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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:21:17 AM EDT
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Trying to shoot passively through a magnified optics is near impossible to use with head mounted NV. As far as the MRO it is NV capable with 2 settings, but you can use regular RDS on their lowest setting, just don't stare at it for long durations. IMHO the Comp/Pro series RDS are the best due to the ability to quickly roll the rheostat very quickly if your lighting suddenly changes.
If you already have a D2 there is no real need for a vampire, so I'd just go with a good white light instead. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 2:04:30 AM EDT
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I've shot my MRO with a helmet mounted PVS-14. It has 2 nvg modes, and it works, but I would not want to make a habit of using it like that. You will probably be happier with the Eotech, although if you have the DBAL you will probably using that more than either optic
Order of preference on optics: Eotech > ITL MARS > MRO > Aimpoint |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 2:13:47 AM EDT
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I have a ta02 led acog and it's just too awkward to shoot through passively. You need to adjust your focus plus use a strong illuminator to see anything. EXPS3 is a great passive aim optic you wont be disappointed with that choice.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 8:59:43 AM EDT
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Shooting through an ACOG is easier with a version with a massive eyebox like the TA33 or TA11 and even then it is still awkward.
Go with a non magnified optic, IMHO. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:08:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for the words here folks. Still think8ng on the mro Patrol with a ADM nightvision height mount. I got rid of my Eotech for a multitude of reasons and not sure I should get one again honestly.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:56:44 PM EDT
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I shoot with just about everything. That said I love the eotech.
Big window, great reticle. It’s my favorite for passive shooting. Also love a rmr on top of an acog for passive shooting. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:16:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kersty52: Thanks for the words here folks. Still think8ng on the mro Patrol with a ADM nightvision height mount. I got rid of my Eotech for a multitude of reasons and not sure I should get one again honestly. I got rid of my first eotech when they did the voluntary recall. Bought an MRO with the money. I now have 3 more eotechs, I think for night vision it is a better optic than the MRO. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:47:25 AM EDT
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Whispers in Aimpoint
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:05:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Sam: Whispers in Aimpoint I suppose I could pull out the old M3 to put on it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:09:21 PM EDT
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I can squeeze behind my Aimpoints with Lower 1/3 mounts but it's not comfortable. However, my most recent build has a T2 on a Unity Fast mount and it's very obvious right away that Unity had passive night vision shooting in mind when designed. To be honest I'm not disliking using it for normal heads up shooting during daylight as well. The height over bore offset is larger at close range but I find that I'm looking straight forward more than with my Lower 1/3s where my head is more down and my eyes are in a more upward angle. Not a severe angle mind you but is there. The only position I've gotten into that looks to be the Achilles heel of the Fast mount is prone shooting but that really isn't what is was designed for.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:37:57 PM EDT
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Eotech reticle is very crisp under night vision. Better than the day for me.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:50:37 PM EDT
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Are any of the options reasonable as a canted sight for passive aiming while still being able to keep the LPVO?
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ashiha: Are any of the options reasonable as a canted sight for passive aiming while still being able to keep the LPVO? A T1, T2, RMO, or RMR works well. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MunnyShot: A T1, T2, RMO, or RMR works well. Does the concept itself work well, or is it generally too low/too close to the LPVO? Really hoping to get the best of both worlds at the sacrifice of a little weight and cost. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 10:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ashiha: Does the concept itself work well, or is it generally too low/too close to the LPVO? Really hoping to get the best of both worlds at the sacrifice of a little weight and cost. What scope are you using (or thinking of using)? |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 12:39:07 AM EDT
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Tried many. Keep going right back to my EOTech on the rifle - never found a better sight for day and night. No fooling around necessary in advance. The dot is nice and tiny, and the field is wide and easy to get behind.
Have an Aimpoint T2 on a large pistol and it's great in that application. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 12:46:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tikiman001: What scope are you using (or thinking of using)? Razor Gen 3 1-10 or something similar. Haven't decided yet, but am fairly confident I want to go the LPVO route. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 1:43:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ashiha: Razor Gen 3 1-10 or something similar. Haven't decided yet, but am fairly confident I want to go the LPVO route. It could work. For the 34mm scopes the Reptilia ROF-45 for the RMR is an option option, you would have to use a Geissle mount. I think there is also one that clamps to the scope body, but can't remember the name. Here is the possible hang-up, are you going to use a clip-on in conjunction with the Razor? Depending on the clip-on I would be concerned with any offset red dot possibly being obscured. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 1:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ashiha: Does the concept itself work well, or is it generally too low/too close to the LPVO? Really hoping to get the best of both worlds at the sacrifice of a little weight and cost. There are different height mounts so there is options. I run a T1 on a DD 1 O' clock mount where my BUIS use to live and it works great for my application. |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 3:20:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tikiman001: It could work. For the 34mm scopes the Reptilia ROF-45 for the RMR is an option option, you would have to use a Geissle mount. I think there is also one that clamps to the scope body, but can't remember the name. Here is the possible hang-up, are you going to use a clip-on in conjunction with the Razor? Depending on the clip-on I would be concerned with any offset red dot possibly being obscured. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tikiman001: It could work. For the 34mm scopes the Reptilia ROF-45 for the RMR is an option option, you would have to use a Geissle mount. I think there is also one that clamps to the scope body, but can't remember the name. Here is the possible hang-up, are you going to use a clip-on in conjunction with the Razor? Depending on the clip-on I would be concerned with any offset red dot possibly being obscured. No clip-on. Thanks for the recommendation! Originally Posted By MunnyShot: There are different height mounts so there is options. I run a T1 on a DD 1 O' clock mount where my BUIS use to live and it works great for my application. Thank you to you both! I'm going to proceed with the notion that it works. |
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