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Posted: 11/14/2022 1:27:29 PM EDT
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Just ordered an AP5 for $1099. This will be my first hk mp5 clone and I don't know too much about them. What braces are good to go and preferred?
I really like look of the KAC rail, but it seems that they are discontinued. Also, what spare parts are good to keep on hand? |
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Posted: 11/14/2022 3:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just ordered an AP5 for $1099. This will be my first hk mp5 clone and I don't know too much about them. What braces are good to go and preferred? I really like look of the KAC rail, but it seems that they are discontinued. Also, what spare parts are good to keep on hand? I ran the SB Tactical brace prior to my SBR approval. Than I retro fitted a B&T side folding stock to the adapter (stock available at Arms Unlimited). Buy the extra spare parts kit from Atlantic. One of my extractors wasn’t holding the round very securely, and it wasn’t a spring issue. And although the gun worked fairly well, I had a loose case not ejecting now and than. I replaced the extractor with the one from that kit. Seems to hold the round tighter, but I still need to go shoot it. And I tell everyone to spend the extra $10 and buy factory HK mags (Lanbo’s). And break in the gun with quality hotter ammo. |
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Posted: 11/14/2022 4:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ran the SB Tactical brace prior to my SBR approval. Than I retro fitted a B&T side folding stock to the adapter (stock available at Arms Unlimited). Buy the extra spare parts kit from Atlantic. One of my extractors wasn’t holding the round very securely, and it wasn’t a spring issue. And although the gun worked fairly well, I had a loose case not ejecting now and than. I replaced the extractor with the one from that kit. Seems to hold the round tighter, but I still need to go shoot it. And I tell everyone to spend the extra $10 and buy factory HK mags (Lanbo’s). And break in the gun with quality hotter ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just ordered an AP5 for $1099. This will be my first hk mp5 clone and I don't know too much about them. What braces are good to go and preferred? I really like look of the KAC rail, but it seems that they are discontinued. Also, what spare parts are good to keep on hand? I ran the SB Tactical brace prior to my SBR approval. Than I retro fitted a B&T side folding stock to the adapter (stock available at Arms Unlimited). Buy the extra spare parts kit from Atlantic. One of my extractors wasn’t holding the round very securely, and it wasn’t a spring issue. And although the gun worked fairly well, I had a loose case not ejecting now and than. I replaced the extractor with the one from that kit. Seems to hold the round tighter, but I still need to go shoot it. And I tell everyone to spend the extra $10 and buy factory HK mags (Lanbo’s). And break in the gun with quality hotter ammo. Thanks for the heads up on the parts kit. I'll go through this thread again and see what others have to say about spare parts, etc. I was thinking about the sig folding brace using the 1913 rail. |
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Posted: 11/14/2022 9:26:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2022 10:40:31 AM EDT
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These are priced pretty good with those that stock them. Everyone is hovering $1150ish for base models. Any chance of Black Friday price blowouts?
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Posted: 11/19/2022 11:10:56 AM EDT
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Just got my AP5P from Atlantic. Will break it in this weekend. Looking forward to SBRing it.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:34:23 AM EDT
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AP5 M add to cart price $999
AP5 P add to cart price $1059 AP5 add to cart price $1099 https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-ap5-m-pistol-HG6036A-N |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:56:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AP5 M add to cart price $999 AP5 P add to cart price $1059 AP5 add to cart price $1099 https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-ap5-m-pistol-HG6036A-N Trying to resist adding a fullsize... |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:06:44 AM EDT
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Got my rebate the other day!
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:07:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trying to resist adding a fullsize... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AP5 M add to cart price $999 AP5 P add to cart price $1059 AP5 add to cart price $1099 https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-ap5-m-pistol-HG6036A-N Trying to resist adding a fullsize... There's no reason anyone shouldn't fo with prices like these. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:01:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no reason anyone shouldn't fo with prices like these. Words of Wisdom! |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AP5 M add to cart price $999 AP5 P add to cart price $1059 AP5 add to cart price $1099 https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-ap5-m-pistol-HG6036A-N Got 2 coming! Could've gotten a 3rd one but I adulted, lol. Salad days for these. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Salad days for these. Yep. After getting rid of my full size Omega and Zenith MKE import, selling all my mags, & "getting out of the MP5 Platform". I've now got 5 of the AP5 series. 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 5:59:11 PM EDT
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Dammit. I don't need another...
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:29:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Damnit.
Tv died, i had a few beers before costco....  Now we decided furniture time. I have to be a husband, but that M is still calling my name! |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 8:51:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2022 11:15:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2022 2:33:58 PM EDT
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PSA has the ap5-m on sale for 899 with coupon.
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Posted: 12/1/2022 2:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA has the ap5-m on sale for 899 with coupon. Cart Subtotal$1,199.99 Discount (AP5)-$300.00 Shipping (estimate) UPS / USPS - Shipping$17.00 Order Total$916.99 |
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Posted: 12/1/2022 2:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA has the ap5-m on sale for 899 with coupon.  Lowest price I've seen. If I didn't already have two M's, I'd be all over that. |
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Posted: 12/1/2022 3:02:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/2/2022 1:26:39 PM EDT
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Full size AP5 at Palmetto for $1016.19 shipped! Plus tax.
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Posted: 12/2/2022 2:47:01 PM EDT
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What coupon? I’m seeing 1299
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Posted: 12/2/2022 3:01:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What coupon? I'm seeing 1299  |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 9:15:11 PM EDT
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AP5 M $899 - ($917 shipped) with code AP5
In stock at the time of this post. https://palmettostatearmory.com/century-ap5-m-9mm-pistol-4-5-30rd-black-hg6036a-n.html  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 10:15:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AP5 M $899 - ($917 shipped) with code AP5 In stock at the time of this post. https://palmettostatearmory.com/century-ap5-m-9mm-pistol-4-5-30rd-black-hg6036a-n.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/79930/0E4EC50B-A8C7-482E-85B8-EB2003481F57_png-2626427.JPG Yes, too good to pass up and now I have one inbound. I paid almost twice this for my Zenith MKEs (K and RS) years ago. Those are SBR'd; I think I will keep this one a pistol. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, too good to pass up and now I have one inbound. I paid almost twice this for my Zenith MKEs (K and RS) years ago. Those are SBR'd; I think I will keep this one a pistol. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:36:14 AM EDT
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I went AOW with one of my M's. The push/pull/sling tension works fairly well, and you can take AOW's to most States without ATF approval. If the brace goes away, this might be my new travel companion.
 
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:45:29 AM EDT
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With these prices, I might get another M so I can LARP Akimbo style, lol!
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:37:10 AM EDT
[#30]
Just ordered an 8.9” AP5 with brace from Family Firearms. I’ve wanted an MP5 clone for a long time and couldn’t pass at these prices.
I’m a lefty so the plan is to get a Navy SEF lower with ambi safety. Then hopefully I can track down two difficult to find items, a KAC RAS, and an A3 stock. I’m on the notification list with Atlantic for an MKE A3 stock, hopefully I can snag one. I’m going to run a couple hundred through it as a pistol and then send off the form 1. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:20:20 PM EDT
[#31]
I have an extra navy sef lower for a k.
It's really my main reason for thinking i need the m to complete my "reference collection" Lol |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:58:09 PM EDT
[#32]
The full size AP5 is back in stock again at Palmetto for $1071 with shipping & taxes included.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a lefty so the plan is to get a Navy SEF lower with ambi safety. The actual HK style navy ambi safety will not work unless you also swap out your trigger pack and get a pictogram type trigger housing. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:33:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just make sure you get an aftermarket "SEF" type ambi safety, an inexpensive option is the Magpul one. The actual HK style navy ambi safety will not work unless you also swap out your trigger pack and get a pictogram type trigger housing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm a lefty so the plan is to get a Navy SEF lower with ambi safety. The actual HK style navy ambi safety will not work unless you also swap out your trigger pack and get a pictogram type trigger housing. Yep, this is whole new learning experience from me. I researched quite a bit after I realized there are different style trigger housings. Ended up ordering an SEF Navy style “like new condition” housing and Magpul ambi safety from HK Parts. Next up will be figuring out 922r, something I haven’t dealt with in the NFA world yet. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, this is whole new learning experience from me. I researched quite a bit after I realized there are different style trigger housings. Ended up ordering an SEF Navy style "like new condition" housing and Magpul ambi safety from HK Parts. Next up will be figuring out 922r, something I haven't dealt with in the NFA world yet. charging handle trigger box trigger sear hammer magazine (3 parts potentially) stock grip those are the options to pick from. If you get a franklin armory binary trigger you take care of 4 parts right out the gate. US handguards are cheap for OG looks. Charging handle is cheap too. ...that being said my US handguard has no markings identifying it as US made. BPP is the manufacturer |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 6:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: handguard charging handle trigger box trigger sear hammer magazine (3 parts potentially) stock grip those are the options to pick from. If you get a franklin armory binary trigger you take care of 4 parts right out the gate. US handguards are cheap for OG looks. Charging handle is cheap too. ...that being said my US handguard has no markings identifying it as US made. BPP is the manufacturer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, this is whole new learning experience from me. I researched quite a bit after I realized there are different style trigger housings. Ended up ordering an SEF Navy style "like new condition" housing and Magpul ambi safety from HK Parts. Next up will be figuring out 922r, something I haven't dealt with in the NFA world yet. charging handle trigger box trigger sear hammer magazine (3 parts potentially) stock grip those are the options to pick from. If you get a franklin armory binary trigger you take care of 4 parts right out the gate. US handguards are cheap for OG looks. Charging handle is cheap too. ...that being said my US handguard has no markings identifying it as US made. BPP is the manufacturer I was thinking trigger pack, charging handle, and hand guard. I didn’t realize how expensive the trigger packs were. It’s not much more to just buy the Franklin Armory binary trigger. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 6:41:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking trigger pack, charging handle, and hand guard. I didn’t realize how expensive the trigger packs were. It’s not much more to just buy the Franklin Armory binary trigger. That’s the route I go. Franklin or Heckfire. Timney is available now, but you’ll need a safety. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 8:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking trigger pack, charging handle, and hand guard. I didn't realize how expensive the trigger packs were. It's not much more to just buy the Franklin Armory binary trigger. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:26:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it's shocking. I'm looking at F1ing mine and trying to decide which parts to use. Already have a US HG and grip, probably will do an aftermarket trigger next. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was thinking trigger pack, charging handle, and hand guard. I didn't realize how expensive the trigger packs were. It's not much more to just buy the Franklin Armory binary trigger. That seems to be the best option. I want to be able to use an imported stock, hoping to grab an MKE A3 when they come back in stock. Also want to use HK and MKE mags . |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 2:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: handguard charging handle trigger box trigger sear hammer magazine (3 parts potentially) stock grip those are the options to pick from. If you get a franklin armory binary trigger you take care of 4 parts right out the gate. US handguards are cheap for OG looks. Charging handle is cheap too. ...that being said my US handguard has no markings identifying it as US made. BPP is the manufacturer How many do I have to switch out? I already replaced the handguard and I'm looking at getting either a Timney or Franklin trigger. How many more do I need to switch for 922r? |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many do I have to switch out? I already replaced the handguard and I'm looking at getting either a Timney or Franklin trigger. How many more do I need to switch for 922r? ETA this is the full list of parts on an MP5 that could be changed. 16 parts, and a max of 10 can be foreign made, so that's why you need to have 6 of them be US made. Obviously some of these like the trunnion or barrel are non-starters for most. Receiver Barrel Trunion Bolt Bolt Carrier Cocking Handle Trigger Box Trigger Hammer Sear Buttstock Pistol Grip module Forearm / Handguard Magazine Housing Magazine Follower Magazine Floorplate |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 11:44:28 PM EDT
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So, in order to F1 one of these, (6) of those parts need to be U.S. Made?
This doesn’t apply when it’s a Pistol, correct? |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:09:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, in order to F1 one of these, (6) of those parts need to be U.S. Made? This doesn’t apply when it’s a Pistol, correct? Correct. 922r dictates you can’t make a Rifle with more than 10 foreign parts. If you Form 1 (SBR) a foreign made pistol, per the ATF, you are requesting to manufacture a rifle. The good thing about starting with a pistol, once approved, you can convert it back to a pistol if you want. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:28:50 AM EDT
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Perfect, thank you!
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Posted: 12/10/2022 1:41:29 AM EDT
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Couldn't pass up the sale at PSA and went with the AP5. Hopefully not a drawn out process to receive with all the sales as I would like to Form1 this and work on getting a suppressor at the same time.
Is the Magpul lower compatible? I was looking at that and the Ambi safety but also like the SEF lowers and seem to be relatively straight forward to modify to fit. What are some of the favorites when it comes to mounts and hand guards? |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 8:47:37 AM EDT
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I'm also ordering an AP5. I know these lowers are out there, compatible with AR grips and triggers.
https://leesporting.com/ |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 9:17:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't pass up the sale at PSA and went with the AP5. Hopefully not a drawn out process to receive with all the sales as I would like to Form1 this and work on getting a suppressor at the same time. Is the Magpul lower compatible? I was looking at that and the Ambi safety but also like the SEF lowers and seem to be relatively straight forward to modify to fit. What are some of the favorites when it comes to mounts and hand guards? The MFI ultra low top rail is popular for being low profile, but is only sold at HK Parts and goes out of stock a lot. Midwest makes a decent one too. Midwest makes the best mlok handguard IMO. For a classic look, US made wide tropical handguards are cheap and easy to get. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 11:07:40 AM EDT
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PSA won’t ship to Colorado. Any suggestions on the best approach to get one?
So far my search at LGS hasn’t turned up any. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 11:15:27 AM EDT
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What model AP5 are you looking for ? We ship to them to CO all of the time.
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Posted: 12/10/2022 11:18:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA won't ship to Colorado. Any suggestions on the best approach to get one? So far my search at LGS hasn't turned up any. |
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