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Posted: 1/14/2019 9:21:00 AM EDT
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The measurements I've seen has the NG2 performance at the muzzle only a few db higher than some traditional baffled suppressors and of course lower at the shooters ear due to the low back pressure. The big negative is the weight of the NG2, if you don't mind that than you'll probably be happy with it if minimal back pressure is your main focus.
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Posted: 1/14/2019 9:29:46 AM EDT
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Since you are using a DI AR, the best option is to get an adjustable gas block from Superlative Arms and use that in conjunction with your favorite gas busting CH (mine is the Armegaddon Tactical GMS-15 Gen 2). That will allow you to have the best of both worlds with a more traditional suppressor as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNWVo76DwRs And if you really want to go all out you can get an LMT Enhanced carrier, Tubbs flatwire spring, and don't run a buffer retainer for even better results.
There is basically zero reason to run the heavy and long ultra low back pressure cans (like the OSS and Nexgen) on DI ARs currently because there are better means of cutting down blow back (like the AGB), especially with most modern cans being low(er) back pressure. Instead, along with the gas block suggested above I'd recommend picking up a Dead Air Nomad (or if you are on a bit of a budget, the SIG SRD 5.56 QD) which will prove superior in just about every metric to the OSS/Nexgen. Where ultra low back pressure cans shine is on rifles where there is way to mitigate the blowback, ex: X95, AUG, AK, G3, and so on. In those cases, from the limited testing I've seen the OSS is outperforming the Nexgen (but the only time they've gone directly head to head is a bolt gun). |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 9:58:58 AM EDT
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I did a YouTube review on one, it really does live up to the blowback claims. It's also quieter at the ear than almost any other can I've tried on an AR. The meter numbers weren't as good, as would be expected.
All my friends that shot it back to back with other cans liked it more. They were expensive AF, and I think they were lowered to about 1000 but I have never shot with an OSS, they won't answer my requests to review one. |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 10:45:40 AM EDT
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We tested a couple of the NG2 cans, one in .30 cal on an M60 and one in .223 on an M4. There was effectively zero increase in rate of fire (<1 rpm) or rearward bolt velocity using these suppressors.
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Posted: 1/14/2019 11:03:53 AM EDT
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As others have said, they don't really change function of the host. No cyclic rate increase in autos, no real blowback, ultra low backpressure.
The cans are amazing on hosts that need them, such as the FS2000. |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 12:34:03 PM EDT
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I heard they were going under which would explain the price point! Shot one before and it seemed heavy and loud. OSS Suppressors had the no blow back concept first so they might be worth a look. Ive seen some good reviews on youtube on them. I think LMT also came out with one but have not seen much on it. Might also be worth checking out.
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Posted: 1/14/2019 12:38:58 PM EDT
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Sooo buy an expensive silencer and then buy quality expensive parts?
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Posted: 1/14/2019 6:17:42 PM EDT
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If you are considering a purchase I would wait to see what comes out of SHOT. Back-pressure is getting more attention from companies seeking to innovate.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:45:54 AM EDT
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Waiting for SHOT makes sense. I spent an hour today watching the ins and outs of AGBs and buffers. Also, I am picking up an Armageddon charging handle online now as well.
This world seems just as expensive as golf, but maybe more addictive. The level of knowledge in this forum is outstanding. Thanks guys. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:55:58 AM EDT
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Waiting for SHOT makes sense. I spent an hour today watching the ins and outs of AGBs and buffers. Also, I am picking up an Armageddon charging handle online now as well. This world seems just as expensive as golf, but maybe more addictive. The level of knowledge in this forum is outstanding. Thanks guys. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 6:58:04 PM EDT
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Any issues with the Armageddon charging handle unlatching during firing? I’m considering trying one over my radian sd charging handle.
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Posted: 1/17/2019 7:29:53 PM EDT
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Any issues with the Armageddon charging handle unlatching during firing? I’m considering trying one over my radian sd charging handle. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 11:01:48 PM EDT
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No unlatching, that was the Gen 1. Gen 2 is gtg, best CH I've ever used.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 5:19:37 AM EDT
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Well dang, once I’m out of debt that was my next can on the list.
I will echo the positive feedback on the Armageddon Tac handle. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 5:23:15 PM EDT
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And if you really want to go all out you can get an LMT Enhanced carrier, Tubbs flatwire spring, anddon't run a buffer retainer for even better results. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 9:10:07 AM EDT
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Talked to this company, they are still making the Maxflo and coming out with a new can as well.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 12:21:51 PM EDT
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Talked to this company, they are still making the Maxflo and coming out with a new can as well. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 3:15:56 PM EDT
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Did they indicate if they are going to be able to improve the muzzle numbers? (Not that I care, but that's a common criticism) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talked to this company, they are still making the Maxflo and coming out with a new can as well. The full size QuantumFlo is the same diameter as the MAXFLO, but only 6.5" in length and under 15oz. It's running 5-8db quiter than the MAXFLO, has much more internal volume, cooling surface area and distance of gas travel. |
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Posted: 3/3/2019 4:48:58 PM EDT
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Anyone have a link to the new can? Sounds interesting.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 10:18:35 AM EDT
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@10mm_ Can't seem to find any articles on this
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Posted: 3/14/2019 1:15:39 PM EDT
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@10mm_ Can't seem to find any articles on this I asked to review one of the new cans but haven't heard back, hopefully soon. |
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Posted: 3/19/2019 4:38:14 PM EDT
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It was at SHOT 2019 apparently, but I didn't see any info out there. June/July timeframe was quoted in the email, with several other cans in the pipeline as well. I hope one is a pistol can that minimizes blowback. |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 3:38:38 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/SSDX3Gs.png It was at SHOT 2019 apparently, but I didn't see any info out there. June/July timeframe was quoted in the email, with several other cans in the pipeline as well. I hope one is a pistol can that minimizes blowback. Will they have any plans to make quick detach model? |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 5:28:25 PM EDT
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Are these only direct thread suppressors? Will they have any plans to make quick detach model? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://i.imgur.com/SSDX3Gs.png It was at SHOT 2019 apparently, but I didn't see any info out there. June/July timeframe was quoted in the email, with several other cans in the pipeline as well. I hope one is a pistol can that minimizes blowback. Will they have any plans to make quick detach model? |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 5:52:14 PM EDT
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look at the bottom right of the flyer 
Hopefully it will be an adapter that is compatible with other cans. |
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Posted: 4/2/2019 1:11:55 PM EDT
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After shooting the NG2 again i have come to the conclusion that it his freaking heavy and noisy. Ill stick with the OSS
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Posted: 4/2/2019 2:19:47 PM EDT
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After shooting the NG2 again i have come to the conclusion that it his freaking heavy and noisy. Ill stick with the OSS Edit: I just purchased one from Capital Armory anyways to put on a Tavor. Purchased a SilencerCo Switchback as well since it was a $100 off. |
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Posted: 4/3/2019 4:17:58 PM EDT
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Cool. Looking forward to hearing how it shoots in... 8 months
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Posted: 4/3/2019 6:27:27 PM EDT
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Cool. Looking forward to hearing how it shoots in... 8 months |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 9:08:26 AM EDT
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My dealer doesn't have a range, but he will take me shooting at the club he is a member at if I ask him. So I don't think I will wait 8 months to shoot it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. Looking forward to hearing how it shoots in... 8 months |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 10:58:43 AM EDT
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After shooting the NG2 again i have come to the conclusion that it his freaking heavy and noisy. Ill stick with the OSS |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 3:00:11 PM EDT
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I can put mine on my Tavor, in fact I should try that and the Hopaii because its loud next to your head big time even with a can. |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 3:07:23 PM EDT
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OSS can or NG2 Maxflo suppressor on your Tavor? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can put mine on my Tavor, in fact I should try that and the Hopaii because its loud next to your head big time even with a can. |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 10:38:47 PM EDT
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I don't have an OSS, but I do have a Maxflo Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't have an OSS, but I do have a Maxflo Quoted: Is the OSS not heavy and noisy? |
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