His comparison videos seem pretty fair. It's simply media that's available to consumers to make their own conclusions. I enjoy his content and have watched most of his videos.

I personally find his content straightforward, concise, very well thought out, and most importantly honest. I also personally enjoy his dry sense of humor.  

When I want exciting I'll watch flannel daddy shoot gel torsos in a labcoat.

I don't think some of the videos are all that different from asking on this forum.  If people spend money on something, many want to justify their purchase, so you can find bias there too.

I watch the videos for information realizing what they are.  Many provide basic information that I can use to help me determine if a product is for me.  I have used the NFA channel for that purpose, including Garand Thumb and many others.  

I expect companies to advertise and get their products out there.  The YouTube reviews help with that and the demonitization has had an effect.  Silencer Shop does the same when demonstrating cans, because they want you to buy from them.

I have never gotten the hate some people have.  If you don't like, move on.  I use them for info and a springboard into my own research.  I have done that for all the products I buy.  

Even did this for deciding to buy a GA Recce 7!

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I would love to hear what suppressor reviewers people really watch and/or value (other than Pew Science as that's already been covered). I'm just curious to who and why.

Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics is probably the most reliable YouTube source. He has a ton of experience with a wide variety of suppressors on a wide variety of hosts and he has been including footage shooting in near/total darkness and under night vision which is much needed and appreciated. I find him very fair in the way he puts his subjective experience with them into context to help inform the audience about the intended/best use of a suppressor. He's just in a totally different league than the "infomercial" type "reviews," IMO.

He gives me the vibe of being objective as well. Or less shill-y?

Pretty much this, I enjoy NFA review and think Adam does a good job.

A buddy and I bought tickets to go to Suppressed Fest in Nov which is a NFA review event.

If nothing else he makes quality videos and promotes  supressor ownership.

As someone who doesn't really follow these things, which company is suspected of doing that?

It's really hard to get value from suppressor reviews on the internet.  Metering is rare and even then can be subjective depending on host, ammo, location, etc.

I agree with the others that Sage Dynamics appears to be a trustworthy source, and he reviews many products to similar standards.

I always liked Silencer Shop's Table Top reviews since they show you what comes in the box. Alabama Arsenal is similar, but I don't think the sound comparison portion of their review is worth anything (that seems like a waste of time).

The only metering tests that I ever found useful was Military Arms Channel, but he rarely does it.

So you are in it for the entertainment value, not the review itself.

Got it.

That was a shit show. Retarded long line to get in. Neckbeards in gun brand t-shirts everywhere drooling over the fact that we had girls with us. The only suppressors available were stuff my buddies and I already owned - nothing new that hadn't been released yet. No NFA items were available to purchase meanwhile Adam was flying around in some helicopter showboating which was obnoxiously loud.

Enjoy.

If you pay attention to Tacswap listings that coincide with the release date of optic reviews, you can start to see how those "supplied by the manufacturer for review" optics are being used as payment.

I mean, if I get something for free and sell it, did I not make money? Even though I wasn't directly paid by the manufacturer I've managed to line my pockets a bit. If suppressors were easier to sell we'd be seeing the same thing.

Lol come on get real. You don’t seriously believe people get PAID to do reviews do you hahahahahaha

They told me Oct/Nov it will have Keymo.

Or a Ferrari....

I saw that too...  I think his wife is a nurse or something, but still.  Is YouTube that lucrative?

AAC also announced that they will be doing a 1.375" x 24 retrofit for legacy cans too.

My wife is a family nurse practitioner.   I drive her small crossover SUV that I inherited after we upgraded her to a minivan.  Nurses and nurse practitioners don’t usually make Ferrari money unless you make a lot of other sacrifices.  Maybe he has family money, maybe he saves and invests well, maybe he’s a serious car guy who has been collecting or rebuilding cars his whole life in order to be able to afford a Ferrari.  I would be more interested to learn more about how much money he makes from YouTube and if/how he is compensated by manufacturers for featuring their products if I were using his channel to make purchasing decisions.  At any rate, good on the man for turning his passion into a busines.  I admire that and am glad we live in a country where that is possible.

I do think it is interesting that people initially turned to internet reviewers at least partially because the traditional gun magazines were awfully friendly with the gun industry.  Now if you are just consuming either/both for entertainment purposes and don’t mind that aspect of the business, no harm done.  But there did seem to be an awful lot of people who took umbrage with traditional gun mags when the Remington R51 was released and they all said it was the best thing since sliced bread.

If I remember correctly, he also has a Patreon that has tiers to get his members discounts on his sponsors stuff. I'm sure he's not making Thot Onlyfans money, but I bet he gets a good chunk from there

To be clear, Im not getting down on him.  I like his channel.  I was just surprised.  I think that is fantastic that something like that is possible.  Getting paid to shoot and get fast cars.  Sounds great.  I dont care if he gets paid by manufacturers.  His opinions seem genuine to me.

Do they have kids?
6 figure nurse and big city union fireman without kids could afford stuff

Parents die and left them a house in Beverly Hills?

He bought Bitcoin in 2013?

Truck could be a 179 deduction

Or maybe manufacturers pay him obscene money to skew reviews?
ETA: does anyone question Capitol Armory’s Ferrari?

Companies with marketing departments have an axe to grind.  They will claim, say, produce "results" of all manner and type to convince you their product is the best.  In many cases, their claims are...mostly true...but typically under very specific circumstances (that aren't necessarily part of actual use).  Case in point:  Several manufacturers "claim" their shop vacs produce "X amount of peak horsepower."

The truth is, they don't come anywhere close to that in actual use...and there have been law suits to that extent, but the companies win the law suits, because in a very specific laboratory set up, they can produce the numbers that are equivalent to their claims.  The "real" truth is, HP is not the real measure of suction power in a shop vac.

Anyway, with youtube the way it is, anyone looking to make money on firearms and firearm accessory reviews almost have no choice but to be paid shills to an extent.  At the very least, you simply don't see them reviewing products they know are bad to avoid having to say anything bad about anything.  Outside of firearms, there are plenty of YT channels that pride themselves on being unsponsored and unpaid by any company and they will absolutely trash products that are crap.  They make their money from donations and patreon and so forth.  The downside is, they aren't making the "big bucks", but many don't do too bad, obviously, or they wouldn't continue making test and review content.

The truth is simply that corporate marketing is a powerful player in every corner of the consumer market.  In fact, for many companies, their marketing budget makes up most of their expenditures because they know people believe what they're told.  Think about it, why are companies so willing to spend advertising money on banners, clickable links, ad videos at the beginning of every youtube video, on social media, or even millions of dollars for a 30 second spot during the super bowl, etc, etc, etc?  Because it sells products.

To a large degree, social media and youtube have become just an extension of traditional marketing.  Smart companies have glommed onto youtubers who garner large viewing audiences.  It saves the company a lot of time and money as they didn't have to lift a finger to get all those viewers, they just benefit from it if the youtuber agrees to sign on with them and the youtuber is more than happy to make good money as a result.

As for only reviewing things that get good reviews, I dare say there are tubers that are shady as well.  They say they aren't paid, but then later we find out they are taking money from a certain company...they deny it, of course, but over time, it becomes obvious or the truth comes out.  I admit, I used to pay a lot of attention to one like that, but then I got suspicious when he would regularly trash a certain brand that I and a lot of people I personally know have a lot of experience with and none of us ever had any of the "bad" he had to say about it.  I then began to notice he favored a particular brand a lot, visited their facilities on several occasions and then we find out he was, in fact, being paid by them, contrary to his claims.

The bottom line is simply that "money talks" and big companies with lots of money can do a lot of talking.  Most aren't interested is chancing a bad review, so they're going to do whatever they need to do to ensure the reviewer is going to have nothing but good to say, whether that good is fact, or heavily influenced with some green.

When it comes to YT reviews, I typically ignore the reviewers opinion items. I never watch, or care about "unboxing" videos.  I think those are the most ridiculous waste of time. I'm only interested in actual results when the product is tested.

I doubt we'll ever see a "standardized" testing method for suppressors.  It's not in the company's favor to do that.  Nearly all of the suppressors on the market are so closely matched in actual suppression that it does take sensitive (i.e. expensive) equipment to discern any technical differences.  Beyond that, "sound" is subjective.  Whether lower or a higher frequency sound is more desirable is subjective.  Video cameras and mics are horrible at conveying what a suppressor actually sounds like in person.

Quoted for truth. A great example is LTT, they always call out if the video is a review for the item or a sponsored showcase. You cannot review an item that is sponsoring the video.
They have sponsors for every video, but it's typically not the item being reviewed.

Anyone who is taking money from a manufacture to make a video is doing a showcase/infomercial. Even if it is not 100% positive, it is not a review.
They can send you a sample that you have to send back, but paying for a review is shady.

In my opinion any conflicting investments should be stated also. e.g. Owning stock in a particular manufacture.

Only big youtuber I have seen consistently give realistic reviews is nutnfancy

True. But you have to watch a 40 minute video for 15 minutes of content.

What do you consider to be a realistic review?

I'd rather get ripped off than watch a nutnfancy video.

When someone says something negative about the product or to not buy the product all together...nutn does this all the time, and if he does recommend it as a buy he will still give caveats and contraindications (unfortunately does not review silencers)
Nfa review channel has never met a silencer he did not like
Alabamaarsenal has never met a silencer he did not like


Haha, yes I skip every watch and knife video

Do you trust Tiborasaurus Rex reviews?

Because they are not going to waste their time, ammo and money doing a review/spotlight/advertisement whatever rhe hell you feel like calling it for a product that they feel is not worth the time and money. These quality video reviews take all that, time, money and ammo.

This is absolutely true of Alabama Arsenal.

So you like purple Koolaid, not red. Got it.

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That’s a good way to amass a fortune but a bad way to gain credibility

I’m sorry, your comments are just too witty for me to understand

I just mean you prefer one guy's shilling over another. Nutnfancy absolutely gets paid to pump product.

Not too familiar with that guy, is he the one that does a lot of pistol reviews and asks people to donate to homeless shelters at the end? I’ve seen a couple I think but not in a long time

You could be right, especially with watches and knives which I don’t care anything about...guns I dunno, I feel like he gives a lot more criticism than anyone else.

THIS GUY

He started about a dozen years ago, mainly making informative videos about long range shooting.  It morphed into other stuff, including reviews.

Oh ya, I watched his PA 3x micro prism review, seemed pretty balanced if I remember correctly, some of those videos look pretty interesting, gonna have to give them a watch.

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