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Posted: 4/4/2018 2:11:16 PM EDT
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Now that Sig has announced that they will be selling Rattler uppers, if you drop one on a standard AR lower can you still use the factory collapsible PDW style stock or brace? |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 6:34:44 PM EDT
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Is this compatible with the Cabela's MCX?
https://www.sigsauer.com/store/sig-mcx-6-caliber-exchange-kit-300blk.html |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 8:14:57 AM EDT
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Yes, the AR/M16 lower adapters have pic rail on the rear (just like an MCX/MPX lower) for using an MPX/MCX stock or brace. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now that Sig has announced that they will be selling Rattler uppers, if you drop one on a standard AR lower can you still use the factory collapsible PDW style stock or brace? 
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Posted: 4/5/2018 2:18:41 PM EDT
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Is this compatible with the Cabela's MCX? https://www.sigsauer.com/store/sig-mcx-6-caliber-exchange-kit-300blk.html |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 3:04:03 PM EDT
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@coregon
Any updates on the timeline for rattler uppers? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:26:58 PM EDT
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@coregon Any updates on the timeline for rattler uppers? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 9:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rattler uppers are starting to ship Thanks for the reply! Will these primarily be sold through the sig store, or are there other places to be watching for them? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:38:58 PM EDT
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@coregon Thanks for the reply! Will these primarily be sold through the sig store, or are there other places to be watching for them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Rattler uppers are starting to ship Thanks for the reply! Will these primarily be sold through the sig store, or are there other places to be watching for them? |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:02:08 AM EDT
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Can you tell us what MSRP is going to be on these?
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Posted: 5/13/2018 7:19:29 PM EDT
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When will the 5.56 version be released?
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Posted: 5/13/2018 9:50:15 PM EDT
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Can you tell us what MSRP is going to be on these? |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 8:46:09 AM EDT
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Thanks. Any updates on rattler stocks being available?
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Posted: 5/14/2018 9:29:56 PM EDT
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Thanks. Any updates on rattler stocks being available? 
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Posted: 6/5/2018 4:43:58 PM EDT
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Form 1 and form 4 both came in
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Posted: 6/10/2018 11:07:46 AM EDT
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Any one know if you can run the sandman k with the Midwest industry suppressor rails. Curious to know if the can is to short or if it will stick out
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Posted: 6/15/2018 10:16:34 PM EDT
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Finally got to shoot my Rattler (hybrid)* pistol today! Only had a 25yd indoor range to work with.
Fed it Magtech 123(?)grain, Barnes 110gr, and some of the Hornady 190gr subs. POI for all of them at 25yds was the same (within my margin of error). If I wanted a 100yd zero for the 110s where should they be hitting at 25? The subsonic would not reliably cycle. Brass would eject but no new round picked up, even on +gas. No stovepipe or FTE, just a "click." I'm 100% unsuppressed for the foreseeable future but it would be nice if it would cycle subs anyway. I was using Pmags, both the 556 and 300 design. I'm hoping once the gun loosens up (recoil springs break in?) it will be more forgiving. Everything else ran great. LOUD! When I got home I realized that I had forgotten to add any lube so it was running dry. 
*I can't buy a whole Rattler in my state so I had to buy the Upper Kit and put it on a pistol lower I already had. |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 10:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP = $1799 Wish they would price the uppers and conversation kits closer to that of an AR barrel/upper. With that said, I'll probably still buy one if I can get a good deal. I already have a form 1'ed MCX lower. |
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Posted: 6/16/2018 12:51:54 AM EDT
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if anyone is interested I stopped by my LGS and they have a Rattler for 2500 with a romeo 4 included.
PM me if anyone is interested |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 11:22:34 PM EDT
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I’m loving this gun. I’ll have meter results soon.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 10:34:43 AM EDT
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Awesome pic, what MRO mount is that?
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I’m loving this gun. I’ll have meter results soon. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/E69F7A23-2BB7-4A20-95BD-33650D747FF4-579333.jpg |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:28:28 PM EDT
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Trijicon’s QD low mount. It’s pretty sweet. Spring loaded lock, then a twist of the screw keeps it in place.
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Awesome pic, what MRO mount is that? |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 10:06:54 PM EDT
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Yeah....that's not the actual grip that ships on it. It ships with a Magpul K grip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:The pistol grip? Or which grip are you referring to? https://www.sigsauer.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/m/c/mcx-rattler-sbr-left-face.jpg AFAIK, it's unique to this gun and not sold separately. Just need a weight, sans hardware.  |
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Posted: 6/24/2018 12:22:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2018 8:17:34 AM EDT
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I can't get excited about a SIG. If I really believed they'd keep making the latest/greatest model more than 3 or 4 years I might feel differently. I'll keep the two SIG rifles I own (both discontinued models) for as long as I can get parts to fix them (neither have broken, but most things will, sooner or later). I just won't buy more.
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Posted: 6/24/2018 1:03:08 PM EDT
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I can't get excited about a SIG. If I really believed they'd keep making the latest/greatest model more than 3 or 4 years I might feel differently. I'll keep the two SIG rifles I own (both discontinued models) for as long as I can get parts to fix them (neither have broken, but most things will, sooner or later). I just won't buy more. That said, the 556 never enjoyed any real adoption during the 12 years it was in production. IIRC @Coregon posted (last year ish) the MCX had already sold more in the 2 years it was in production than the 556 did in its entire production time. Agencies and organizations didn't want the 556 (those that did were better served with Swiss 550/551/552) but there sure seems to be a lot of interest in the MCX and they aren't competing with their own product lines. |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 7:42:15 PM EDT
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Thinking of selling my Arsenal AK and buying a Rattler........are they worth it? Interested in the .300 BLK round and like the pistol
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Posted: 7/2/2018 5:42:06 AM EDT
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I sure do like mine. For an ultra shirt 300blk it really is the best thing going. I bought one before i had a chance to handle my number two choice(honey badger). After I finally handled the honey badger is was obvious I mad the correct choice.
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Posted: 7/5/2018 4:36:33 PM EDT
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Have a Rattle and a spare Silencerco Octane 45. Any idea if this combo would be good to go for subsonic loads?
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Posted: 7/5/2018 8:33:00 PM EDT
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@coregon
Looks like the Rattler is now shipping with the grips that were in the original promotional images instead of the Magpul K grip (like on my Rattler). Is there a way to get one of these for us early adopters? |
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Posted: 7/5/2018 8:35:51 PM EDT
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@coregon Looks like the Rattler is now shipping with the grips that were in the original promotional images instead of the Magpul K grip (like on my Rattler). Is there a way to get one of these? |
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Posted: 7/5/2018 8:38:56 PM EDT
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That's not unreasonable. That said, the 556 never enjoyed any real adoption during the 12 years it was in production. IIRC @Coregon posted (last year ish) the MCX had already sold more in the 2 years it was in production than the 556 did in its entire production time. Agencies and organizations didn't want the 556 (those that did were better served with Swiss 550/551/552) but there sure seems to be a lot of interest in the MCX and they aren't competing with their own product lines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't get excited about a SIG. If I really believed they'd keep making the latest/greatest model more than 3 or 4 years I might feel differently. I'll keep the two SIG rifles I own (both discontinued models) for as long as I can get parts to fix them (neither have broken, but most things will, sooner or later). I just won't buy more. That said, the 556 never enjoyed any real adoption during the 12 years it was in production. IIRC @Coregon posted (last year ish) the MCX had already sold more in the 2 years it was in production than the 556 did in its entire production time. Agencies and organizations didn't want the 556 (those that did were better served with Swiss 550/551/552) but there sure seems to be a lot of interest in the MCX and they aren't competing with their own product lines. I love the 55X series and glad Sans Swiss still makes them available for import. |
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Posted: 7/5/2018 8:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meaning just the grip itself? Not at the moment - I don’t see an orderable part number for just the grip. |
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Posted: 7/6/2018 2:47:30 PM EDT
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Have a Rattle and a spare Silencerco Octane 45. Any idea if this combo would be good to go for subsonic loads? |
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Posted: 7/7/2018 11:59:58 PM EDT
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I saw one today with a pistol brace in 300 BO. I didn’t handle it because my wallet would have jumped out and bought it.
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Posted: 7/8/2018 10:25:41 PM EDT
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Chris Bartocci of Small Arms Solutions just did a great rundown of the Rattler on YouTube complete with a Sig can, sight and light, as well as stock variants. It’s a great review and analysis of the gun. Incidentally, I love mine ;)
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Posted: 7/11/2018 2:47:09 PM EDT
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Now that Sig has announced that they will be selling Rattler uppers, if you drop one on a standard AR lower can you still use the factory collapsible PDW style stock or brace? It's actually very close -- the collapsible brace, with rods extended, will fit over the conversion block and AR. But when you clamp it onto the 1913 rail of the conversion block, the rods can no longer clear the channels. Does that make sense? I'll add some close-up pictures for illustration. Note that when the rods are collapsed over the upper, the collapsible brace block is not attached to the conversion block. I think with some very light machining to the insides of the rods, it would definitely fit. But unfortunately I don't have the tools or capability to do this. :-/ 
 Edit to add: I haven't tried the collapsible stock, since mine is a pistol (I'm in CA, so no SBRs allowed). |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 3:05:49 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, no. The conversion block's channel indents aren't as deep as the channels in the upper; they're more aligned to fit the round part of the AR lower. It's actually very close -- the collapsible brace, with rods extended, will fit over the conversion block and AR. But when you clamp it onto the 1913 rail of the conversion block, the rods can no longer clear the channels. Does that make sense? I'll add some close-up pictures for illustration. Note that when the rods are collapsed over the upper, the collapsible brace block is not attached to the conversion block. I think with some very light machining to the insides of the rods, it would definitely fit. But unfortunately I don't have the tools or capability to do this. :-/ http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5394.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5397.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5401.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5392.jpg Edit to add: I haven't tried the collapsible stock, since mine is a pistol (I'm in CA, no so SBRs allowed). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now that Sig has announced that they will be selling Rattler uppers, if you drop one on a standard AR lower can you still use the factory collapsible PDW style stock or brace? It's actually very close -- the collapsible brace, with rods extended, will fit over the conversion block and AR. But when you clamp it onto the 1913 rail of the conversion block, the rods can no longer clear the channels. Does that make sense? I'll add some close-up pictures for illustration. Note that when the rods are collapsed over the upper, the collapsible brace block is not attached to the conversion block. I think with some very light machining to the insides of the rods, it would definitely fit. But unfortunately I don't have the tools or capability to do this. :-/ http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5394.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5397.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5401.jpg http://www.multihop.net/calguns/IMG_5392.jpg Edit to add: I haven't tried the collapsible stock, since mine is a pistol (I'm in CA, no so SBRs allowed). ETA: Looking at your pics do you think it would work with a small picatinny riser sitting between the stock/brace assembly and the lower? |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 7:36:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. That is unfortunately what I suspected the case would be. ETA: Looking at your pics do you think it would work with a small picatinny riser sitting between the stock/brace assembly and the lower? |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 11:12:17 AM EDT
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Finally got to hold one in LGS Saturday, it had one of the new pistol grips. I am a left handed shooter, and when I was holding this pistol grip firmly everything was fine and felt good, but when I lowered the gun to across my chest and loosened my grip, the firearms lower receiver instantly pinched my hand between my thumb and trigger finger. I own an mpx and a friend has two MCXs and this is my first time experiencing sticking kind of pain/discomfort. It was instant discomfort if pistol grip was not held very tight. Maybe it is just the pistol grip, might have to try one with a different grip.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 1:02:54 PM EDT
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Sig has the rattler psb overall length at 19.3". Is that with the brace extended? Anyone measure it collapse and extended?
I really like the design just having hard time coughing up the dough. lol Is the cost worth it over building a ar15 with 6" barrel and law tactical folder? |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:54:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:43:29 AM EDT
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Handled one at the LGS yesterday. For as short as it is, that thing is flipping HEAVY.
For that price I can build two pistol ARs and SBR one... which is exactly what I'm doing. Love the design, but they need to shave some weight off it and lower the price for me to give it a second look. |
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Posted: 7/24/2018 8:43:19 PM EDT
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Handled one at the LGS yesterday. For as short as it is, that thing is flipping HEAVY. For that price I can build two pistol ARs and SBR one... which is exactly what I'm doing. Love the design, but they need to shave some weight off it and lower the price for me to give it a second look. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:30:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree it felt pretty heavy. And you know most have intention of running a 30 cal suppressor on the end of it so it's gonna be a dense package. Man does it look bad though. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:37:11 PM EDT
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I've heard this a lot. Does anyone know the actual weight of a Rattler PSB? The official 5.1lbs seems unrealistic since everyone keeps talking about how heavy it feels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I agree it felt pretty heavy. And you know most have intention of running a 30 cal suppressor on the end of it so it's gonna be a dense package. Man does it look bad though. Snapped a few pictures for you. OEM Rattler PSB = 5lb 13oz  Attached FileRattler with no PSB = 4lb 12oz  Attached FileWeight of PSB alone = 1lb 1oz  Attached FileWeight of Rattler stock = 11oz  Attached FileWeight of Rattler as I have it setup = 6lb 8oz (tele stock, PEQ15, Romeo1 w/ Pic riser, BCM fore grip, RailScales Karve, SIG SRD muzzle device)  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:59:18 PM EDT
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Damn. I need to SBR mine.
Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly don't know where that weight on our website comes from. That said, I don't think it feels heavy, even with a can on the end. I think it balances really well suppressed or unsuppressed. Snapped a few pictures for you. OEM Rattler PSB = 5lb 13oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_4109-618967.JPG Rattler with no PSB = 4lb 12oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_4110-618968.JPG Weight of PSB alone = 1lb 1oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_4112-618970.JPG Weight of Rattler stock = 11oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_4111-618971.JPG Weight of Rattler as I have it setup = 6lb 8oz (tele stock, PEQ15, Romeo1 w/ Pic riser, BCM fore grip, RailScales Karve, SIG SRD muzzle device) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_4108-618982.JPG |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:13:05 PM EDT
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Damn. I need to SBR mine. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:44:03 PM EDT
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Yeah I definitely need a Rattler upper for my factory sbr. BTW Goloud I’m curious if you can meter a Honey Badger against a rattler? I shot my 9inch mcx with sig762TI vs my honey badger and I definitely felt the MCX was quiter with less action noise and ejection port pop. 
It’s happening in the next couple of weeks. I’m collecting enough subsonic ammo to make the test worthwhile. Slight disadvantage since I only have the Trash Panda and the SRD762QD-Ti at the moment. To be a fair test I should have the Thunder Chicken. Still, I’m betting that th dB difference will be +/-2 - virtually imperceptible to the human ear. Honestly, I love them both. Each has a unique character and feel. Sig allowed me to buy the Rattler and I hope Q lets me buy the Honey Badger. (It is a rare event for me to buy a review gun.) They share designers and DNA. It’s only appropriate that they have similarities. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 8:03:59 PM EDT
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I agree they are both awesome guns. I have the matching HB silencer as I got the first run. My serial number is less than 80. I just a little surprised by the difference port noise. Could be you are just closer to the Ejection port due to cheekweld on HB. I just need that Mp5sd I keep talking about to complete the goloud experience.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 8:37:45 PM EDT
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I agree they are both awesome guns. I have the matching HB silencer as I got the first run. My serial number is less than 80. I just a little surprised by the difference port noise. Could be you are just closer to the Ejection port due to cheekweld on HB. I just need that Mp5sd I keep talking about to complete the goloud experience. |
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