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11/2/2022 4:30:06 PM
Posted: 9/18/2022 1:08:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: rob78]
I've toyed with picking one of these up, but lacked the education to make an informed decision.  So I balked on it.  

I get a call a couple weeks ago from my favorite LGS owner and he says he's letting go of a few things, knew I had interest, and thought I'd want a "nice" M1.  He told me the price, I met him at the shop and bought it.

I had previously bought a Remington Rand 1911 from him and it was everything he said it was.  So I took him at his word and bought thr garand.

I have looked up all numbers and they're all SA and in the year of mfg for the rifle (969xxx, late 1942).  There's no rust, zero pitting.

Anyway, I still don't know everything about the rifle and had hoped you guys could help.  I bought a 1942 bayonet from him for $150 to go with the rifle.  He threw in a leather scabbard, also dated 1942.

Sorry for the bad pictures. If there's something else you need to see, let me know.

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Link Posted: 9/18/2022 1:15:09 PM EST
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Nice rifle, the Lock Bar sight is a nice bonus!  Might be a winchester lock bar sight drum with the open arrow ends,......if my rusty brain remembers the trivia right.  

Looks like a solid authentic rifle!  Having the WW2 era sight when most don’t is a huge plus as well as that original 1942 barrel!  My 10-41 barrel is muzzle worn but I leave it alone!
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 1:24:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
Nice rifle, the Lock Bar sight is a nice bonus!  Might be a winchester lock bar sight drum with the open arrow ends,......if my rusty brain remembers the trivia right.  

Looks like a solid authentic rifle!  Having the WW2 era sight when most don’t is a huge plus as well as that original 1942 barrel!  My 10-41 barrel is muzzle worn but I leave it alone!
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Yeah, I havent taken the sight apart and probably won't for a bit.

I did field strip and write down all parts numbers.  Trigger, op rod, hammer, etc etc. Are all SA and 1942 mfg.

Eta: if there's anything I need to check or look at, please let me know.  I'm trying to learn, but the minutia for these is as bad as old 1911s (which I know after 20 years).
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 1:42:31 PM EST
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Nice!

I got a CMP fairly recently. It was in slightly better shape, but a complete hodgepodge of parts. I think it had IH, Winchester, and maybe H&R too in a Springfield receiver.

Still, shoots nice. Enjoy yours!  Pretty damned cool.
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 2:53:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BuddyChryst:
Nice!

I got a CMP fairly recently. It was in slightly better shape, but a complete hodgepodge of parts. I think it had IH, Winchester, and maybe H&R too in a Springfield receiver.

Still, shoots nice. Enjoy yours!  Pretty damned cool.
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This one came from the cmp. I think he said it was 5-7 years ago.

The stock has some gouges in, pretty good ones. I'm not going to bother cleaning or sealing it.  It's an honest rifle and  the dents and dings add some character.

I got a little excited when all the small part numbers were SA and mfg within the same year.

Trying to revive the leather scabbard.  Slowly conditioning with Pecards.  Hoping to get it pliable enough for the rifle to fit.
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 3:46:12 PM EST
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I can't see the bayonet very clearly, but those old sword bayonets were worth a premium. See them mostly on 03A3's a trench shotguns. You're M1 looks like a fine example to me. It appears to have a leaded receiver based on the two tone color on the rear, but that's just from re-heat treating. Shouldn't be an issue as I recall. Nice rifle scabbard too! Those are pricey! I'd say you made out pretty well.
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 4:24:31 PM EST
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Good buy
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 7:02:03 PM EST
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Nice correct looking Garand, op. Looks good.

I picked up a CMP field grade Springfield Garand today, it came with CMP hardcase and papers. I traded a Blue Sky carbine for it. The carbine was nice but I think I got the better end of the deal. It's a Korean War era Garand with all correct Springfield parts. I'll post up a thread about it after I take it to the range.
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 7:36:41 PM EST
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Who’s cartouche is on the stock?
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Link Posted: 9/18/2022 7:39:51 PM EST
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Nice. Ashamed to admit I don't have one yet.
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Originally Posted By rob78:


This one came from the cmp. I think he said it was 5-7 years ago.

The stock has some gouges in, pretty good ones. I'm not going to bother cleaning or sealing it.  It's an honest rifle and  the dents and dings add some character.

I got a little excited when all the small part numbers were SA and mfg within the same year.

Trying to revive the leather scabbard.  Slowly conditioning with Pecards.  Hoping to get it pliable enough for the rifle to fit.
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Originally Posted By rob78:
Originally Posted By BuddyChryst:
Nice!

I got a CMP fairly recently. It was in slightly better shape, but a complete hodgepodge of parts. I think it had IH, Winchester, and maybe H&R too in a Springfield receiver.

Still, shoots nice. Enjoy yours!  Pretty damned cool.


This one came from the cmp. I think he said it was 5-7 years ago.

The stock has some gouges in, pretty good ones. I'm not going to bother cleaning or sealing it.  It's an honest rifle and  the dents and dings add some character.

I got a little excited when all the small part numbers were SA and mfg within the same year.

Trying to revive the leather scabbard.  Slowly conditioning with Pecards.  Hoping to get it pliable enough for the rifle to fit.


I was happy to get a Springfield receiver, just because I tease my buddy that has an SAI M1A. Don’t miss a chance to tell him I have a real Springfield. I’d rather more of the parts were matching manufacturer like yours, but I’m still happy.

Enjoy shooting it!
Link Posted: 9/18/2022 8:56:56 PM EST
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[Last Edit: Trollslayer] [#18]
You just came here and posted all those pictures to brag and make us jealous.




It worked.

I'm especially jealous of the bayonet.

Thanks for sharing.  It's a beauty!
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 12:35:26 AM EST
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I own two from CMP.  You did real good on the bayonet!
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Originally Posted By cornhskr:
I own two from CMP.  You did real good on the bayonet!
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ETA:  I got my C&R to have my rifles delivered to my door, because WA state is fucked by liberals.
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 6:18:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By roninsan:
I can't see the bayonet very clearly, but those old sword bayonets were worth a premium. See them mostly on 03A3's a trench shotguns. You're M1 looks like a fine example to me. It appears to have a leaded receiver based on the two tone color on the rear, but that's just from re-heat treating. Shouldn't be an issue as I recall. Nice rifle scabbard too! Those are pricey! I'd say you made out pretty well.
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Thank you for the info on the receiver.  I didn't know that and appreciate the information.

I just thought the bayonet was a nice addition, so I bought it.  

I'd like to find some original straps for the scabbard.  I just applied the second coat of pecards to the leather...its gonna take time since the leather is really hard.  It's softening some, but I'm going slow so I don't change the color.
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 6:19:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Who’s cartouche is on the stock?
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It's got a P on the grip.  Where would other cartouches be?  If they aren't gouged up, I'll find them.
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 6:22:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
You just came here and posted all those pictures to brag and make us jealous.




It worked.

I'm especially jealous of the bayonet.

Thanks for sharing.  It's a beauty!
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I was pretty excited to luck into a locally owned M1 from the cmp.  Even moreso since I know the prior owner well and he's trustworthy.  I rarely if ever buy a firearm or vehicle without researching it to death so I took a leap of faith on this one.  Just glad I didn't end up with a POS.

Link Posted: 9/19/2022 11:08:22 AM EST
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You lucky schmoe
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 11:22:46 AM EST
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Nice.  Congrats
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Originally Posted By rob78:
I took a leap of faith on this one.  Just glad I didn't end up with a POS.

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You did extremely well for a blind purchase.
Link Posted: 9/19/2022 1:11:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:


Springfield also made an open arrowed rear sight if I am not mistaken.
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Correct but that one looks quite rough so it "could" be a WRA windage knob.

To me it also looks like it may be a type I that someone had put a dab of weld on the end of the pinion to keep it in place.  Which is both a shame and a pretty neat way of fixing the problem the Type I's had.

Personally I would not removed the rear sight as it may never go back together.

The front sight has a later style hex head in it as well.  The early ones had more space around them as they were meant to have a tamper seal over the head.  But with the gas cylinder being cut like it is it makes sense the hex bolt was changed.

Would love to see the guts on this one.  It looks like a wartime field rebuild rather than a post war factory rebuild.
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 8:15:02 AM EST
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Nice Garand!  The Lockbar is a nice addition.  Congrats on your first Garand.
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 8:33:04 AM EST
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You did really well.
6 digit with lock bars, possibly the original barrel and an og bayo for 150. wow.
If he didn’t overcharge you for the rifle you should buy him lunch.

Link Posted: 9/20/2022 2:41:15 PM EST
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Nicely done...yours was made a couple months after mine.

Always loved the super deep serial stampings on the SA receivers.
Link Posted: 9/21/2022 6:00:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By svt40:



Correct but that one looks quite rough so it "could" be a WRA windage knob.

To me it also looks like it may be a type I that someone had put a dab of weld on the end of the pinion to keep it in place.  Which is both a shame and a pretty neat way of fixing the problem the Type I's had.

Personally I would not removed the rear sight as it may never go back together.

The front sight has a later style hex head in it as well.  The early ones had more space around them as they were meant to have a tamper seal over the head.  But with the gas cylinder being cut like it is it makes sense the hex bolt was changed.

Would love to see the guts on this one.  It looks like a wartime field rebuild rather than a post war factory rebuild.
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Originally Posted By svt40:
Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:


Springfield also made an open arrowed rear sight if I am not mistaken.



Correct but that one looks quite rough so it "could" be a WRA windage knob.

To me it also looks like it may be a type I that someone had put a dab of weld on the end of the pinion to keep it in place.  Which is both a shame and a pretty neat way of fixing the problem the Type I's had.

Personally I would not removed the rear sight as it may never go back together.

The front sight has a later style hex head in it as well.  The early ones had more space around them as they were meant to have a tamper seal over the head.  But with the gas cylinder being cut like it is it makes sense the hex bolt was changed.

Would love to see the guts on this one.  It looks like a wartime field rebuild rather than a post war factory rebuild.


I'll get it apart and take pictures of the guts.  I'll take all the information I can on this.

Just not real sure what I should looking for other than the numbers on the parts.
Link Posted: 9/21/2022 6:02:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnParker55:
You did really well.
6 digit with lock bars, possibly the original barrel and an og bayo for 150. wow.
If he didn’t overcharge you for the rifle you should buy him lunch.

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I paid $1,050 for the rifle which I thought was fair.  Again, flying almost completely blind on the purchase.  I figured that even a POS M1 would be worth that much.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:33:07 PM EST
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As stated earlier, need to see any stock cartouches. If it has any, they will be on the left side of the stock under the elevation drum. Also, is the gas plug a single slot or poppet type?
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 6:11:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MiG-21:
As stated earlier, need to see any stock cartouches. If it has any, they will be on the left side of the stock under the elevation drum. Also, is the gas plug a single slot or poppet type?
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Thanks. I'll get some pics of both and post them here.

Work has been a little crazy and I haven't been able to break the rifle down again and post what I see.  But I'll get on it.
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