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Posted: 9/8/2019 11:58:38 AM EDT
Hey everyone I’m looking to finally get into the NVG club. I was in the army from 2006-2010 and had a set of PVS-7B and a PAQ-4C. This is my full extent of NVG knowledge, basically only using these items. I liked what I had and I’m trying to find a reputable replacement for my personal use. I see both on eBay but I hear horror stories. I’m not sure what brand or autogated vs non autogated. I don’t have a ton of money to blow either.
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New ones are very expensive, out of most people's budget. I have bought two pair off of eBay used, one pair recently stopped powering on at a little over 3 years of ownership. I've not had it looked at to see if it can be fixed yet. The second pair which is going on 3 and a half years of ownership is still running fine. I got both pair for less than a thousand bucks each. Both pair have been used quite a bit by me in hog hunting and such
I have no idea what the lifespan of a brand new set is, but at $3,000 plus I'll gamble on used instead
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Originally Posted By fullmedaljacket8:
Hey everyone I’m looking to finally get into the NVG club. I was in the army from 2006-2010 and had a set of PVS-7B and a PAQ-4C. This is my full extent of NVG knowledge, basically only using these items. I liked what I had and I’m trying to find a reputable replacement for my personal use. I see both on eBay but I hear horror stories. I’m not sure what brand or autogated vs non autogated. I don’t have a ton of money to blow either.
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I’d keep an eye out for a used -7 on the EE or fleabay. Autogated is better but I wouldn’t pass up a good non-gated one. You should be able to find one with a decent gen 3 tube for under $1,500.00. I agree with Sam, I’d rather pick a -14, IMO mainly because you can reuse the optics if you go into a bino down the road. Or if you went dual -14s there’s a bunch of dual bridge mounts. Finding a decent used -14 you’ll be somewhere $1,500 - $2,500.

To get started at the lowest cost, have the money ready to go, so when a good deal on a -7 pops up you can snag it right away. Factor in a Rhino II Mount, shroud, and bump helmet ($200-$500 depending what you find new/used). Snag a used DBAL i2 (IR/IR) and you should be all in around the $2,000-$3,000 range.
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Gen3 autogated PVS7 can be found for 900-1,200 on Ebay, Facebook groups: Cool Guy Tactical or AirSoft Night Vision, TacSwap, the EE, and IMHO is the best bang for the buck Gen3 NV available. Better depth perception vs a single 14 and, you'll piss off everyone who spent thousands more for dual 14s or binos and have the same benefits of both eyes being aided.
Link Posted: 9/8/2019 9:21:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MunnyShot:
Gen3 autogated PVS7 can be found for 900-1,200 on Ebay, Facebook groups: Cool Guy Tactical or AirSoft Night Vision, TacSwap, the EE, and IMHO is the best bang for the buck Gen3 NV available. Better depth perception vs a single 14 and, you'll piss off everyone who spent thousands more for dual 14s or binos and have the same benefits of both eyes being aided.
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Your brain doesn’t see a PVS-7 and dual PVS-14s the same way.

That said, I do love me some PVS-7.
Link Posted: 9/8/2019 9:22:39 PM EDT
Thanks for all the responses. I’ve got a decent helmet and rhino mount. I can’t wait to join the cool guy club.
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Originally Posted By MunnyShot:
Gen3 autogated PVS7 can be found for 900-1,200 on Ebay, Facebook groups: Cool Guy Tactical or AirSoft Night Vision, TacSwap, the EE, and IMHO is the best bang for the buck Gen3 NV available. Better depth perception vs a single 14 and, you'll piss off everyone who spent thousands more for dual 14s or binos and have the same benefits of both eyes being aided.
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That's not how depth perception works. Two eyes + one image is the same as one eye + one image.
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Originally Posted By TheHorta:

Your brain doesn’t see a PVS-7 and dual PVS-14s the same way.

That said, I do love me some PVS-7.
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I guess for some people, but for me and everyone I know with NV who've had a chance to run dual 14s, binos and 7s all in the same night we've seen no real difference in shooting, depth perception, moving, navigating and driving. Of course mostly everyone said if they where to do it all over again they'd go straight to binos and skip over 7s and a 14 because they rolled. What is the difference you notice between binos vs a pvs7?
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What does “they rolled” mean
Link Posted: 9/8/2019 10:24:33 PM EDT
Don’t waste your money on a POS 7. Go for a 14.
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Originally Posted By smeeg:
What does “they rolled” mean
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AKA "go big or go home", a form of "gear snobbery", or can't buy anything less due to risking being called "the poors"
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Originally Posted By MunnyShot:

AKA "go big or go home", a form of "gear snobbery", or can't buy anything less due to risking being called "the poors"
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the "poors" talk definitely gets old, but whatever...
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Sam:
I would recommend going with the proven PVS-14 over the -7 any night.
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This is why we can't be besties.
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:

This is why we can't be besties.
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But we sure can!
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 10:45:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fullmedaljacket8:
Hey everyone I’m looking to finally get into the NVG club. I was in the army from 2006-2010 and had a set of PVS-7B and a PAQ-4C. This is my full extent of NVG knowledge, basically only using these items. I liked what I had and I’m trying to find a reputable replacement for my personal use. I see both on eBay but I hear horror stories. I’m not sure what brand or autogated vs non autogated. I don’t have a ton of money to blow either.
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I bought my pvs-14 from JRH enterprises, killer deal on it and a 10 year warranty.

A friend of mine has a gen 2 pvs-7 and gen 3 pvs 14, the difference in performance and clarity between them are flat out obvious.

My eyes aren't tuned yet for the finer details of all these different gen3 units, however seeing the difference between pvs7 gen2 vs gen3 I happily stepped up and went for it.
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Sam:
I would recommend going with the proven PVS-14 over the -7 any night.
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This. Forget the PVS7 and get a 14. Keep an eye on the EE. There have been some really good deals over the past couple of months.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/Night-Vision/172/
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 6:37:31 PM EDT
Just got my PVS 7 ITT model 5001p for $800 on eBay. They seem really sweet for the money. Brings back memories of 12 hour tower guard in Iraq. Now I just need a dbal.
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Thanks man, good luck. I lucked out with this guy and made an offer as soon as he listed it. Prices have gone nuts on eBay here is one I was going to bid on. PVS7
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Oof. Yeah that's a bit more than id ever consider spending on a PVS-7 but looks like a nice unit. I already have NV so it'll end up being a set for my wife/daughter to play with. May just end up piecing one together over time if I find a nice 7 format tube for cheap
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My wife doesn’t know I bought mine yet...

That’s cool dude, I can’t wait to get another set when I get some more money stacked up.
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Originally Posted By fullmedaljacket8:
Just got my PVS 7 ITT model 5001p for $800 on eBay. They seem really sweet for the money. Brings back memories of 12 hour tower guard in Iraq. Now I just need a dbal.
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The 7 is perfect for this specific application. Probably even better than the 14.
Link Posted: 9/13/2019 2:24:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TNVC:

I like my old 7's for star gazing to this day. I remember several years ago the late Art Bell show had a show on using NV to spot UFO ET types....It was nuts for a few months with some straaange calls.
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My nut job virgin uncle who lives with my grandmother lives for calls like that. He tells me all kinds of crazy shit.
Link Posted: 9/13/2019 2:21:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheHorta:

The 7 is perfect for this specific application. Probably even better than the 14.
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Yeah I don’t plan on being ultra tacticool, kicking down doors and such. Just wanted something that I could get my foot into the door of NV at a good price that I am familiar with.
Link Posted: 9/13/2019 6:42:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TNVC:

I like my old 7's for star gazing to this day. I remember several years ago the late Art Bell show had a show on using NV to spot UFO ET types....It was nuts for a few months with some straaange calls.
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Loved Art Bell. Very cool.....NV and Art Bell.
Link Posted: 9/13/2019 8:46:00 PM EDT
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