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Posted: 1/15/2019 2:08:59 PM EDT
Or is there something newer or better?
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Yes, yes it is. The other products that I know of with flite control supposedly buy the wads from federal.
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Interesting, and awesome that Federals innovation is still going strong.

Now, to decide if i should stockpile 00 or #1.
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Yes it is.  I also really like my vang comp so i can shoot dirt cheap buck with a similarly tight pattern
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I believe Hornady and Remington offer a similar product. Hornady was the versatite or such. Unsure if they're available as components.
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I believe Hornady and Remington offer a similar product. Hornady was the versatite or such. Unsure if they're available as components.
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Ive been running Critical Defense buck.  But i woukd like to buy a few cases, and that stuff is pricey.
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I've been looking at sending a barrel to Vang. How does it shoot with the flite control?
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Yes it is.  I also really like my vang comp so i can shoot dirt cheap buck with a similarly tight pattern
I've been looking at sending a barrel to Vang. How does it shoot with the flite control?
Basically no improvement with the flight control with or without vang. But it improves everything else about 2-3x
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I think it would be cool if Federal and Remington got together and combined the Federal's flight control wad with Remington's hyper velocity wad.  Imagine 00 buck at 1700 fps and deadly at 100 yards!

https://www.remington.com/ammunition/shotshell/waterfowl-loads/hypersonic-steel
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I think it would be cool if Federal and Remington got together and combined the Federal's flight control wad with Remington's hyper velocity wad.  Imagine 00 buck at 1700 fps and deadly at 100 yards!

https://www.remington.com/ammunition/shotshell/waterfowl-loads/hypersonic-steel
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Federal has a Tungsten version of their 00 that hits 1,600fps.
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So, who has flite control #1 in stock?! I think that’s the defining question here
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I'm really happy with versatite 00

25 yards in my shockwave
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50 yards with my 18" 590a1
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Link Posted: 1/17/2019 10:04:25 AM EDT
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I have a Winchester 1300 Defender that shoots a sub 8" pattern with #1 FFC at 25. It performed so well I had Vang put rifle sights on it so I can use it in class:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/37749/winnie-688602.jpg

Something else worth noting is that Carlson's makes a buckshot specific choke that is supposed to tighten up the patterns of buckshot primarily for hunting. I haven't had the chance to use one but I'm hoping I can do some T&E with one on my Wilson'd 870 this year. If it works, it might be a good way to achieve tighter patterns with conventional buckshot at longer ranges...assuming your barrel is cut for chokes.
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Neat!
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Remington 8 pellet LE low recoil buck is almost as good of a performer as Federal FC.

And I haven't bought any in a while, but last year found it for under $0.60/round.
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The FFC runs very well out of my Mossberg 590 14" at 25 yards.  I put it through a few other shotguns too and it was tight.  I would keep a little of both on hand.  I have OOBK in my stash.
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Flight control is good stuff.

It is best from cylinder bore. I've found it opens up faster with tighter chokes.
The tighter choke breaks the shot cup earlier than designed and will open faster as a result.
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There is a certain amount of voodoo to it for sure.
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No to get too off topic, but one time i got a bad remchoke.  It was an XX full turkey.  It would throw high right by over 20” at 40 yards.  Swapped it out for another and never had an issue again.
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Interesting you mention that -- I've found it patterns better from my IC choked 870P than my cylinder-bored 870 Mag.
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Flight control is good stuff.

It is best from cylinder bore. I've found it opens up faster with tighter chokes.
The tighter choke breaks the shot cup earlier than designed and will open faster as a result.
Interesting you mention that -- I've found it patterns better from my IC choked 870P than my cylinder-bored 870 Mag.
I’m just going on my experience.

FFC patterns tighter in my 18” CYL bore Winchester Defender than from my 20” M2 using and LM choke at 20 yards.

As was stated all barrels are unique. Just because I use an LM choke does not mean i will get an LM pattern from my gun.
Link Posted: 1/18/2019 6:52:30 PM EDT
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I did some testing last week. I compared federal 00 9 pellet flight control vs. estate 9 pellet 00. In a 20" cylinder Mossberg and 20" cylinder Maverick. Honestly it wasn't that much tighter than the estate. It was the first time I ever actually sat down and patterned any buckshot at a real measured distance (25 yards). I think the estate had about a 10" pattern and the federal about 8".
I liked the estate because it is relatively cheap, compared to the 5 round boxes of Remington or Winchester, and available locally.$16 and change for a 25 round box. But the federal is actually cheaper from sg ammo in a 250 round case for $144.
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