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Posted: 2/18/2021 6:11:37 PM EDT
Looking for a shorter suppressor to put on my 5.56 SBR. 10.5” and 12”. Yes I understand it’s not gonna be quiet, looking for short, light and low blowback.
Looking at the following ones and wanted some input especially if you have experience with them on 5.56 SBRs. Rugged Radiant Rugged Micro 30 TBAC Dominus K Q Jumbo Shrimp |
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For 5.56 K cans, I think the Rugged Micro and YHM Turbo K are hard to beat. The nice thing about the Micro is that if it turns out you do not actually like K cans, you can run it as an S can instead.
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Here is my Turbo K on a SBR.
Not on your list but gives an idea what to expect with a 10.5 inch barrel. Note : Its a screen shot of a video which is why it looks a bit off. Attached File |
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Can't speak for any of those cans specifically. I run a griffin recce5 on some of my SBRs and pistols. 10.5" and 8" 223. Its quiet enough that the shot doesnt ring your ears, even with short barrels.
Its 6" long and a bit under 1.5" diameter. 10.5" AR with griffin recce 5 mod3 suppressor Galil ACE .223 Suppressed |
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I have both a Radiant and a Micro, both have been shot on my DD barreled 10.3" SBR. No adjustable gas block. I have not shot either on the K configuration on that rifle. The Micro has more flash than the Radiant. I have shot the Micro at night, and the Radiant at dusk. Both through a 6.8 SPCs. You can see the flash on both, though it wasn't terrible. The Radiant has a slightly better tone IMO, maybe a hair quieter, but they are both going to be loud at that short of a barrel. I can shoot a couple rounds through the Micro without hearing protection before it becomes uncomfortable. I prefer the Micro on my SBRs, just because of the extra durability and slightly shorter length. I don't notice any practical weight difference between the two once they are on the gun. If you are planning on running them in the short configuration, it maybe worth looking elsewhere for a true K can. They will be loud and extremely flashy due to the lack of baffles in the main short section. I always use both in the full configuration. Personally, I don't think losing the small amount of the length is worth the trade off of a louder, flashier can. I would look at the Rugged Razor as well, if you like the Micro, and don't plan on running it in the short configuration. From some YouTube videos, there is a tone difference between the two, but I personally haven't shot a Razor.
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Quoted: I have both a Radiant and a Micro, both have been shot on my DD barreled 10.3" SBR. No adjustable gas block. I have not shot either on the K configuration on that rifle. The Micro has more flash than the Radiant. I have shot the Micro at night, and the Radiant at dusk. Both through a 6.8 SPCs. You can see the flash on both, though it wasn't terrible. The Radiant has a slightly better tone IMO, maybe a hair quieter, but they are both going to be loud at that short of a barrel. I can shoot a couple rounds through the Micro without hearing protection before it becomes uncomfortable. I prefer the Micro on my SBRs, just because of the extra durability and slightly shorter length. I don't notice any practical weight difference between the two once they are on the gun. If you are planning on running them in the short configuration, it maybe worth looking elsewhere for a true K can. They will be loud and extremely flashy due to the lack of baffles in the main short section. I always use both in the full configuration. Personally, I don't think losing the small amount of the length is worth the trade off of a louder, flashier can. I would look at the Rugged Razor as well, if you like the Micro, and don't plan on running it in the short configuration. From some YouTube videos, there is a tone difference between the two, but I personally haven't shot a Razor. View Quote Rugged makes a flash hider end cap. I run my Micro in the 'k' config w/FH end cap on a 13.5" right now. Haven't shot it at night though to see how it does. Plan to in a week or so. Turbo K is the answer you need OP. I've got two of them, wish I had another. Newer ones look to have less flash from YHMs video from the redesigned end cap. |
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5.56 isn't quite with a non K can.
Turbo K works great on a 10.5. Greatly reduces the blast and noise. Only need light ear protection. |
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Quoted: 5.56 isn't quite with a non K can. Turbo K works great on a 10.5. Greatly reduces the blast and noise. Only need light ear protection. View Quote Truth. Before the Turbo K my 10.5 stayed home much of the time. The blast and noise were a bit much. Add the can and a BRT gas tube to throttle down the gas and it's fun to shoot with just ear plugs. |
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I used to have a 762SDN6 on here and now I have a Tranquilo on it. I love the lack of blowback from the LaRue but it’s still loud and way too big and heavy. So I figure if it’s already gonna be loud might as well have it be short and light.
The 10.5” with just a brake is just crazy. |
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I use my Micro 30 on my 10.5 and it works well but I almost always run it in the full length configuration now. It isn’t too much longer/heavier but it seems to make quite a bit of difference when compared to the short configuration. Just my opinion on that but have close to 1,500 rounds through the can on the end of my 10.5 and it has been great and would definitely recommend. I have a Turbo K in jail right now and look forward to comparing it to the micro 30.
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I have a Nomad with a direct thread adapter on my 11.8”
Not the shortest ever but not too long and super lite |
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10.5" with a Turbo K on it is my go-to AR. I love that combo.
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I only have a Sandman K and a Turbo K to compare to each other. On my old 10.5 bbl, now a 10.3 crane spec the Sandman K seems louder compared to the Turbo K on either barrel. Meter wise I know both are over that 140 db mark. The Turbo K has a deeper tone to my ear. However its a higher back pressure can being a 5.56 bore compared to the Sandman K's .30 bore. I also need to mention I have the ebrake option on that Sandman K which reduces the backpressure even further. I'd love to get to try a Resonator K on that setup at some point. Its pretty crazy that the Turbo K only having 2 baffles does an effective job knocking down the bark of a 5.56 the way that it does.
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turbo k 100%
its one of the cheapest options in its class, but also one of the best performing and best all around combination of specs. YHM really cracked the code |
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Got my t2 turbo for the same price locally as SS wanted for the k, so went that way.
No regrets, but at the moment I would jump on what you can find in stock now. |
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Quoted: Here is my Turbo K on a SBR. Not on your list but gives an idea what to expect with a 10.5 inch barrel. Note : Its a screen shot of a video which is why it looks a bit off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2169/Flame_JPG-1831100.JPG View Quote Wasn’t that ammo related? Maybe I’m thinking of something else Griffin M4SDK is a great option Might be able to find an AAC Mini-4 on close out somewhere like I did. Very good performance in such a small can. I’d check out the Micro 30 though based on your list. My coworker has one and it’s awesome |
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I start out most sessions with a 30 round mag dump on my 10.5 with brake and then put the turbok on for more shooting.
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Dominus vs Dominus-K, dB @ shooter's ear can be louder on either one depending on the gas system setup. I have guns where either one is quieter.
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A local shop let me throw their last Jumbo Shrimp on my rifle. Man going from that Tranquilo to that tiny titanium can felt amazing. I wish there was a Dominus K there to try, I’ve got another TBAC can and love their stuff, it’s just so hard to find.
Definitely leaning heavy toward one of those two. |
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Quoted: A local shop let me throw their last Jumbo Shrimp on my rifle. Man going from that Tranquilo to that tiny titanium can felt amazing. I wish there was a Dominus K there to try, I've got another TBAC can and love their stuff, it's just so hard to find. Definitely leaning heavy toward one of those two. View Quote |
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K cans that are 30 cal suck on a 556 under 16”. They are loud AF. Get a 556 k can. It does WAY better at suppressing 556.
Now if its for 300blk subsonics them get a 30cal K can. |
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Quoted: K cans that are 30 cal suck on a 556 under 16”. They are loud AF. Get a 556 k can. It does WAY better at suppressing 556. Now if its for 300blk subsonics them get a 30cal K can. View Quote Both the Omega 300 and Vox-S do well enough on 11.5” 5.56. With some mounts they can be a hair over 6 inches long so not a true k-can, but close. I usually don’t bother with the tighter 5.56 front caps. These .30 cal suppressors have durable blast baffles and more baffles than the true k-cans, so they are also heavier than most k-cans, although depending on mount not much more than some. |
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Quoted: K cans that are 30 cal suck on a 556 under 16". They are loud AF. Get a 556 k can. It does WAY better at suppressing 556. Now if its for 300blk subsonics them get a 30cal K can. View Quote We shot a resonator k back to back with a turbo k on an 11.5" 556 and the turbo k was WAY quieter. I could shoot it without ear pro. The resonator k was too loud to shoot without ears. But it was great on a 16" 308 and a short 300blk! |
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Quoted: This is accurate. We shot a resonator k back to back with a turbo k on an 11.5" 556 and the turbo k was WAY quieter. I could shoot it without ear pro. The resonator k was too loud to shoot without ears. But it was great on a 16" 308 and a short 300blk! View Quote |
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Quoted: How was the gas in the face with the Resonator K vs Turbo K? View Quote My first shots with a saker k on a 10.5" 556 made my eyes water and the gas was intolerable. Luckily that gun is dedicated suppressed so I could dial the gas down a lot (superlative gb bleed off ALL THE WAY open as far as it will go and it still locks back but isn't gassy) |
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Quoted: This is accurate. We shot a resonator k back to back with a turbo k on an 11.5" 556 and the turbo k was WAY quieter. I could shoot it without ear pro. The resonator k was too loud to shoot without ears. But it was great on a 16" 308 and a short 300blk! View Quote Thanks for sharing this. I've been curious how the Turbo K and Resonator K stacked up back to back in this exact type of scenario. |
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Quoted: Both the Omega 300 and Vox-S do well enough on 11.5” 5.56. With some mounts they can be a hair over 6 inches long so not a true k-can, but close. I usually don’t bother with the tighter 5.56 front caps. These .30 cal suppressors have durable blast baffles and more baffles than the true k-cans, so they are also heavier than most k-cans, although depending on mount not much more than some. View Quote Those two are not K cans. And i own an Omega. Im speaking true K/micro cans. They are all loud unless used on subsonic 300blk. |
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Good video comparing a variety of suppressors on 11.5” 5.56:
????\u200d??Best metering can on a 11.5 556?? |
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That's how we ran them for years and in retrospect (ie, post-PULSE) we now know a lot of that data is bad.
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Quoted: Here is my Turbo K on a SBR. Not on your list but gives an idea what to expect with a 10.5 inch barrel. Note : Its a screen shot of a video which is why it looks a bit off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2169/Flame_JPG-1831100.JPG View Quote Oh, it's not that bad.... Turbo K (original) on a 10.3"... I get about one daylight visible flash every 5-6 shots. Without the can, every shot is like a burst of canned sunshine in your face. |
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Quoted: This is accurate. We shot a resonator k back to back with a turbo k on an 11.5" 556 and the turbo k was WAY quieter. I could shoot it without ear pro. The resonator k was too loud to shoot without ears. But it was great on a 16" 308 and a short 300blk! View Quote Yankee Hill Machine Resonator K |
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Quoted: The Turbo K will be quieter at the muzzle but the Resonator K will be slightly quieter at the ear. Start around 8:57 for 5.56 testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEwobrBgpY View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This is accurate. We shot a resonator k back to back with a turbo k on an 11.5" 556 and the turbo k was WAY quieter. I could shoot it without ear pro. The resonator k was too loud to shoot without ears. But it was great on a 16" 308 and a short 300blk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEwobrBgpY |
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Quoted: Quoted: i mean... i was measuring at the ear with my ...ears... and the turbo k was much quieter than the resonator on an 11.5" 556. the resonator k didn't hurt my ears on a rattler with supers or a ruger scout rifle in 308, but an 11.5" 556 was loud enough I was like - nope. But the turbo k was no big deal. We shot a few drills with it and no ear pro and I didn't even notice it. Much like the direct thread Saker K I have on a different gun we were using at the same time. It was cold at like 4000ft above sea level outdoors in the open. So yeah, there are always a ton of variables. |
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5.56 just doesn't suppress very well in general. A can takes some of the bark off but its far from that hollywood quiet experience you get with a suppresed rimfire setup.
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