thing. My range on my property is only 50 yds, so it's zeroed - but being Winter up North, I have yet to stretch it out with live rounds. I do have giant ass farm fields that I've taken to for dry practice. It'll work for my purpose - the view at 4x (my base mag) was absolutely fine - and I think I cranked it up to ~8/10 and was still pleased. My dial goes to 16, but it was Cold AF and I didn't linger too long. I'm also a 'Thermal on Gun' newb, so what do I know. Somebody on here (maybe you?) posted a link to a thread on SH that pretty much sold me on it with all the praise... the posts from JStokes' ELCAN at 6x were the deciding factor for me. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 11:55:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hunt, so it's more of a "better to have and not need" type of thing. Same. My setup is heavily biased for short range and it seems like the easy button for long range. I've been really impressed with it's ability to burn through fog/rain/snow so far. I've found for high magnification I get a better image staying in the 6-8 on the optic and bumping the digital zoom. I believe this will effect drops though but I haven't shot it that far yet. My only let down so far is it's not great with my acog. Was hoping to run that on a carbine but it's hard to keep the reticle from going fuzzy. Might try out the PA micro if they ever release since it has a diopter. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 12:09:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I carry my rifle slung across my chest when not shouldered. I generally don't like things protruding much from the left side. Do you think this will be an issue? I am currently using a usb battery with an angled connector and worry about damage from snagging the cable. It makes no difference when you're carrying slung and hands on. IMO, IF you're hands off slung you should be quick flipping the gun optic oriented down to the ground and hooking the sling on the mag locking it in ejection port side toward your body to keep it from flopping around anyway. It takes no more time to present from that position than any other. The exposed cap wouldn't be a hinderance to me if I was carrying it regularly outside of work. I already make special handling allowances for a variety of hard to replace cables, tape switch connections and ridiculously expensive optics I bought with my own $$. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 11:27:06 AM EDT
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Thanks for the feedback. External powerbank as been working well for me so far, but it's always nice to have more options.
Quoted: I carry my rifle slung across my chest when not shouldered. I generally don't like things protruding much from the left side. Do you think this will be an issue? I am currently using a usb battery with an angled connector and worry about damage from snagging the cable. Was worried about the same thing so here's the solution I came up with. Tucks all of the wires nice and out of the way. Still need to make a cover of some sorts to keep moisture out of the port area though.  
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:17:03 PM EDT
[#21]
That is exceptionally clean work. I had something similar but a little less refined until I fell down the rabbit hole of trying to record some with my Hogster R35.
Now I have to find someone to make me a similar angled USBC to RCA for the DVR. I pass it around a lot and I worry about someone making a mistake with the straight connector and damaging the female jack in the optic. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 7:12:06 PM EDT
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How did you build that? Are the components easily acquired?
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Posted: 12/28/2021 8:29:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Thanks for the compliment.
Cable was super easy to make. Mostly used leftover stuff from some custom keyboard cables I built awhile back. What I used: -USB Cable -Gutted paracord around the cable -1/8" TechFlex sleeve around the paracord -Gold USB "A" male connector -Flat right angle USB "C" adapter from HERE -Various heat shrinks Cable supplies came from CruzCtrl Cables but you can probably find them on Amazon as well. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 9:44:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Thank you. I'll order the connectors and see what I can do. I think I'll like this option best.
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Posted: 1/5/2022 11:27:15 AM EDT
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I got a solid 5 nights under that extended cap and batteries now in a scanner roll and a handful of hours of it mounted on a loaner rifle.
The 1800mAh reduced capacity protected cell Batteries lasted longer than I did on the longest night.. 6.5 hours in 18-25f with a biting wind and I powered it down with all my gear before heading for home with it still being in the green. *****These cells are a few mm shorter than Keeppower 16650s and that explains the 300mAh reduced capacity. The Keeppower DO NOT FIT with the cap.**** 250+ miles or rolling around in the consul, a lot of walk in traveling with it stuffed in a coat pocket or in a bag with a predator call. zero cap disconnecting issues. I've come to really appreciate the tether attachment point for the factory cap even though I've never lost it. Very positive locking every time, and Ease of use with gloves and all that jazz. Using it in my Hogster R35 has once again pissed me off and made me question my sanity in repeatedly buying high dollar 640 optics. This accessory earns the seal of approval. |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 11:31:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the compliment. Cable was super easy to make. Mostly used leftover stuff from some custom keyboard cables I built awhile back. What I used: -USB Cable -Gutted paracord around the cable -1/8" TechFlex sleeve around the paracord -Gold USB "A" male connector -Flat right angle USB "C" adapter from HERE -Various heat shrinks Cable supplies came from CruzCtrl Cables but you can probably find them on Amazon as well. Do you have any idea where one would look for that type of flat right angle USB "C" adapter with data lead in addition to the 2 power? |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 8:38:26 PM EDT
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Appreciate the update on the extended cap. Went ahead and got one ordered.
As far as the cable, I 've never seen a 4 wire setup for the specific end I bought. It definitely could be out there, as these ends exist. That may be what's under the one I bought but I didn't cut it apart to see. Closest I found is this Aliexpress item. No idea on quality, but it's not exactly a complicated part either. |
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Posted: 1/6/2022 8:41:53 AM EDT
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Good report on the cap, thx.
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Posted: 1/6/2022 1:25:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Appreciate the update on the extended cap. Went ahead and got one ordered. As far as the cable, I 've never seen a 4 wire setup for the specific end I bought. It definitely could be out there, as these ends exist. That may be what's under the one I bought but I didn't cut it apart to see. Closest I found is this Aliexpress item. No idea on quality, but it's not exactly a complicated part either. Thanks. With the help of your link I was able to figure out the correct search terms and I found what I was looking for on Amazing and got it on the way. |
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Posted: 1/8/2022 3:27:57 PM EDT
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Ordered the kit. Company rep was very helpful and knowledgeable. Thanks to this thread I did not even know this existed.
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Posted: 1/9/2022 4:37:06 AM EDT
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And it survived a fool falling down a 5' snow drift with it in his coat pocket tonight. Another 5+ hour solid run and a REMARKABLE image from the Hogster in 98% -100% humidity in sub freezing temps.
That Hogster reminds me of the little dude from the Mike Tyson Punchout game. It just keeps clobbering other optics. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:14:44 PM EDT
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Bumping this to see if anyone running this has found a source for quality batteries. I did buy it and a couple sets I just don't trust the batteries themselves. It came with Vapce 2000mAh m20 INR6650 7.2Wh 3.7V. When i googled them they are pretty cheap crap from what I can tell. They work for now I just want some solid replacements. Thanks in advance if anybody can chime in.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:16:56 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if that cap will stop the Hogster from shutting off when the weapon is fired? Would be worth the $$$ if it does.
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Posted: 1/21/2022 12:37:12 AM EDT
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I have never had that happen. I would contact bering. I think it has a 5 year warranty. The extended cap uses similar snaps to lock in as the stock cover so should be about the same contact. I am a lefty so it's not in my way at all when slung. That does suck that yours is losing contact. Also still looking for some quality batteries.
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Posted: 1/21/2022 1:18:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone know if that cap will stop the Hogster from shutting off when the weapon is fired? Would be worth the $$$ if it does. To answer your question, switching to the extenders can help because they use a different style of side clamps to connect to the battery compartment. Also, most 16650 batteries don't have the plastic lip I am talking about on the CR123s. This has been discussed before and people seem to want to jump down my throat whenever this is brought up, but rechargeable, internal batteries used in Bering thermals, are "Use at your own risk." This comes directly from Bering as it is listed in their documentation. My recommendation would be to use a battery pack (without a magnetic connection) and your shutting off issues should be a thing of the past. |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 1:22:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never had that happen. I would contact bering. I think it has a 5 year warranty. The extended cap uses similar snaps to lock in as the stock cover so should be about the same contact. I am a lefty so it's not in my way at all when slung. That does suck that yours is losing contact. Also still looking for some quality batteries. Although all 16650s "Are use at your own risk", protected 16650s are safer to use in any device vs unprotected (flat topped) just as a general rule. |
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Posted: 1/21/2022 9:54:56 PM EDT
[#37]
Thanks for all the info. So does anyone have a source for high quality protected 16650s?
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:29:05 AM EDT
[#38]
I use these in an MH25 when handheld. No idea on use in Thermals - this sh&t still confuses me even after dzhitishard explained it
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Posted: 1/22/2022 12:28:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use these in an MH25 when handheld. No idea on use in Thermals - this sh&t still confuses me even after dzhitishard explained it Ilumn.com |
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