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Posted: 3/17/2020 9:07:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2020 9:08:52 PM EDT by RotorWash109]
Always wanted one and finally received it today. Ordered last week from buds. $1650

Looks like the tulip muzzle device too. I initially thought this was chrome but just dug up some pics of the nitrided barrels and I’m not sure now.

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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 9:08:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 9:11:51 PM EDT
Beautiful, you will love it.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 9:36:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j97531:
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I cannot wait to shoot it. Trigger really isn’t the worst thing ever like I was led to believe.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 9:50:07 PM EDT
Newb AUG question. What is this threading on the barrel for?

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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:00:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RotorWash109:
Newb AUG question. What is this threading on the barrel for?

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5.56 - bayonet lug
9mm - flash hider, muzzle brake, or suppressor
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:01:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:
5.56 - bayonet lug
9mm - flash hider, muzzle brake, or suppressor
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Yeah, what he said.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:01:50 PM EDT
You're going to love it.  Don't worry about the chrome vs. nitrided thing.  I have a nitrided barrel and got multiple sub-MOA 3-shot groups with it.  It's also a genuine Steyr barrel, and Steyr makes absolutely amazing barrels.  It is a great shooter.  Mine has quickly become my favorite semi-auto rifle and it's a huge attention getter at the range.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:03:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2020 10:03:22 PM EDT by maleante]
The rings around the check nut and FH (and also on the barrel) denote 1/2x28 threaded barrels. Looks like you have a nitrided barrel. There's probably not many chrome lined old stock guns floating around anymore.

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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:
The rings around the check nut and FH (and also on the barrel) denote 1/2x28 threaded barrels. Looks like you have a nitrided barrel. There's probably not many chrome lined old stock guns floating around anymore.

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Thanks. I am definitely glad I didn’t get a standard A2 flashhider.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:06:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zeebz:
You're going to love it.  Don't worry about the chrome vs. nitrided thing.  I have a nitrided barrel and got multiple sub-MOA 3-shot groups with it.  It's also a genuine Steyr barrel, and Steyr makes absolutely amazing barrels.  It is a great shooter.  Mine has quickly become my favorite semi-auto rifle and it's a huge attention getter at the range.
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Great to hear.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:07:55 PM EDT
Congrats!  get out there and shoot it.

After you have shot it a bit, give Corvus Defensio a look to see some nice aftermarket upgrades - they help the gun, but the gun does not absolutely need them to be fantastic.

Quick Tip:  When inserting a mag, don't insert and "tap" the mag - with AUG mags, you might pop a round out and cause a malfunction.  All you need to do is insert and a quick tug to make sure it is seated and she is ready to roll.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 10:22:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2020 10:23:46 PM EDT by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By RotorWash109:

Thanks. I am definitely glad I didn’t get a standard A2 flashhider.
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The comment about the flash hider denoting the type of barrel is wrong if that’s what your referencing just as a FYI. Barrel looks nitrated to me but need a more in focused picture to tell
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 11:12:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
The comment about the flash hider denoting the type of barrel is wrong if that’s what your referencing just as a FYI. Barrel looks nitrated to me but need a more in focused picture to tell
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
Originally Posted By RotorWash109:

Thanks. I am definitely glad I didn’t get a standard A2 flashhider.
The comment about the flash hider denoting the type of barrel is wrong if that’s what your referencing just as a FYI. Barrel looks nitrated to me but need a more in focused picture to tell
Just referring to the classic aug flash hider vs an A2 which is what I was expecting.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 11:30:39 PM EDT
Well done OP.  I really enjoy my AUG.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 12:01:09 AM EDT
Looks like they may have listened about people not liking the A2 FH on the AUG.  Good!  Looks good, OP!
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 12:03:06 AM EDT
If only they'd listen to us about high-quality chrome lining.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 11:34:41 AM EDT
Exactly what I want. I've almost FOd like three times in the last week.
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
If only they'd listen to us about high-quality chrome lining.
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It is maybe the quickest change barrel system there is and at 1600 you can spend that extra coin on a barrel you like, if you find one
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 1:51:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
It is maybe the quickest change barrel system there is and at 1600 you can spend that extra coin on a barrel you like, if you find one
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I did while they were readily available.

Production moving forward is another concern, and it'll really affect whether I buy more products from Steyr.

It's a little slower than changing my M60 barrel.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 2:59:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho:
Exactly what I want. I've almost FOd like three times in the last week.
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Same here. I want the non NATO and I wanted it green.

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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
I did while they were readily available.

Production moving forward is another concern, and it'll really affect whether I buy more products from Steyr.

It's a little slower than changing my M60 barrel.
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Can you fill me in on this?
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I really want one...
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I will say even though it’s a new firearm I’m surprised how stiff the charging system is. It definitely needs to be shot and run hard for a bit.
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
The comment about the flash hider denoting the type of barrel is wrong if that’s what your referencing just as a FYI. Barrel looks nitrated to me but need a more in focused picture to tell
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
Originally Posted By RotorWash109:
Thanks. I am definitely glad I didn’t get a standard A2 flashhider.
The comment about the flash hider denoting the type of barrel is wrong if that’s what your referencing just as a FYI. Barrel looks nitrated to me but need a more in focused picture to tell
I'm not sure what you mean. My comment isn't incorrect as my information is direct from Steyr's gunsmith...

Steyr never made 1/2x28 in chrome, only nitride. Those barrels were given a "ring" near the threads to denote the change to a US thread pattern. See first picture below. Steyr's mistake of using the A2 FH has been remedied with the tulip style FH and check nut, which now has a similar ring to denote that they're 1/2x28. See the second picture below from the OP.

Logically, if an AUG barrel is 1/2x28 it is nitrided. Likewise if you have a new production gun it will be nitride because Steyr's not chrome lining the AUG barrels any longer.

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Link Posted: 3/18/2020 5:51:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RotorWash109:
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Steyr is no longer offering chrome-lined AUG barrels to the US market, apparently.

The most recent chrome-lined barrels they previously offered were of poor quality.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 6:00:00 PM EDT
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Easy way to find out if it is chrome or nitrided is to call the manufacturer.  They will know by serial number exactly how the rifle was made.  It sounds like you already did that.
Link Posted: 3/19/2020 12:15:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:

I'm not sure what you mean. My comment isn't incorrect as my information is direct from Steyr's gunsmith...

Steyr never made 1/2x28 in chrome, only nitride. Those barrels were given a "ring" near the threads to denote the change to a US thread pattern. See first picture below. Steyr's mistake of using the A2 FH has been remedied with the tulip style FH and check nut, which now has a similar ring to denote that they're 1/2x28. See the second picture below from the OP.

Logically, if an AUG barrel is 1/2x28 it is nitrided. Likewise if you have a new production gun it will be nitride because Steyr's not chrome lining the AUG barrels any longer.

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Not sure what you said but I’m referencing the the if it’s a tulip flashhider it’s chrome and if it’s A2 abomination it’s nitrated. Keep seeing this said in multiple forums and above some where here is looked like they were saying it’s tulip so must be chrome, although what your saying may be where it was misconstrued from as in telephone and changed from that to flashhider to type rather than thread
Link Posted: 3/19/2020 4:03:46 PM EDT
I sent Steyr an inquiry about their anniversary AUGs concerning the barrels being chrome lined or nitrided. They replied that the newer AUGs were all nitrided, even the newer anniversary models.
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Originally Posted By Genin:
Easy way to find out if it is chrome or nitrided is to call the manufacturer.  They will know by serial number exactly how the rifle was made.  It sounds like you already did that.
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Actually there has been discrepancies with contacting Steyr over this particular issue especially in the transitional period. Usually you can tell by Just looking.

Look for the chrome ring on the back.


Nitrided (small polished ring)


Chrome Lined (large chrome ring)
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:

Not sure what you said but I’m referencing the the if it’s a tulip flashhider it’s chrome and if it’s A2 abomination it’s nitrated. Keep seeing this said in multiple forums and above some where here is looked like they were saying it’s tulip so must be chrome, although what your saying may be where it was misconstrued from as in telephone and changed from that to flashhider to type rather than thread
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Makes sense. Steyr should have just not done nitrided barrels except as a replacement 1/2x28 1/7 option. That would make sense so of course Steyr wouldn't ever do that.
Link Posted: 3/19/2020 6:40:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattra:
I sent Steyr an inquiry about their anniversary AUGs concerning the barrels being chrome lined or nitrided. They replied that the newer AUGs were all nitrided, even the newer anniversary models.
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Yuck.

But those anniversary AUGs were/are half-assed "A1s" anyways.
Link Posted: 3/19/2020 9:53:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:

Makes sense. Steyr should have just not done nitrided barrels except as a replacement 1/2x28 1/7 option. That would make sense so of course Steyr wouldn't ever do that.
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Steyr doesn’t seem to even meet the demand there is let alone support it much at all. Been looking for a l9A2 for awhile now. Really like my A1
Link Posted: 3/20/2020 2:40:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Genin:
Easy way to find out if it is chrome or nitrided is to call the manufacturer.  They will know by serial number exactly how the rifle was made.  It sounds like you already did that.
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Actually, they don't.  I bought one around December of 2018 which was before the whole switch over from chrome lined to nitriding announced.  When i called, I was told the barrel should be chrome lined but they couldn't be sure even with the serial number.  I sent picture and was told that it was chrome lined.  Later found out here when comparing it to known nitrided barrels it wasn't.  The rifle was manufactured November 2018 and had a ntirided barrel whcih was before Steyr announced the switch over and was still adverting the barrels as chrome lined on the website.  Either Steyr was being blatantly dishonest about it all or they didn't know what the heck is going on, which is just as bad.  The rifle got sold for something else but I do miss my AUG which was why I started the thread wondering how the nitrided barrels are holding up.
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Originally Posted By maleante:

Makes sense. Steyr should have just not done nitrided barrels except as a replacement 1/2x28 1/7 option. That would make sense so of course Steyr wouldn't ever do that.
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that would have been the best option. the way i understood it, they took over the barrel manufacturing from FN because of QC issues with them. if Steyr doesn't have the ability to chrome line in-house, I still say that they should contract out that portion of the job to someone like Daniel Defense or Criterion. the default configuration should be with the Euro threading and tulip fh, with the 1/2x28 threaded barrels as an option
Link Posted: 3/21/2020 3:47:47 PM EDT
Although the weather here has been garbage I had to take the AUG out yesterday. In short......I love this thing.

Different manual of arms and recoil for sure but it was very manageable. My plan was to sight it in but I did do a bit of running and shooting drills with it. I sighted it in with a red dot and a PA 2.5x I had sitting around. I think I liked the red dot better as it fit the cqb style of the gun, quick point and shooting.

Not one failure. I put 250 rounds of wolf gold through it and some wolf steel case just to see if I’d run it. Ran great and ejected everything in a nice little pile about a mile away.

I didn’t take my time to get tiny little groups and the only rest I had was an old pelican case. Needless to say it shot just fine.

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Put a red dot I threw together in a lower 1/3 adm mount. Grouped absolutely dead on and I never touched the adjustments. That rarely if ever happens but it was awesome!

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This was kinda disappointing. Before I’d even shot it the paint had chipped off the corner. I’m not one for having a perfect looking gun, but I guess I’d rather make a mark from actual use versus sitting in a case.

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Link Posted: 3/22/2020 11:51:28 AM EDT
I don't even see the chip.  

Glad to see she's runnin' good!   I absolutely love my AUG.  

At first, I never thought I would like the cross bolt safety but there was something I noticed.  Assuming you are right handed, when the gun is slung over your back, the gun has the tendency to always keep the safety ON when it is bouncing on your back or dragging over your gear.

I was one of those luck guys whose safety on his M16 (regardless of which M16 I was carrying or when ) always liked to try to make its way to the fire position.  I was FOREVER checking that and I still do, even on the AUG...but it's nice to know there is some little friendly anecdote to the AUG design.

Here is how I think of the AUG:  take an M14 gas system, apply it to an AR-18, flip the AR-18 guide rods around and use one as the operating rod and the other as the charging handle extension.  Omit the cam pin track in the receiver and replace it with the much shorter and easier to implement cam guide shield around the bolt and you have an AUG.

It's a BRILLIANT gun.  I run a 20 inch barrel yet my AUG with a 20 inch barrel is 1/2 inch shorter than a CAR-15 with the stock collapsed.  


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Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I don't even see the chip.  

Glad to see she's runnin' good!   I absolutely love my AUG.  

At first, I never thought I would like the cross bolt safety but there was something I noticed.  Assuming you are right handed, when the gun is slung over your back, the gun has the tendency to always keep the safety ON when it is bouncing on your back or dragging over your gear.

I was one of those luck guys whose safety on his M16 (regardless of which M16 I was carrying or when ) always liked to try to make its way to the fire position.  I was FOREVER checking that and I still do, even on the AUG...but it's nice to know there is some little friendly anecdote to the AUG design.

Here is how I think of the AUG:  take an M14 gas system, apply it to an AR-18, flip the AR-18 guide rods around and use one as the operating rod and the other as the charging handle extension.  Omit the cam pin track in the receiver and replace it with the much shorter and easier to implement cam guide shield around the bolt and you have an AUG.

It's a BRILLIANT gun.  I run a 20 inch barrel yet my AUG with a 20 inch barrel is 1/2 inch shorter than a CAR-15 with the stock collapsed.  


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Thanks!

I don’t mind the crossbolt safety at all. The sling point up front is.... odd. I’m going to try and use it for awhile as I’m sure it’s just because it different from what I’m used to.

Great breakdown of the aug op system. I have a lot to learn with it, and am so far very happy it’s living up to all the greatness I had it in my mind,

Went ahead and ordered 5 more of the used mags from apex. That will bring me up to 10. I think I’m going to put the dot back on it for the time being. It keeps it nice and light. Any options for optics share them please!

Next I’d like to get a light on her. The side pic mount seems like I’d only work well with a pressure pad.
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that would have been the best option. the way i understood it, they took over the barrel manufacturing from FN because of QC issues with them. if Steyr doesn't have the ability to chrome line in-house, I still say that they should contract out that portion of the job to someone like Daniel Defense or Criterion. the default configuration should be with the Euro threading and tulip fh, with the 1/2x28 threaded barrels as an option
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Originally Posted By maleante:

Makes sense. Steyr should have just not done nitrided barrels except as a replacement 1/2x28 1/7 option. That would make sense so of course Steyr wouldn't ever do that.

that would have been the best option. the way i understood it, they took over the barrel manufacturing from FN because of QC issues with them. if Steyr doesn't have the ability to chrome line in-house, I still say that they should contract out that portion of the job to someone like Daniel Defense or Criterion. the default configuration should be with the Euro threading and tulip fh, with the 1/2x28 threaded barrels as an option

I’d LOVE a daniel defense 1/7 AUG barrel!

We can dream i guess...

Link Posted: 3/25/2020 5:12:22 PM EDT
Figured I'd pull the trigger today, but the good deals are sold out. Should've bought it two weeks ago when I decided I wanted one.
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho:
Figured I'd pull the trigger today, but the good deals are sold out. Should've bought it two weeks ago when I decided I wanted one.
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1628 shipped still in stock at BDU and they have white too! Both NATO and AUG styles. Mud in aug, black in NATO all in stock too

Edit: Atlantic has some still in stock and Atlantic is awesome to deal with. Actually where I got my mud aug from
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:

1628 shipped still in stock at BDU and they have white too! Both NATO and AUG styles. Mud in aug, black in NATO all in stock too

Edit: Atlantic has some still in stock and Atlantic is awesome to deal with. Actually where I got my mud aug from
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BDU was the first place I checked! They've got mud, grey, and white, but I really really want OD green.

kinda tempted to just get mud
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I mean green is the cats ass.... mud isn’t bad though.
Link Posted: 3/26/2020 8:40:16 AM EDT
I hate you guys... I’m so jealous..
Was planning to pick up my late 90s A1 early this month but due to the beerflu I’m not allowed to leave home...
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Originally Posted By Frens:
I hate you guys... I’m so jealous..
Was planning to pick up my late 90s A1 early this month but due to the beerflu I’m not allowed to leave home...
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It will be waiting for you! Also at least you will get one. I have a feeling these will be sold out for quite some time, especially as production is beginning to get effected now.

I’ll shoot a few rounds for you today Frens.
Link Posted: 3/26/2020 12:01:49 PM EDT
Yeah plus steyr seems to go dry for awhile and I don’t know that I have seen them for 1600 before, maybe they have but I didn’t see it. Plus get a white one and make a Star Wars storm trooper gun!
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