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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:29:10 PM EDT
PVS-7 Gen 3 (Used) - $1000
Hard Head Veterans ATE Bump $200 Norotos Rhino (Surplus) - $60 This is the most cost effective way I could find to get into a decent NV setup that I could afford. Might upgrade one day, but for now I am super happy about it. What do you guys think? Also, found an easy way to stow my lens cover. A little Velcro here, a little Gorilla glue there and pesto. I'm sure someone has done this before, but I've never seen it. Figured it'd be better than a Butler Creek flip cap. Those things break all the time. 
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:39:17 PM EDT
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Fucking awesome and great idea on the velcro.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:39:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Not bad for 1300. Night vision never stops at a first buy. I have spent tens of thousands. I don't care what Gen 3 you have except for major blemishes Sub 1300 is a good deal.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:41:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Excellent. Now if I could just fine a gen 3 for $1k!
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:41:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks good to me. I love the PVS7
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:42:13 PM EDT
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Also don’t feel shy about not running it right in front of your eyeballs. Some distance between the ocular lenses and your eyeballs is a good thing
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:46:04 PM EDT
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Also don’t feel shy about not running it right in front of your eyeballs. Some distance between the ocular lenses and your eyeballs is a good thing |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:48:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the tip. I am new to NV so I appreciate the advice! What state are you in? |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:53:45 PM EDT
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Absolutely man! There is a point of diminishing returns but you will figure it out. Your field of view is very small compared to your natural vision so just get used to scanning left and right while under nods because jamming it in your face won’t help change the fact :) What state are you in? |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: North Carolina |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:59:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:03:58 PM EDT
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If you are ever in south East tx hit me up and we can shoot! |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:09:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang, come to think of it I was in Houston this last summer for the NRA Personal Protection EXPO. I'll keep it in mind. I travel a lot for work. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:11:48 PM EDT
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Listen up creep, how did you get that footage of me?!? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Listen up creep, how did you get that footage of me?!?  
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:54:02 PM EDT
[#15]
What’s the relevance of the prices you paid?
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Posted: 2/7/2020 11:14:33 PM EDT
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What’s the relevance of the prices you paid? |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 11:14:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Bravo, that is a great deal on a PVS-7.
I have a soft spot for those and the old PVS-5s because I used those for many years. I still rocked the 5s up until 2018. They were an extremely great set with clean tubes that preformed very well. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:28:53 AM EDT
[#18]
Also, I figured out a really good counterweight for the PVS-7. Its balanced perfectly.
Blackhawk 40 MM Grenade Pouch. Had one lying around. Has Velcro backer all the way across, so works well. Filled with (12) one ounce silver coins and (6) AA batteries. So, have spare batteries and SHTF money at the same time, lol. Just gonna be even more an expensive loss if my helmet gets jacked tho. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 1:42:50 AM EDT
[#19]
I like it!
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:33:47 AM EDT
[#20]
First, thanks for sharing what you got & what it cost. Has value to folks curious about what they can get into NV for.
Question: Have you tried any range muffs (ear-pro) UNDER the Hard Head Vets bump helmet? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:52:05 AM EDT
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Thanks for the tip. I am new to NV so I appreciate the advice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also don't feel shy about not running it right in front of your eyeballs. Some distance between the ocular lenses and your eyeballs is a good thing |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 11:32:12 AM EDT
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First, thanks for sharing what you got & what it cost. Has value to folks curious about what they can get into NV for. Question: Have you tried any range muffs (ear-pro) UNDER the Hard Head Vets bump helmet? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:32:08 PM EDT
[#23]
Awesome! And don’t let anyone rip on you for that 7. 7’s are awesome.
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:51:03 PM EDT
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Also don’t feel shy about not running it right in front of your eyeballs. Some distance between the ocular lenses and your eyeballs is a good thing 
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Posted: 2/8/2020 1:23:21 PM EDT
[#25]
Way to go that is a very good first NV set up.
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Posted: 2/8/2020 1:58:10 PM EDT
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Great buy on the 7s, but you got taken on the Rhino I by paying 4X the amount they're worth. A Rhino II would have been a better buy since it's more sturdier, has vertical adjustment and can be found for 35-65 dollars new. PVS7s are great and eaiser to learn on since both eyes are aided. The first upgrade I'd do ASAP is making ir buying a lanyard which can be simple piece of 550 or a shoestring tethered to you helmet then attached to your 7s.
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Posted: 2/8/2020 3:48:00 PM EDT
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I dunno. Happy about getting a deal? Are you upset I posted the prices I paid or something? I’ve just never understood the “Look how much money I saved” mindset. To me it’s as equally baffling as remarking “Look how much money I overpaid”. That’s all. Keep enjoying your purchase. You will enjoy it. I’ve found PVS7s actually somewhat easier to use (save for ruined natural NV in both eyes) than PVS14s. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 3:53:36 PM EDT
[#28]
I love these threads.
All the digital guys going “ommmmggggg you don’t need gen 3. It will cost you 50k!” And here you are with an awesome set up for a reasonable cost that will serve you perfectly well for years. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 4:24:45 PM EDT
[#29]
I’m jealous my first setup cost way more.
I second the idea buy a surplus rhino II and sell that one you’ll be happy you did. You can also upgrade the rhino II to dovetail down the road for another $60ish |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 4:25:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey man. Don’t pay me no nevermind and don’t nobody pay your bills but you. PVS-7s are great and $1k is a score. I’ve just never understood the “Look how much money I saved” mindset. To me it’s as equally baffling as remarking “Look how much money I overpaid”. That’s all. Keep enjoying your purchase. You will enjoy it. I’ve found PVS7s actually somewhat easier to use (save for ruined natural NV in both eyes) than PVS14s. Nice score OP. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 4:29:36 PM EDT
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I love these threads. All the digital guys going “ommmmggggg you don’t need gen 3. It will cost you 50k!” And here you are with an awesome set up for a reasonable cost that will serve you perfectly well for years. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 5:00:41 PM EDT
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Looks like a great way to get started!
Now just make sure to get out and use it. One thing I really like about NV is it doesn't have to involve shooting. Another thing I really like about NV is it can involve shooting 
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Posted: 2/8/2020 5:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't tried muffs under the helmet. The HHV helmet has a generous pad system, I would think it'd be tight. :) |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 5:43:38 PM EDT
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No worries. If you get a chance it'd be nice if you posted back. Some apparently work, some don't, some folks remove a little padding to accomodate 'em... naturally it also depends greatly on the muffs. Just curious. :) Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Haven't tried muffs under the helmet. The HHV helmet has a generous pad system, I would think it'd be tight. :) One thing I noticed that I wasn't aware of. (More I play with the PVS, more I learn). It seems to have an auto shutoff. I know higher end Nods had that feature, but wasn't certain mine had it. When I have my Nods in the Rhino, and I flip them up they shut off. I know, because when I flip them back down I have to turn them off, then turn them on again. Hoping that is an intended feature and I don't have issues with my unit already. I know my unit has ABC and an IR illum built in, but pretty sure no autogating (No whine when turned on). |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 6:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll try my muffs and let ya know. One thing I noticed that I wasn't aware of. (More I play with the PVS, more I learn). It seems to have an auto shutoff. I know higher end Nods had that feature, but wasn't certain mine had it. When I have my Nods in the Rhino, and I flip them up they shut off. I know, because when I flip them back down I have to turn them off, then turn them on again. Hoping that is an intended feature and I don't have issues with my unit already. I know my unit has ABC and an IR illum built in, but pretty sure no autogating (No whine when turned on). |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 7:38:06 PM EDT
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If the auto shut off is like the one on the pvs 14 you can bypass it if it’s not working right.
To do that just use electrical tape over the contacts on the J arm |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 7:42:58 PM EDT
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If the auto shut off is like the one on the pvs 14 you can bypass it if it’s not working right. To do that just use electrical tape over the contacts on the J arm |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 8:53:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to be working right. Just didn't know it was there on this set. Just supprised my is all. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:23:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Now that I have my helmet set up all squared away, I find myself wearing my nods around the house all the time. My wife says I'm weird and I keep fighting my two and a half year old son for turns wearing the nods. At least he thinks they're cool, lol.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:30:38 PM EDT
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Now that I have my helmet set up all squared away, I find myself wearing my nods around the house all the time. My wife says I'm weird and I keep fighting my two and a half year old son for turns wearing the nods. At least he thinks they're cool, lol. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:34:08 PM EDT
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A great game to play with little ones before bedtime is to hide certain toys or stuffed animals around the room, then try to have them locate them using NV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now that I have my helmet set up all squared away, I find myself wearing my nods around the house all the time. My wife says I'm weird and I keep fighting my two and a half year old son for turns wearing the nods. At least he thinks they're cool, lol. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 4:08:09 PM EDT
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A great game to play with little ones before bedtime is to hide certain toys or stuffed animals around the room, then try to have them locate them using NV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
A great game to play with little ones before bedtime is to hide certain toys or stuffed animals around the room, then try to have them locate them using NV. Quoted:
Its called a discussion forum for a reason. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 10:51:29 PM EDT
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That's a great idea! Sounds like fun. 
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Posted: 2/10/2020 3:13:27 PM EDT
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I agree. I've read & had a couple folks tell me that when I get mine not to focus on the weapon initially but walk around the yard or hunting property, just routine getting used to them, tie your shoelaces in the dark, that kind of thing. When I finally get setup I'm looking forward to maybe walking the younger grand-kids' little nieces/nephews around for Halloween when they sojourn on the edge of town. Put a little piece of glint tape on them... Has to be way cooler than their dad tying a chemlight on their back which, I'm told, completely "un-cools" the costume. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a great idea! Sounds like fun. Took out the trash wearing them. Watched a movie wearing them. Made the coffee wearing them. Took a duce wearing them. I love these things. I never want to take them off. If only my two and a half year old son would back off. "Daddy, my turn. Daddy, me try them. Daddy, I want see nods."
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Posted: 2/10/2020 3:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya, visible chem-lights are lame. IR chem-lights are the beez kneez. Need me some of those. I for one have been wearing my nods all weekend. Took out the trash wearing them. Watched a movie wearing them. Made the coffee wearing them. Took a duce wearing them. I love these things. I never want to take them off. If only my two and a half year old son would back off. "Daddy, my turn. Daddy, me try them. Daddy, I want see nods." |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 3:55:17 PM EDT
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I hope your kidding about watching a movie while wearing your NV. All light IR or visible kills your nods slowly amd even if they're autogated watching TV or long exposure to bright lights is a bad idea. Also the gain only adjust what your eye sees not how much light is entering the tube. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ya, visible chem-lights are lame. IR chem-lights are the beez kneez. Need me some of those. I for one have been wearing my nods all weekend. Took out the trash wearing them. Watched a movie wearing them. Made the coffee wearing them. Took a duce wearing them. I love these things. I never want to take them off. If only my two and a half year old son would back off. "Daddy, my turn. Daddy, me try them. Daddy, I want see nods." |
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