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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:38:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Safelife is chinesium that you see youtube ads for.
Go with the blue alpha. /thread |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:47:19 PM EDT
[#2]
I have and use the Raze. It’s great to CC light to medium load outs . Throw a jacket on and it just disappears. Perfect for a urban environment where you don’t want to draw attention
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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:56:54 PM EDT
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I am super happy with my rdr gear belts
https://rdrgear.com/products/rdr-instructor-enhanced-belts |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 2:34:23 PM EDT
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Blue Alpha Gear. Pay the extra $10 to upgrade the inner belt. Love mine. Use the inner belt for my everyday carry. It’s great too.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 3:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have and use the Raze. It’s great to CC light to medium load outs . Throw a jacket on and it just disappears. Perfect for a urban environment where you don’t want to draw attention Quote HistoryQuoted: I have and use the Raze. It’s great to CC light to medium load outs . Throw a jacket on and it just disappears. Perfect for a urban environment where you don’t want to draw attention Quoted: Safelife is chinesium that you see youtube ads for. Quoted: Go with the blue alpha. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 4:39:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Another vote to avoid the Safelife.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 4:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's kind of what I'm looking for. I don't want anything to hold a full combat load. Just a holster, couple of pistol and rifle mags pouches and maybe a foldable dump pouch but something that could be concealed with a jacket. That is kind of what I expected, hence why I asked. So what makes Blue Alpha so much better then the rest? Better quality, affordable and a lot of members here have experience with them. I don't personally, just what I know of the choices you listed. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 5:49:23 PM EDT
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Cobra buckle system
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:40:03 PM EDT
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Foolish question but the Blue Alpha belt has the MOLLE system on the outside of it. If you’re utilizing it as such (mag pouches and miscellaneous accessories with MOLLE attachments), it’s not intended to be warn inside belt loops? It then is just a minimalist “war” belt if you will?
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Posted: 2/22/2021 10:52:43 PM EDT
[#10]
esstac
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Posted: 2/22/2021 10:53:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:37:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Foolish question but the Blue Alpha belt has the MOLLE system on the outside of it. If you’re utilizing it as such (mag pouches and miscellaneous accessories with MOLLE attachments), it’s not intended to be warn inside belt loops? It then is just a minimalist “war” belt if you will? @mr2143 Correct. It's a two-piece belt system. There's an inner belt that you wear inside the belt loops, with velcro all along it on the outside. Then there's the outer belt with the molle webs where you actually attach your pouches, which has velcro all along the inner side. You wear the inner belt inside the belt loops on your pants, and then the outer belt gets worn over top of that and is held in place by the velcro. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 8:50:25 AM EDT
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Best "inner belt" I've used has been from EMDOM USA
The only issue is balancing an inner belt as part of your EDC that is still capable of serving as CCW/gun belt as a stand-alone. I haven't found one yet that is really stiff enough for all-day EDC wear with a CCW, but the Emdom version comes pretty close. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:11:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue Alpha Gear. Pay the extra $10 to upgrade the inner belt. Love mine. Use the inner belt for my everyday carry. It’s great too. With BAG, if you upgrade to the EDC inner belt, is this the one you get?... BAG Low Profile EDC belt If so, that seems like a good deal but it doesn't look like it has much if any Velcro on the outside to lock in with the outer belt? If not, what belt or improvements is the extra $10 getting you? |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:27:02 AM EDT
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You can actually use the inner Velcro belt as your regular belt then throw on your BB when you need it.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With BAG, if you upgrade to the EDC inner belt, is this the one you get?... BAG Low Profile EDC belt If so, that seems like a good deal but it doesn't look like it has much if any Velcro on the outside to lock in with the outer belt? If not, what belt or improvements is the extra $10 getting you? That’s it. It actually has Velcro all the way around. I like that it has the plastic buckle to cinch it down. I can take a pic of mine this evening. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:25:12 PM EDT
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I have an HTC that I've run for years. Held up great.
I just got a bison belt in that I'm going to try out when I get home from this rotation. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can actually use the inner Velcro belt as your regular belt then throw on your BB when you need it. I was trying to figure out what the actually difference was between the standard inner belt and the upgraded EDC belt but I figured it out. The EDC belt has a buckle and the standard is just an overlap design. Looks like Blue Alpha is the way ;-) Now I just have to decide on color? I'm not "tactical" in the least. I was going to get the Black just because that's my go to color for gun related stuff and then get Multicam Black TACO's from HSGI (just cause I like the look of MC Black) but the wolf grey is more lowpro? |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s it. It actually has Velcro all the way around. I like that it has the plastic buckle to cinch it down. I can take a pic of mine this evening. I'm assuming this is it...  |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:58:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Yup. It’s very rigid. It holds my Range Officer Champion LW 45 ACP very well.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:04:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Esstac Shooters belt is hands down the best value. Made in USA, tough, durable, professional grade stuff.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:30:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Love my Blue Alpha belt
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:59:48 PM EDT
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I like my Blue Alpha Gear.
One of the issue I had when I was looking to buy a tactical belt was the sizing. I wanted to make sure that I didn't wait weeks and weeks only to receive an incorrect sizing and I believe some companies might not even allow you to return it if you get the sizing wrong. When I went to order the Blue Alpha Gear the sizing was very simple, they just go by your pant size and have enough adjustment in them to go up or down a full pant size (in case you lose or gain wait at some point). So, the sizing was a big thing that won me over. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 6:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like my Blue Alpha Gear. One of the issue I had when I was looking to buy a tactical belt was the sizing. I wanted to make sure that I didn't wait weeks and weeks only to receive an incorrect sizing and I believe some companies might not even allow you to return it if you get the sizing wrong. When I went to order the Blue Alpha Gear the sizing was very simple, they just go by your pant size and have enough adjustment in them to go up or down a full pant size (in case you lose or gain wait at some point). So, the sizing was a big thing that won me over. I do like that as well. With some other brands that only do small, medium, large, etc., I fall right on the edge between one size or another. Once I pick a color I will be placing my order with BA  |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:09:39 PM EDT
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What's everyone's thoughts on a 2"inner with 1.75" outer?
more sturdy ? https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p181/Shto_Belt.html |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's everyone's thoughts on a 2"inner with 1.75" outer? more sturdy ? I don't think the extra .25" is necessarily "more sturdy" but having a 2" belt and a 2" Safariland UBL should mean that outboard flexing of the bottom of your holster during a draw will be minimized. This is apparently a real concern, since I've seen people add thigh straps near the bottom of the UBL (or whatever mounting plate the holster is on) to prevent it. (I hate thigh straps). Safariland sells belt loops that are 1.75" but most have no/little drop. I want one of the UBLs (probably mid-ride or low) so it'll reliably clear my armor, but I don't really want to use a 2" UBL with spacers to adapt it to a 1.75" belt because I'm concerned about outboard flex. AFAIK Safariland doesn't offer a 1.75" UBL. (Alternatives are spacer options, or something like this: https://wildertactical.com/products/modified-safariland-ubl?variant=32010706419806) I'm planning to add QLS like I run now. I love having QLS on everything. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:13:50 AM EDT
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2" inners have issues fitting in normal pants loops. Unless you got the button belt loops like Brits and Canadians do, go with a 1.5" inner and either a 1.65 or 2" outer belt. Also note, 2" outer belts may require special hardware to attach unless it's made for a LE duty belt. Soft mounts not withstanding
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:28:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Of those I would say BAG.
I have one of their hybrid cobra belts, even tho I eventually chose the Kore Essential for edc, the BAG is an impressive bit of gear. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 2:08:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do like that as well. With some other brands that only do small, medium, large, etc., I fall right on the edge between one size or another. Once I pick a color I will be placing my order with BA Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like my Blue Alpha Gear. One of the issue I had when I was looking to buy a tactical belt was the sizing. I wanted to make sure that I didn't wait weeks and weeks only to receive an incorrect sizing and I believe some companies might not even allow you to return it if you get the sizing wrong. When I went to order the Blue Alpha Gear the sizing was very simple, they just go by your pant size and have enough adjustment in them to go up or down a full pant size (in case you lose or gain wait at some point). So, the sizing was a big thing that won me over. I do like that as well. With some other brands that only do small, medium, large, etc., I fall right on the edge between one size or another. Once I pick a color I will be placing my order with BA BA also offers lifetime resizing. So if you lose or gain a huge amount of weight and the 4 inch adjust doesn't work, just send it in and they will use your existing Cobra buckle and make you a new belt. I am very pleased with my BA belt. The inner is great too and I wear it often as an EDC belt. If you want to have a different color inner belt, just put it in the order comments. I got a Multicam belt, but wanted a Coyote inner belt for daily wear. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 1:29:32 PM EDT
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@airgunner Well, did you decide on color and order? You won't be disappointed! Be sure to check out the 2 threads that cavgunner posted above. You will find yourself tweaking and adding to it and spend entirely too much money
 . I love mine and as usual, this site has cost me too damn much money Blue Alpha MOLLE, Esstac pouches, Ragnarok light bearing holster. NAR ROO ifak (soon to be upgrades to BFG Micro TKN! (Much easier to sit in a vehicle)  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 3:13:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Grey Ghost System is nice.
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Posted: 3/7/2021 2:35:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: Want to put together a basic, general purpose gun belt. Call it whatever but I will be using it for range, training, comps and SHTF if need be. Basically looking for a 2 belt system (1.5" inner with 1.75 outer belt) and Molle compatible Here are a few of the belts I'm looking at: VTAC Raze Blue Alpha Safe Life Defense Tactical belt < A little wider then the other options Any major reason to go with one of them over the others? Any others I should be considering? Does anyone make a belt like the blue alpha that doesn’t need the inner belt? I like the outter belt but I prefer my current edc belt. I want basically a blue alpha belt that I just put on over my edc belt like the old battle belt setups. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @airgunner Well, did you decide on color and order? Yup, went safe and ordered the Black one. I seriously considered going with the grey but for some reason with guns and gun accessories, whenever I deviate from black I almost always end up regretting it. Still need to order a holster and mag holders. Going Safariland ALS/QLS for the holster and HSGI tacos in Multicam black for the mag carriers. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:43:53 AM EDT
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Forget the MOLLE on the outer belt. Velcro OneWrap has made it obsolete. I have the $175 BAG Double Belt combo and if I had to do it all over again I would just go with the Estaac Shooter's Belt.
Example of why I don't need the MOLLE on the outer belt:  Attached FileAfter pouch installation with OneWrap, everything is stuck to everything. The inner surface of the outer belt will be a continuous run of hook-side Velcro. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:46:45 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue Alpha Gear. Pay the extra $10 to upgrade the inner belt. Love mine. Use the inner belt for my everyday carry. It’s great too. This |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:50:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone make a belt like the blue alpha that doesn’t need the inner belt? I like the outter belt but I prefer my current edc belt. I want basically a blue alpha belt that I just put on over my edc belt like the old battle belt setups. @AIWB Just get a HSGI Micro Grip Belt Panel Liner. I attaches to an outer belt and you can just throw it on over your clothes. I run my BAG setup this way 90% of the time as it is truly "grab-n-go".  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:56:24 AM EDT
[#37]
Latest version of my rig. Remember, nothing pictured is mounted on the outer MOLLE rows and I could grab any two pouches and do pull ups off of them.
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Posted: 3/7/2021 2:25:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forget the MOLLE on the outer belt. Velcro OneWrap has made it obsolete. I have the $175 BAG Double Belt combo and if I had to do it all over again I would just go with the Estaac Shooter's Belt. Well I already ordered the belt so... but thanks for the heads up one the OneWrap. I'll have to look into that. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 3:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I already ordered the belt so... but thanks for the heads up one the OneWrap. I'll have to look into that. Here is the place to get it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VELCRO-Brand-ONE-WRAP-Strap-Double-Sided-1-X-12ft-4-yards-Coyote-Brown/264176100221?hash=item3d821f637d:g:bMsAAOSwlThcVSSy |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Esstac
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Posted: 3/7/2021 4:14:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have and use the Raze. It’s great to CC light to medium load outs . Throw a jacket on and it just disappears. Perfect for a urban environment where you don’t want to draw attention Damn you guys suck. Just added the Blue Alpha and inner belt as well as the ESSTAC shooter's belt. Sadly, I have enough pouches to play with...also need to start using that big ass roll of one-wrap... ROCK6 |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 4:43:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThanks
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Posted: 3/7/2021 7:08:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @AIWB Just get a HSGI Micro Grip Belt Panel Liner. I attaches to an outer belt and you can just throw it on over your clothes. I run my BAG setup this way 90% of the time as it is truly "grab-n-go". https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210109_011037472_jpg-1855810.JPG Awesome! Thank you! So I can use this with any outter belt? Or just the HSGI? |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 9:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome! Thank you! So I can use this with any outter belt? Or just the HSGI? @AIWB Most outer belts are lined with hook and some are lined with loop. HSGI makes the Micro Grip Belt Panel in both flavors to accommodate all Velcro lined outer belts. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 10:01:33 PM EDT
[#45]
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Posted: 3/8/2021 12:43:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @AIWB Most outer belts are lined with hook and some are lined with loop. HSGI makes the Micro Grip Belt Panel in both flavors to accommodate all Velcro lined outer belts. Awesome. Once again, many thank yous. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 1:04:33 PM EDT
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Anyone running a Ronin Senshi or TF belt as a general purpose belt?
I was originally looking at the Ronin, but I would need to order their 1.5 inner belt separately due to fitment issues with the 2" inner belt. not to sound cheap, but that pushes the cost up over 250.00. I'm also kind of concerned about their fitment. I fall right between the medium and large @ 40" So if I order the large will there be enough adjustment or do I order the medium and hope for the best. I did try reaching out to Ronin, but never got a reply I see a lot of guys here like the Blue Alpha, so how do they compare. I do like like their simplistic sizing system, if your pants size is this.... order this. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 3:16:31 PM EDT
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Another vote for Esstac.
I use my velcro inner belt as an everyday belt, it's very comfortable and I usually carry in my Clutch belt so the flatness is nice. I also got a Wilder Tactical pad for when it's doing bump in the night duty. When I run in competitions I use the inner/outer belt combo because it's stiffer and feels lighter. Also, Esstac pouches are the absolute best. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 3:52:49 PM EDT
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For regular pants, I love my Oakley belt (cobra buckle). For range stuff, I have a HSG (inner and outer) belt and they have held up extremely well.
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Posted: 3/9/2021 12:53:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forget the MOLLE on the outer belt. Velcro OneWrap has made it obsolete. I have the $175 BAG Double Belt combo and if I had to do it all over again I would just go with the Estaac Shooter's Belt. Example of why I don't need the MOLLE on the outer belt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210107_024836659_jpg-1855803.JPG After pouch installation with OneWrap, everything is stuck to everything. The inner surface of the outer belt will be a continuous run of hook-side Velcro. What is that holster attachment? |
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