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6/25/2018 7:04:05 PM
Posted: 5/12/2018 10:21:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/12/2018 10:23:23 AM EDT by terry1]
Has anyone handled one of the new ATLAS thermal Bino’s yet? I’ve seen a few videos hitting YouTube now and the price doesn’t look to bad. Im curious which brand 12 micron core it has inside plus the type of viewing displays LCD or OLED).
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[Last Edit: 5/12/2018 2:43:48 PM EDT by terry1]
Cool, I thought it would have a BAE core since the videos I saw did have “edge detect”. For a 50mm lens the price looks pretty good if everything else checks out.

Im curious if it’s a manual or auto NUC and the type/specs of the eye displays. Very interested in the zero diopter and how it works.

I’m going to watch for some more user feedback and I could see myself buying a ATLAS this summer. Smells like another TNVC bill coming.
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Link Posted: 6/25/2018 10:51:37 AM EDT
Any more info on these?
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I have one currently. Really impressed with it. Detect/ID range is comparable to a mk3-60. FOV is narrow for close up scanning. We use the pan tilt or patrol spotters for scanning up close and then go to the atlas for longer range ID. Other day my buddy next to me was scanning with an xp50 helion and spotted something. Said it was a pig. Probably 700 out. Went to the atlas and easily confirmed a deer without question. Saved some walking. Plus using two eyeballs is pretty awesome in a lot of circumstances. I also love the simplicity and the way you don't have to fool with diopter adjustments. I'll be keeping mine. Also, they float, if that ever is a concern. Would be good for a marine application.
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[Last Edit: 6/27/2018 11:30:59 AM EDT by terry1]
I wish they would make a 35mm lens version also the bigger FOV for more limited distance terrain would be a big plus for a lot of folks.
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Originally Posted By N-VisionOptics:
We are thinking about a model with 25mm objective for wider FOV. There is a good chance we'll do it if there is enough interest.
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Why not break into new territory by developing a variable telescoping lens for the consumer market place? Corner the market.

If that could be done for just a reasonable bit more money that would be amazing?

Thanks.

( i'm sure that I am completely out of touch with how much that might cost to pull off?)
Link Posted: 6/27/2018 1:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2018 1:46:23 PM EDT by mdmorrow]
Please do. Also OLED display.

edit. That was in response to a possible 25mm unit.
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Add a 2000m rangefinder and ill buy one.
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Add a 2000m rangefinder and ill buy one.
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Seriously. I need a range!
Link Posted: 6/27/2018 5:51:22 PM EDT
Max is a first class engineer, if anyone can do it, he can.
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[Last Edit: 6/27/2018 11:16:31 PM EDT by terry1]
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Originally Posted By N-VisionOptics:
25mm is not a huge deal from the product development standpoint and there is a very good chance that we'll do it.

Unfortunately, OLED displays are still quite expensive and using them would lead to a significant price increase plus require an overhaul of the entire system. We could make ATLAS as small and as light as it is while keeping its price at the very aggressive level by using dual display (no optical splitter) configuration. Biocular with two OLED displays will have a very nice performance but its price will hurt...
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You build a 25,30 or 35mm ATLAS I will have one ordered asap
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Originally Posted By TNVC:

Agreed.
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Vic I expect a response to my reply via PM. Thanks
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What about a bayonet style mount to change lenses?
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 9:13:26 AM EDT
25mm and they'll sell like crazy.

Also add a tripod screw hole. That would be handy.
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I use a reaper grip direct mount and a ballhead. It's a workable solution but not great, but it's workable to clamp the binos in there.
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Hey friend I’m not sure 100% waterproof is a sticking point for most guys you’re marketing these to. I have quite a few thermals and have no need to them out in the rain or dunk them. In my experience people kinda baby these toys.
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[Last Edit: 7/1/2018 1:14:19 PM EDT by terry1]
Not the ATLAS, but does the newer 12 micron TWS13E scope store multiple rifle profiles in the settings or just a single rifle profile? From the looks of things it’s manual Nuc\CAL also?
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[Last Edit: 7/2/2018 6:16:04 PM EDT by Wildfowler]
Have we already discussed with the MSRP is on these units? I may have missed it.

In particular I'm curious what the prices on the binoculars in the 12 micron scopes respectively. Thank you
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[Last Edit: 7/2/2018 10:35:14 PM EDT by Hard_ware]
They would lead the market with a variable .5x-5x lens.
Best of scanning and ID.
Guess we have to wait till someone brings it to market.
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[Last Edit: 7/4/2018 1:59:02 PM EDT by terry1]
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Originally Posted By N-VisionOptics:
Terry1b, 12-micron scopes are still in development. At this point, I can tell you that they will have fixed focus and manual NUC/CAL (no shutter option). We are still weighing pros and cons for multiple rifle profiles. Techincal implementation is very simple but it complicates user interface and can lead to unnecessary mistakes for single rifle users.
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Thanks for the input, for me as a buyer I wouldn’t buy a thermal scope that didn’t have multiple rifle profiles (3 or 4). I’ve bought over a dozen thermal scopes and have used thermal on a weekly basis for 10 plus years now. Being able to move a thermal scope from my 22cal to my 300BLK gives me more potential use and there-for justification to spend thousands on a thermal scope. I also can set a profile for subsonic and supersonic 300blk so while in the field I can change profiles and ammo/magazine to meet the mission on hand. Just more flexibility overall.

I like the fixed focus some folks don’t. My thoughts from thousands of hours of field use is fixed focus is one less thing to have to mess with making it faster to get shots down range. Plus as my MK III 60mm and ReapIR proves fix focus systems can be ultra clear image wise.

I also write each profile, rifle information and load down on my IPhone notes section for reference. I know mistakes can happen someone forgets to change profiles , however most thermal scopes out there use multiple profiles now so users have become trained for that.

Pricing you guys are dead on compared to the current market using BAE 12 micron core no worries there.
Link Posted: 7/4/2018 3:35:39 PM EDT
Do these scopes/binoculars have video output? Or internal video recording?

thanks.
Link Posted: 7/4/2018 4:01:37 PM EDT
Pictures only internal and yes there is a video out jack
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Originally Posted By N-VisionOptics:
Hi Terry1, thanks for your input. It's greatly appreciated. We'll have to think very hard how to implement multiple rifle profiles without confusing users who don't use more than one weapon or don't keep good notes.
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Maybe you could design the system to allow the user to "name" the profile and display the name permanently on the screen.
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