Knights HK MP5 RAS Rail

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Knights HK MP5 RAS Rail

Posted: 1/29/2018 8:16:14 PM EDT

Don't know if anyone else is looking for one, but Operation Parts just opened their pre orders for their next order of KAC HK MP5 RAS rails.

OP KAC HK MP5 RAS RAIL

Posted: 1/29/2018 8:20:21 PM EDT

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One left.

Posted: 1/29/2018 8:48:16 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/29/2018 8:58:51 PM EDT

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Am I missing something here or are those just ridiculously expensive outdated quad rails?

Posted: 1/29/2018 9:18:48 PM EDT

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And the holy grail is just another cup.

And an original Shelby Cobra is just another outdated, underpowered sportster.

And a P-51 Mustang is just another outdated airplane.

As someone who owns an original HK MP5 RAS.... the answer to your question is mostly yes, but technically they are only tri-rails.

Posted: 1/29/2018 9:24:19 PM EDT

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You got it, but add KAC sauce.

I run a Surefire M63 on mine.

Posted: 1/29/2018 10:03:15 PM EDT

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Same reason people want the kac rails for the ar-15s or other various parts to build clone guns. The difference is that the mp5 rails are far more rare than most of the other clone parts. They have been being listed at over a thousand dollars on the used market.

For what its worth the b&t and surefire tri rails both go for around 300 bucks as well. The surefire lighted front ends go from like 300 to 600 bucks. The MP5 is an expensive platform.

Posted: 1/29/2018 10:39:54 PM EDT

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I paid about $120 for each of my Surefire rails. One was new.
It was good of the OP to share the link though. Many people want the KAC rails.

Posted: 1/30/2018 12:26:53 PM EDT

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KAC is finally waking up and realizing there is still good demand for their legacy stuff. Please $345 for one of these rails is a great price!

Posted: 1/30/2018 3:29:50 PM EDT

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I think KAC has always known that, they've just experienced great demand for current/military products for a long time. Now that demand is down, they're willing to entertain bulk orders on older designs.
The price is too high for me, and what they went for on the secondary market while discontinued is just crazy, but to each their own. I'm very happy with my Surefire rails. They utilize a better front attachment method, in my humble opinion.

Posted: 1/30/2018 4:00:54 PM EDT

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I think KAC has always known that, they've just experienced great demand for current/military products for a long time. Now that demand is down, they're willing to entertain bulk orders on older designs.
The price is too high for me, and what they went for on the secondary market while discontinued is just crazy, but to each their own. I'm very happy with my Surefire rails. They utilize a better front attachment method, in my humble opinion.

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I tend to agree actually. I had an opportunity last year to pick up a surefire rail for around $100. I should have done it.

I did put my name down for one of these KAC rails, but it’s only because I figured I might use it and that compared to the prices they were going for, this is a bargain. Honestly, I’d rather run a surefire foreend if it was possible to use a cab with one

Posted: 1/30/2018 8:21:31 PM EDT

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Also happy with Surefire Rails.

Posted: 2/3/2018 4:12:12 PM EDT

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With all the clones coming out now, They'd be crazy not to make a decent run of these.

Posted: 2/4/2018 8:58:28 PM EDT

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Compared to B&T and other HK parts prices, it's a good deal. KAC has always been expensive, this isn't more so than others.

Posted: 2/4/2018 9:56:17 PM EDT

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The B&T rail is $300.
So you're saying KAC products are always high, and that makes this rail a good deal?

Posted: 2/4/2018 11:46:42 PM EDT

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They are limited runs of these, and with them selling for almost $1K and the MP5 market as big as it is you're not going to lose your money on a KAC MP5 rail and you have a chance to potentially own something that will appreciate.

Don't buy one if you don't think they aren't worth it. I've seen a few dealers sell their allotment in hours. The demand is there.

Posted: 2/6/2018 11:23:34 AM EDT

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These are back in stock for pre-order. Just received the email about 30 minutes ago.

KAC RAS

Posted: 2/6/2018 6:24:34 PM EDT

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Ordered mine

Have a Surefire MP5 rail now, but all of my HKs wear KAC RAS except for the 9mm, have to fix that.

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:35:10 PM EDT

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Can't wait for mine to arrive. This was a very good opportunity to pick up a brand new one for about a third of what a used one goes for, and I figured a genuine HK deserves a nice KAC rail.

Posted: 2/10/2018 6:23:06 PM EDT

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Yes. It’s a great deal. I saw more than one go for $1000+ on GB.

Plus, you can add an optic rail for ultimate awesomeness.

Posted: 2/11/2018 1:23:49 PM EDT

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Are the optic rails in Stock anywhere?

Posted: 2/12/2018 12:17:38 AM EDT

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Knights has them in stock right now. Not too much more than Operation Parts

Posted: 2/12/2018 8:52:23 AM EDT

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Just snagged one myself from the KAC store. Might not be long till there out.

Posted: 2/12/2018 6:34:15 PM EDT

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There shipping

Posted: 2/12/2018 9:20:03 PM EDT

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Yeah, i just got an email today from Operations Parts with my tracking number! WOOT!

Posted: 2/12/2018 9:31:04 PM EDT

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Have the listed / shipped the HK 91 rail yet?

I haven't gotten notification that it is available for preorder.

My Norwegian AG-3 clone might have to take a hit in the authenticity department.

Posted: 2/13/2018 8:56:42 AM EDT

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That means I should be seeing something any day now. Mount that thing up and share some pics!

Posted: 2/13/2018 9:03:30 AM EDT

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Have the listed / shipped the HK 91 rail yet?

I haven't gotten notification that it is available for preorder.

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Haven’t seen anything about those rails for sale yet any shipped yet. But keep watching the sites for the pre orders.

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That means I should be seeing something any day now. Mount that thing up and share some pics!

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Don’t own a MP5 yet. Someday and I’ll have the rail and upper optics mount in hand when it happens.

Posted: 2/13/2018 9:26:13 AM EDT

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Haven’t seen anything about those rails for sale yet any shipped yet. But keep watching the sites for the pre orders.

Don’t own a MP5 yet. Someday and I’ll have the rail and upper optics mount in hand when it happens.

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Well I'm the other way around, but only for a few more days since the rails have started shipping. I've been wanting one of these for quite some time as I didn't want to go with a claw-type mount that would permanently mar the new finish on my gun.

Posted: 2/14/2018 9:24:36 PM EDT

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Tracking shows mine arrived today!

Installed it. It was a little tight at the receiver, but still was able to get it to fit.

Posted: 2/15/2018 9:13:51 PM EDT

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Installed it. It was a little tight at the receiver, but still was able to get it to fit.

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tight is an understatement lol, i wasn't paying enough attention and gouged the hell out of my receiver installing mine.

Posted: 2/19/2018 12:31:18 PM EDT

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Yes it was extremely tight. I tried using a piece of paper between the rails and the receiver, still managed to scuff up the paint on my receiver.

Posted: 2/19/2018 11:41:57 PM EDT

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I greased the hell out of my D54 receiver before I installed the KAC RIS.

Posted: 2/23/2018 6:29:17 AM EDT

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Just got the KAC optics rail for the RAS. Super tight as well.

Posted: 2/23/2018 10:59:32 AM EDT

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Nice-looking setup there!

Is it just the lighting in the picture or is KAC still putting out parts with purple anodizing?

Posted: 2/23/2018 12:20:21 PM EDT

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Is it just the lighting in the picture or is KAC still putting out parts with purple anodizing?

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Just got the KAC optics rail for the RAS. Super tight as well.

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Nice-looking setup there!

Is it just the lighting in the picture or is KAC still putting out parts with purple anodizing?

Mine is not from the new batch and is definitely purple tinted.

Posted: 2/23/2018 12:52:47 PM EDT

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Mine is not from the new batch and is definitely purple tinted.

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Hmm.

I have a M4 RAS that I bought probably sometime around 2006 or so that also has a purple hue and have always wondered what the deal is with that. Guess I'll see what my railed mount looks like when it arrives.

Posted: 2/23/2018 11:14:18 PM EDT

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Mine is not from the new batch and is definitely purple tinted.

https://i.imgur.com/kuiLnI9.jpg

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Any chance you could do a picture through the sights of that? Wondering how the rail sets up the optic there.

Posted: 2/23/2018 11:15:42 PM EDT

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I paid about $120 for each of my Surefire rails. One was new.
It was good of the OP to share the link though. Many people want the KAC rails.

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I have a Surefire rail as well - I remember it being in the $100 (+/- $25) range. I started to look for one of those and couldn't find any. Ended up with a KAC RAS.

Posted: 2/23/2018 11:30:25 PM EDT

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Any chance you could do a picture through the sights of that? Wondering how the rail sets up the optic there.

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Mine is not from the new batch and is definitely purple tinted.

https://i.imgur.com/kuiLnI9.jpg

Any chance you could do a picture through the sights of that? Wondering how the rail sets up the optic there.

Maybe this weekend.

I can tell you it is not cowitness (at all). It does work really well, at least as well as any of the "low profile" HK mounts.

With that being said, the best HK mounts in my opinion are the rear sight RMR replacement or the Trijicon HK ACOG mount (TA03). The TA03 is excellent and allows use of the iron sights.

Posted: 2/24/2018 12:59:25 AM EDT

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I'm generally not a fan of rails on MP5, but if you must rail, this is the rail to rail with.

Posted: 3/1/2018 1:39:56 PM EDT

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I really didn't want to install mine because I didn't want to break up the clean lines of the MP5.

It does feel better in the hand, the thickness at the front actually helps.

Posted: 3/1/2018 1:48:35 PM EDT

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Surefire begs to differ.

Posted: 3/5/2018 9:40:18 AM EDT

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Got back from a coyote hunting trip at the property yesterday and my birthday present to myself was waiting for me. Installed the MP5 RAS & 99049 MP5 RAS Rail Mount. Luckily the 99049 doesn't look too purple. Still wonder why it is that KAC seems to have a tough time with their anodizing, unless I'm missing something here.

Next will be an Aimpoint Comp M5.

Posted: 3/5/2018 10:19:14 AM EDT

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I have a kac rail and optic mount, no mp5

Posted: 3/5/2018 6:37:57 PM EDT

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You know what you need to do...

Posted: 3/5/2018 7:11:30 PM EDT

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All of my mid 2000s vintage RAS, RAS Long and RAS MRE all had a purple hue, all of the newer M4 RASs I bought recently had been black though, so is the MP5 RAS I just got.

Posted: 3/6/2018 8:23:01 PM EDT

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All of my mid 2000s vintage RAS, RAS Long and RAS MRE all had a purple hue, all of the newer M4 RASs I bought recently had been black though, so is the MP5 RAS I just got.

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old new stock maybe?

Posted: 3/6/2018 9:46:42 PM EDT

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The pic I posted is of my early 2000 vintage FF RAS MRE, most of my KAC RASs I bought at the time had a purple tint. The MP5 RAS I just got is all black. Not sure if the MP5 Aimpoint mount is from old stock, didn't they stop making MP5 RAS for a long time and the rarity made them so desirable? I imagine the Aimpoint mount might be from old stock as well, don't think it could be used with other railed handguards where the 3 and 9 o'clock rails don't extend rearward as much as MP5 RAS.

Posted: 4/30/2018 4:39:47 PM EDT

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I really didn't want to install mine because I didn't want to break up the clean lines of the MP5.

It does feel better in the hand, the thickness at the front actually helps.

https://i.imgur.com/QogzIGY.jpg
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That is precisely what she said.

That is a clean MP5, I am jealous and can not wait to get mines....

Posted: 7/4/2018 2:39:14 PM EDT

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