

Posted: 11/13/2020 10:31:44 PM EST
So, what would such a unicorn be worth in the wild?
Nothing rare, just an Inland, but assuming it went overseas during WWII and then got back into the states without coming through an importer. Semi-auto only. Just another M1 Carbine or worth a bit more? |
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Quoted: So, what would such a unicorn be worth in the wild? Nothing rare, just an Inland, but assuming it went overseas during WWII and then got back into the states without coming through an importer. Semi-auto only. Just another M1 Carbine or worth a bit more? View Quote ![]() |
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Could be a DCM carbine.I don't know what current value might be......
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Not enough info. There are quite a few non import marked M-1 Carbines "in the wild" in the US, either bringbacks, or sold surplus through the DCM then later by CMP Program.
Even the ones brought back to the US through the CMP program will not have "import" marks unless the country we loaned them to put their own markings on them like the "Bavarian Carbines" have on them. Decent condition non import marked USGI Carbines can run anywhere from $1000-1500 in the current market depend on condition. |
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So guns that were sold through CMP that didn't require a re-build or armory work wouldn't have anything other than original stamps? With the ones that are pretty beat up coming in now I just didn't think about ones that would have been sold a long time ago.
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And even if you had one that was imported commercially, there's nothing preventing you from replacing the barrel with one that does not have an import mark.
More important is the overall condition and if all the parts are in Inland. Inland was the biggest manufacturer so they're not real rare but if it's all matching it's worth more. My wife just retired from IBM and I got her and IVM oh, I was just happy that the receiver in the barrel matched and both said IBM on them. Most that went through Civilian Marksmanship Program and any rebuilding by the military have many different manufacturers parts |
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Quoted: So guns that were sold through CMP that didn't require a re-build or armory work wouldn't have anything other than original stamps? With the ones that are pretty beat up coming in now I just didn't think about ones that would have been sold a long time ago. View Quote Unless they were imported back into the US by a private company, A M1 Carbine isn't going to have any additional non USGI markings on it. [other then the aforementioned one like Bavarian PDs and such] Tons of them were sold back in the day in the US, then they dried up, then they [CMP] sold some a few years back. |
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Lots of "Blue Sky" 1980's-90's imported carbines got rebarreled .......
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You can’t buy any M1 carbine without import stamps for under $1000. From that base it depends on condition and the parts it’s made of.
If the barrel is shot or junk - subtract $200 |
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Quoted: So guns that were sold through CMP that didn't require a re-build or armory work wouldn't have anything other than original stamps? With the ones that are pretty beat up coming in now I just didn't think about ones that would have been sold a long time ago. View Quote That was the military's standard. DCM sold arsenaled / stored firearms. CPM M1 carbines have been military assistance returns. There's a few oddities in those returns but a miraculously untouched ever carbine would have been auctioned & have CPM paper. It's either a 'converted to private ownership' carbine or someone "corrected" it or a CPM unicorn. Without verified provence it's conjecture. |
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Quoted: And even if you had one that was imported commercially, there's nothing preventing you from replacing the barrel with one that does not have an import mark. More important is the overall condition and if all the parts are in Inland. Inland was the biggest manufacturer so they're not real rare but if it's all matching it's worth more. My wife just retired from IBM and I got her and IVM oh, I was just happy that the receiver in the barrel matched and both said IBM on them. Most that went through Civilian Marksmanship Program and any rebuilding by the military have many different manufacturers parts View Quote Details "None of the ten primary contractors manufactured all of the parts that went on their carbines. The majority of parts were manufactured by hundreds of companies that served as subcontractors to each prime contractor." |
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I have a Blue Rockola... normally I wouldn’t by a Blue Sky import, but I really wanted a Rockola and the price was right.
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Quoted: If it was rebarreled with a USGI barrel then it's impossible to tell if it was a "Blue" then. View Quote I've probably rebarreled 7 or 8 of them.....two actually due to distortion of the bore from the marking.......Still have 2 Winchesters and an IBM.....They ran about 250-275 a pop when I was buying them......a proper barrel on Ebay was another 100 bucks...... I wish I had kept them all.....they would now be suddenly 1600.00 "non import marked" guns...... ![]() |
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What is a 1945 manufactured Inland all matching carbine worth on today’s market?
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Quoted: I've probably rebarreled 7 or 8 of them.....two actually due to distortion of the bore from the marking.......Still have 2 Winchesters and an IBM.....They ran about 250-275 a pop when I was buying them......a proper barrel on Ebay was another 100 bucks...... I wish I had kept them all.....they would now be suddenly 1600.00 "non import marked" guns...... ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If it was rebarreled with a USGI barrel then it's impossible to tell if it was a "Blue" then. I've probably rebarreled 7 or 8 of them.....two actually due to distortion of the bore from the marking.......Still have 2 Winchesters and an IBM.....They ran about 250-275 a pop when I was buying them......a proper barrel on Ebay was another 100 bucks...... I wish I had kept them all.....they would now be suddenly 1600.00 "non import marked" guns...... ![]() You ain't kidding there. I have a 44 Inland barrel off of one of my Carbines pictured that I keep in case I ever want to put it on my 44 Inland receiver that was a Blue Sky import marked Carbines. I doubt I will, it's my main USGI shooting Carbine which is why I had a new barrel installed last year |
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Quoted: The chances of a DCM-sold non-foreign use M1 carbine never having gone through the postwar upgrade (sights & bayonet lug) approach absolute 0. That was the military's standard. DCM sold arsenaled / stored firearms. CPM M1 carbines have been military assistance returns. There's a few oddities in those returns but a miraculously untouched ever carbine would have been auctioned & have CPM paper. It's either a 'converted to private ownership' carbine or someone "corrected" it or a CPM unicorn. Without verified provence it's conjecture. View Quote Also many CMP white bag carbines came out with only rear sight upgrades....some weren't upgrades but originally were later guns with adjustable sights. Then you have '45 era guns that were built with both sights and bayonet lug. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Here is my 5.7M Winchester. Don't think it has ever even had a sling or oiler on it. |
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Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/20200422_145841_jpg-1694475.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0735__1__JPG-1694482.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0788__1__JPG-1694484.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0729__1__JPG-1694487.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0732__1__JPG-1694489.JPG Here is my 5.7M Winchester. Don't think it has ever even had a sling or oiler on it. View Quote Sweet looking Carbine |
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Quoted: Quite a few NRA carbines came out with the early features. Also many CMP white bag carbines came out with only rear sight upgrades....some weren't upgrades but originally were later guns with adjustable sights. Then you have '45 era guns that were built with both sights and bayonet lug. View Quote All the CMP M1 carbines have been foreign returns. |
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Quoted: "CMP white bag"? No you mean DCM? (CMP =/= DCM). All the CMP M1 carbines have been foreign returns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quite a few NRA carbines came out with the early features. Also many CMP white bag carbines came out with only rear sight upgrades....some weren't upgrades but originally were later guns with adjustable sights. Then you have '45 era guns that were built with both sights and bayonet lug. All the CMP M1 carbines have been foreign returns. Then there were the "white bag" VCI carbines. BRAND NEW from rebuild in late 40s or so. May or may not have had bayo lugs added (usually not). There were a lot less of these. Carbine Club guys got first pic on them. I only got a few of them...all as new. |
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