User Panel
Posted: 8/29/2022 9:42:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC_Augee]
Redlands, California, August 29th, 2022 Over the years, TNVC has been fully committed to making the very best and very latest, MIL-SPEC, duty-ready night vision, thermal, and visual augmentation systems technology available to ALL customers, not just the privileged few. Continuing this trend, TNVC is extremely proud to announce the release of a brand-new product line: TNVC SuperGain Systems. LEARN MORE ABOUT SUPERGAIN: tnvc.com/supergain SHOP SUPERGAIN NOW: tnvc.com/shop/category/supergain The TNVC SuperGain family is based on the latest image intensifier tube technology from L3Harris, and is one of the most significant evolutions in Generation 3 night vision systems and performance since the introduction of Unfilmed technology and are available ONLY at TNVC as a new Premium Option for all TNVC customers. Already in use with the United States military, including Special Operations Forces, these new SuperGain Unfilmed White Phosphor image intensifier tubes increase the Luminance Gain (Gain) specification for image intensifier tubes from the standard 40,000-80,000 fL/fc to between 100,000-120,000 fL/fc, greatly increasing the image intensifier's ability to amplify and collect light, providing increased low light performance and extending operational envelope when compared to night vision systems utilizing conventional Unfilmed White Phosphor image intensifiers. These new MIL-SPEC SuperGain image intensifiers will be available in all TNV-branded night vision systems, including the TNV/BNVG-M Artemis, TNV/DTNVS, TNV/RNVG, and TNV/PVS-14 as well as L3Harris-manufactured BNVD (PVS-31) and BNVD-1531 systems, all with an increased 2376+ Minimum Figure of Merit (FOM) specification. These new units will exist alongside current TNVC offerings, including those with standard Unfilmed and Filmed image intensifier tubes. ***SuperGain tubes are currently IN-STOCK for all TNV-systems. L3Harris systems are available for Pre-Order*** SuperGain image intensifier tubes have undergone extensive testing and been validated by the U.S. Army's Night Vision and Electronic Sensors Directorate (NVESD) at Fort Belvoir as well as USSOCOM and Special Operations Forces organizations. SuperGain image intensifier tubes are currently being fielded and in-service around the world in the newest, most technologically advanced night vision systems in the force, including the AN/PSQ-42 ENVG-B Advanced Goggle as well as F-PANO Fusion Panoramic Goggle. From the end-user's perspective, the SuperGain tubes will be noticeably brighter than standard Unfilmed White Phosphor tubes under most conditions and will provide more useable information in extreme darkness. However, one the most significant difference that users in the field will see is the ability to see deeper into dark corners and underbrush, allowing them to detect potential threats beyond the range of typical image intensifiers. This can be a significant advantage in both urban areas / inside of structures as well as in more rural areas with vegetation and heavy canopy and subterranean operations. While many consumers, both government and commercial have been focused on FOM (Signal to Noise Ratio multiplied by Center Resolution expressed in lp/mm) as a metric for image intensifier performance and image quality, with manufacturers pushing the envelope of performance through improved methods and processes. Luminance Gain is typically set by the manufacturer, and is the measure of how well an image intensifier can amplify light, and is one of the most critically important factors of image intensifier performance–in fact, the term “Failure,” in MTTF (“Mean Time To Failure”), commonly used to describe tube longevity and durability and expressed in terms of hours, is broadly understood to represent a roughly 50% loss of Luminance Gain. Nevertheless, Gain has typically been set by the manufacturers at a lower setting (in accordance with MIL-SPECs) due to concerns that too much Gain could lead to increased and undesirable noise in the image, which can be true with lower performance tubes. However, with modern advances in tube manufacturing processes and consistency, L3Harris has been able to increase average tube performance by over 50% in the last six years, with modern tubes having less noise overall, allowing L3Harris to increase the tube Gain, and therefore increasing the amount of useful information provided to the user without the same levels of increased noise. In order to maximize the benefits of the increased Gain and ensure image quality these new SuperGain systems from TNVC will ONLY be available with a minimum Figure of Merit (FOM) specification of 2376+, the highest minimum performance specification currently available to the wide market, and with actual average tube performance exceeding that of current USSOCOM specifications. Not only do SuperGain tubes provide improved light amplification and more information to the user, but effects can be felt on the user's end as well the overall brighter image allows the pupil to remain smaller, even in low light conditions where image intensifier tubes begin to dim, effectively improving the user's vision and allowing them to take full advantage of the information provided by the SuperGain tube as well as reduce eye fatigue from long term use. Meanwhile, neither image intensifier life, nor reliability are affected, with SuperGain tubes being every bit as durable and reliable as typical Unfilmed White Phosphor image intensifier tubes. It's amazing to consider how much analog image intensifier performance keeps progressing. In a world where digital technology is rapidly overtaking analog systems, analog image intensifiers are still the very best technology available for night vision and visual augmentation systems. It's shocking both how much and how little Generation 3 image intensifiers have changed since their introduction in the late-1980s. On the one hand, the same basic technological architecture of the Gen. 3 tube and photocathode remains on the other, the level of performance offered by these tubes versus what was available thirty plus years ago is amazing. Tube performance from U.S. manufacturers has shot up across the board. With the release of the SuperGain tubes, TNVC is able to offer the most advanced, most high performance, MIL-SPEC night vision systems currently available to our customers BOTH government and commercial. TNVC MIL-SPEC SuperGain Systems will be available in all TNV-branded night vision systems, including the TNV/BNVG-M Artemis, TNV/DTNVS, TNV/RNVG, and TNV/PVS-14 as well as L3Harris-manufactured BNVD (PVS-31) and BNVD-1531 systems, all with an increased 2376+ Minimum Figure of Merit (FOM) specification. Tubes are IN-STOCK NOW for TNV-built Systems and L3Harris BNVD-SG and BNVD-1531SG are available for Pre-Order LEARN MORE ABOUT SUPERGAIN SHOP SUPERGAIN NOW Experience the latest evolution of Image Intensified Night Vision devices from L3Harris, being used in the toughest conditions for the most critical missions by U.S. DoD and Tier 1 Special Operations worldwide. Now available, only at TNVC. |
|
Tactical Night Vision Corporation - TNVC, INC.
http://www.tnvc.com [email protected] (909) 796-7000 Ex. 201 |
[#1]
So the auto-gain is just turned up?
|
|
|
[#2]
The shop link is broke Attached File
|
|
Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America
|
[#3]
|
|
Tactical Night Vision Corporation - TNVC, INC.
http://www.tnvc.com [email protected] (909) 796-7000 Ex. 201 |
[#4]
|
|
Fuck Cancer. Love you Pop.
|
[#5]
Originally Posted By ngc1300: So the auto-gain is just turned up? View Quote That's some slightly mixed up terminology, but effectively yes, the maximum potential gain is nearly twice that of a standard Unfilmed tube. Dialing it down a little but more, "auto-gain" really more or less refers to the automatic brightness control that all modern Gen. 3 tubes have, whether or not they also have a manual gain control circuit. The SuperGain tubes will still behave "normally," they will brighten and dim depending on the amount of light input to the tube, but they will be "able" to get much brighter if the situation calls for it. ~Augee |
|
Tactical Night Vision Corporation - TNVC, INC.
http://www.tnvc.com [email protected] (909) 796-7000 Ex. 201 |
[#6]
|
|
|
[#7]
That's hawt! Price increase is not even heart stopping. Well played, lads. Well played.
|
|
|
[#8]
@TNVC_Augee Is the PVS-31 SuperGain the same as the PVS-31K? Just wondering what the technical designation is.
|
|
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
|
[#9]
Originally Posted By SMFdarkangel: @TNVC_Augee Is the PVS-31 SuperGain the same as the PVS-31K? Just wondering what the technical designation is. View Quote They are similar, but they’re not the same. The PVS-31K does use SuperGain tubes, however it is a FOM limited export system for an international military customer. The PVS-31 / BNVD SuperGain systems that we have available for Pre-Order are a new Part Number that was generated on TNVC’s request, and does not have any specific marketing nomenclature or technical designation from L3Harris other than the basic P/N and contract description. ~Augee |
|
Tactical Night Vision Corporation - TNVC, INC.
http://www.tnvc.com [email protected] (909) 796-7000 Ex. 201 |
[#10]
WANT
|
|
|
[#11]
Are there any downsides, practical or otherwise, to these new tubes aside from price? Is there any situation where the image might become too bright, noisy, etc. where a standard UWF tube would actually provide a better image?
|
|
|
[#12]
Originally Posted By bleaman225: Like these in my DTNVS?? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218654/07878E0B-6F32-4D36-9C38-91808A1AF302_jpe-2507733.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218654/C26E14D2-D965-4A47-AF3D-EEEC5FF88D25_jpe-2507734.JPG View Quote That’s aweswome!!! So, how do you like them with that extra gain? Do you find yourself using it most of time? Would be sweet to look through these |
|
|
[#13]
Originally Posted By dirtyboy333: That’s aweswome!!! So, how do you like them with that extra gain? Do you find yourself using it most of time? Would be sweet to look through these View Quote @dirtyboy333 They’re hands down the coolest night vision I’ve had, now bear in mind I’m coming from thin filmed green to these, most recently I previously had PVS15. It does seem to be a whiter white than other unfilmed tubes I’ve looked through. I’d say you can “see deeper into shadows” would be accurate. I just know it seems like I can see everything now with these, where darker areas would have been…darker before. The clarity of the image through them is just wild. I love them. Which side of PA are you? I’m in Philly suburbs. |
|
|
[#14]
Originally Posted By bleaman225: @dirtyboy333 They’re hands down the coolest night vision I’ve had, now bear in mind I’m coming from thin filmed green to these, most recently I previously had PVS15. It does seem to be a whiter white than other unfilmed tubes I’ve looked through. I’d say you can “see deeper into shadows” would be accurate. I just know it seems like I can see everything now with these, where darker areas would have been…darker before. The clarity of the image through them is just wild. I love them. Which side of PA are you? I’m in Philly suburbs. View Quote Man that makes me want them badly. Hahaha I’m on the opposite side of the state. Bout an hour south of Pittsburgh 😞. Thanks for the info tho! |
|
|
[#15]
@bleaman225
Your gain control is automatic isn't it? Does that much gain kick up the scintillation more than a 60k tube would when it decides to really crank up the brightness? How is the contrast with the whiter image? Have you tried it with a COTI? |
|
I'd buy that for a dollar!
|
[#16]
@spork:
Your gain control is automatic isn't it? Yes I have a DTNVS Does that much gain kick up the scintillation more than a 60k tube would when it decides to really crank up the brightness? Not that I can tell. Looks great even in near pitch black. Maybe I can lock myself in the basement this evening and try to get a cellphone photo. I don’t have anything to directly compare it to in the immediate future. How is the contrast with the whiter image? Pretty impressive, the image through them looks crispy. Have you tried it with a COTI? No I haven’t. This is an screenshot from a video that was filmed through a sister set of my tubes. Looks nice but a little blurry since it’s pulled out of a video. In person beats the example. Attached File |
|
|
[#17]
Thank you, @bleaman225
Hopefully I'll be getting my set soon. |
|
I'd buy that for a dollar!
|
[Last Edit: JohnDough]
[#18]
I would love to see more reviews of these. Preferably by people who don't work for anyone, and who have multiple systems and aren't emotionally attached to anything. Guys with panos, etc. where buying a new set of SG equipped binos is nothing and if they like them/don't like them, it's whatever to them and they'll share their thoughts. So far, I have heard pretty much everything from "they will blem before they leave the Hoffman" to "Special Ops uses them and has for 10 years", and all the in between from people with a vested interest in the NODS game. I just want more data from people who have zero vested interest. The most astounding thing is that...noone is talking about these. Good, bad, indifferent. I know there are more than 2 sets in ARFcommer hands by now, but literally 2 people who aren't TNVC employees have even posted their experiences with them, and a 3rd hasn't had a chance to use theirs yet and has not formed an opinion. Literally noone has WP UF and these side by side and is posting opinions, it's all first-time owners, or "my last set were thin filmed..." type owners. Both of which are understandably attached to their purchase, and not wrongfully so.
Sniper's Hide has a thread. It's full of conjecture and zero experience. The astronomy forum has a thread. The only guy with a SG tube is very unimpressed with it, but someone else told him to change some setting on his equipment and he thinks that might help. The rest of Google just turns up magazine/e-zine ads and short blurbs about them being released. It's a total black hole out there, and it's not like these haven't been around for at least 6mo commercially from others in small batch type situations, as well as TNVC dropping a TON on the market currently...and nothing. Not a peep. |
|
|
[#19]
Bump for more experiences.
|
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.