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Posted: 5/18/2022 3:40:33 PM EDT
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also seemed like they had not settled on the exact loading of the new cartridge. so looks like there will be some tweaks to it. which is interesting.
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Posted: 5/18/2022 5:13:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R: also seemed like they had not settled on the exact loading of the new cartridge. so looks like there will be some tweaks to it. which is interesting. Sig says the ammo hit requirement goals at 80kpsi, but that the Spear can handle up to 120k right now. That's a lot of headroom. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 12:19:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: Sig says the ammo hit requirement goals at 80kpsi, but that the Spear can handle up to 120k right now. That's a lot of headroom. o my! Another point they maid was they had run out of ways to "improve " on the 5.56. sounds like they have ways to play with this in many ways.. even changing up the projectile for better BC.. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 10:50:42 PM EDT
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Anyone have the weight of a complete, ready to fire, hybrid cased round?
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Posted: 5/20/2022 2:26:05 AM EDT
[#5]
Looks like the .277 Fury specs are close to the .270 WSM but still getting 3000fps out of a 16" barrel via the 80000psi. The law of physics is what it is and recoil is going to be substantially more than what the current soldier is use to dealing with when using an M4.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:49:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man: Anyone have the weight of a complete, ready to fire, hybrid cased round? I can weigh one when I get off work. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 9:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SMFdarkangel: I can weigh one when I get off work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SMFdarkangel: Originally Posted By patriot_man: Anyone have the weight of a complete, ready to fire, hybrid cased round? I can weigh one when I get off work. Thank you! 
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:53:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man: Anyone have the weight of a complete, ready to fire, hybrid cased round? 23 grams. 150 grain 277 Sig Fury Accubond Bonded Polymer tip |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 2:35:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordhuck: 23 grams. 150 grain 277 Sig Fury Accubond Bonded Polymer tip Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordhuck: Originally Posted By patriot_man: Anyone have the weight of a complete, ready to fire, hybrid cased round? 23 grams. 150 grain 277 Sig Fury Accubond Bonded Polymer tip Thank you! |
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Posted: 6/4/2022 1:39:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: doolz]
[#10]
 Sig MCX Spear - US Army NGSW - Disassembly, Live Fire & Discussion Time mark: 9:52 From the reassembly point.... Anyone else besides me think that the recoil spring not being one unit with the op rod will be a downer? |
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Posted: 6/6/2022 12:56:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Any word about release date yet? The commercial production line Spear that is.
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:58:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: This summer for both. Coregon will the 13 inch version be available without the suppressor? Barrels and accessories to follow ? |
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Posted: 7/17/2022 4:25:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: doolz]
[#13]
 The US Army's new Belt fed Machine gun. The M250 is replacing the M249 ETA: I know it's not the Spear, but keeping with the tune. |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 7:52:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Y4JLUCrFwETA: I know it's not the Spear, but keeping with the tune. I know a lot of people argue about the Spear, if it was needed, or if it was materially better enough compared to their favorite AR-10 sized gun. But the MG68 is genuinely a game changer and I'm glad GT asked the question about replacing the M240 as well. You have a weapon that has superior ballistics to the 7.62 of the M240 but weighs less than the 5.56 M249 and doesn't have any more recoil. Plus it has all those usability and ergonomic improvements to boot. Granted, the MG338 weighs less than even the lightened M240L. So there's that too. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2022 9:44:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R: o my! Another point they maid was they had run out of ways to "improve " on the 5.56. sounds like they have ways to play with this in many ways.. even changing up the projectile for better BC.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R: Originally Posted By Croak: Sig says the ammo hit requirement goals at 80kpsi, but that the Spear can handle up to 120k right now. That's a lot of headroom. o my! Another point they maid was they had run out of ways to "improve " on the 5.56. sounds like they have ways to play with this in many ways.. even changing up the projectile for better BC.. What about the Knox high-capacity ammo? Straight wall 223 with some kind of ridiculous high pressure loading, could load 40-50 rounds in a 30 round 5.56 mag, just a touch heavier. IIRC, they had to download it to prevent having the case rim torn off. Take that and combine it with Sig's hybrid case, lot more they could do with it. |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 4:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kgknight1037: Coregon will the 13 inch version be available without the suppressor? Barrels and accessories to follow ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kgknight1037: Originally Posted By coregon: This summer for both. Coregon will the 13 inch version be available without the suppressor? Barrels and accessories to follow ? Yes and yes. |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Yes and yes. Thank you for the response. The M250 does look pretty awesome and it seems to offer an improvement. Time will tell. |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 10:32:54 PM EDT
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WV, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2022 10:39:40 PM EDT
[#19]
I might go half retard and buy a factory SBR w/ suppressor if they sell that configuration and it isn't full retard expensive.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 12:17:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Headspacer]
[#20]
@coregon to the white courtesy phone please.
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Posted: 8/19/2022 8:27:42 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headspacer: @coregon to the white courtesy phone please. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Carnac_the_Magnificent.jpg You’re not going to get a date from me. But it’s close. Very close. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 3:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: You're not going to get a date from me. But it's close. Very close.  |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 3:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySIG cleaned me out this month, a P226, then more magazines, then grips, then a Procut slide, then a Custom Shop bill, then a Romeo2, and a bunch of that sweet blem 9mm JHP ammo. Then they release the Macro. Bastards. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 6:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: SIG cleaned me out this month, a P226, then more magazines, then grips, then a Procut slide, then a Custom Shop bill, then a Romeo2, and a bunch of that sweet blem 9mm JHP ammo. Then they release the Macro. Bastards. P320 XTen yesterday, some ammo, a Romeo2, a 6.75" barrel last month, and then whenever the Spear comes out. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 6:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: You’re not going to get a date from me. But it’s close. Very close. Thanks for chiming in. Anyone care to guess retail? I'll guess north of $3k. Melted plastic awaits.... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 8:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: P320 XTen yesterday, some ammo, a Romeo2, a 6.75" barrel last month, and then whenever the Spear comes out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Originally Posted By Croak: SIG cleaned me out this month, a P226, then more magazines, then grips, then a Procut slide, then a Custom Shop bill, then a Romeo2, and a bunch of that sweet blem 9mm JHP ammo. Then they release the Macro. Bastards. P320 XTen yesterday, some ammo, a Romeo2, a 6.75" barrel last month, and then whenever the Spear comes out. Not to get off topic but what do you think of the XTen? I'm thinking of getting one and selling off my last Glock (G20). |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 10:02:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lordhuck]
[#27]
Sure, I'll take a guess.
$3499.00 Base model $4499.00 for 20" marksman or whatever. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 10:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: Not to get off topic but what do you think of the XTen? I'm thinking of getting one and selling off my last Glock (G20). |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 10:24:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Headspacer]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordhuck: Sure, I'll take a guess. $3499.00 Base model $4499.00 for 20" marksman or whatever. I'd agree. That's about parity w/ Fn Scar pricing. Give me a 13" pistol/sbr in 308 and a 13" 277 bbl. $4500? This could get outta hand quickly 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 10:27:27 PM EDT
[#30]
$2550 for Spear Patrol
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Posted: 8/20/2022 12:05:40 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: $2550 for Spear Patrol Where do you see this? |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 8:10:47 AM EDT
[#32]
My guess is you won't see them below MSRP, whatever that is, for quite some time.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2022 1:28:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Where do you see this?  |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 1:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: https://i.imgur.com/EkWLlwk_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2022 6:29:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
[#35]
LOL. Hey it could be accurate, or even cheaper. IDK why everyone is so hyped to start assumptions at way over Scar 17S prices, with a known Sig rep here no less, shaddup already or theyre gonna mark it up more if they think everyone'll pay it
This shit isnt imported its just another MCX, sheesh guys Also didnt the St John guy even generally state a rough price estimate in one of the Reeves vids, been so long now I cant recall.. feels like it |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 3:20:15 AM EDT
[#36]
If you search for Spear on Sig's site, you get their somewhat-funny not found page. I wonder what's in the web page hopper.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 9:26:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
[#37]
Oh snap. Could this be it?
By the way, is it totally random which Sig dealer can get a rifle fastest, or are there some go-to preferred ones to try first? My local garage office FFL guys don’t seem to be real confident in their speed of acquisition so to speak, always warning me it could take a while. Cabela’s seems too big and sloppy but not sure |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 12:17:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: goloud]
[#38]
  Y gif no work? |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 1:05:10 PM EDT
[#39]
idk. this forum is clunky asf. They should switch to xenforo or somth
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Posted: 8/24/2022 7:50:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: idk. this forum is clunky asf. They should switch to xenforo or somth This forum is so archaic and broken it has become a source of pride. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 6:05:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: This forum is so archaic and broken it has become a source of pride. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Originally Posted By GrAvril: idk. this forum is clunky asf. They should switch to xenforo or somth This forum is so archaic and broken it has become a source of pride. Well, it's not the 1911 of forums, but it's close. :) |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 10:54:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
[#42]
12-18 months huh.. we're almost at month 21 here. Cmaaaaann
edit: oh that vid was from summer 2020. Sheesh if both Raptor & standard were on the wall which would you choose? I really think barrel kits will remain unobtainium so you could be stuck with Raptor mode indefinitely |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 11:19:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: coregon]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: 12-18 months huh.. we're almost at month 21 here. Cmaaaaann edit: oh that vid was from summer 2020. Sheesh if both Raptor & standard were on the wall which would you choose? I really think barrel kits will remain unobtainium so you could be stuck with Raptor mode indefinitely Who said 12-18 months? Are you referencing the Jason St John video? If so, he has nothing to do with the commercial side and really spoke out of turn. I love the dude, but he's in a completely different division. That said, Spear is close enough to smell it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 11:53:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Who said 12-18 months? Are you referencing the Jason St John video? If so, he has nothing to do with the commercial side and really spoke out of turn. I love the dude, but he's in a completely different division. That said, Spear is close enough to smell it. Hear you, and yes that's the one. Being more on the commercial side can you speak for availability / distribution at dealers, is the release purely random or is it kind of like car dealerships/beer distributors with priority given to certain shops? If it finally does release I don't want to miss out |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 11:56:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Hear you, and yes that's the one. Being more on the commercial side can you speak for availability / distribution at dealers, is the release purely random or is it kind of like car dealerships/beer distributors with priority given to certain shops? If it finally does release I don't want to miss out Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By coregon: Who said 12-18 months? Are you referencing the Jason St John video? If so, he has nothing to do with the commercial side and really spoke out of turn. I love the dude, but he's in a completely different division. That said, Spear is close enough to smell it. Hear you, and yes that's the one. Being more on the commercial side can you speak for availability / distribution at dealers, is the release purely random or is it kind of like car dealerships/beer distributors with priority given to certain shops? If it finally does release I don't want to miss out It will be allocated, as most of our new products are. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 12:27:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Anyone know any Sig dealers known for getting new stuff in on time at release?
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Posted: 8/25/2022 1:04:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coregon]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Anyone know any Sig dealers known for getting new stuff in on time at release? I wasn't trying to be coy, I just havent built the initial allocation out yet. There will be a much wider footprint of dealers receive the commercial variant, than say the NGSW Limited-Release combo that we did earlier this year. It will be going to direct accounts, distributor accounts, large box/retail accounts, etc. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 1:47:24 PM EDT
[#48]
I would knock over my own mother to get one on release day.
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Posted: 8/25/2022 2:17:15 PM EDT
[#49]
All g coregon, I am more optimistic now. Just reminded me of chasing bourbon releases around town during holidays & always losing to the inner circle group chat/ homie hookup bs... tiresome
Originally Posted By JAG2955: I would knock over my own mother to get one on release day. I think we're gonna make it Jag Just have to decide, Raptor or regular Spear?? Still not sure |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 2:23:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: All g coregon, I am more optimistic now. Just reminded me of chasing bourbon releases around town during holidays & always losing to the inner circle group chat/ homie hookup bs... tiresome I think we're gonna make it Jag Just have to decide, Raptor or regular Spear?? Still not sure Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: All g coregon, I am more optimistic now. Just reminded me of chasing bourbon releases around town during holidays & always losing to the inner circle group chat/ homie hookup bs... tiresome Originally Posted By JAG2955: I would knock over my own mother to get one on release day. I think we're gonna make it Jag Just have to decide, Raptor or regular Spear?? Still not sure Raptor is later. It will not be released simultaneously with the first config. |
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