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Posted: 8/14/2018 6:52:36 AM EDT
[#1]
I have 5 now, if it passed I would have over 50
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Posted: 8/14/2018 6:56:21 AM EDT
[#2]
I would have bought a bunch day 1. Most would be out of stock trying to keep up with demand.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:11:40 AM EDT
[#3]
If HPA had passed, everything I own that could be suppressed would be suppressed.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:20:57 AM EDT
[#4]
In most of the countries where the serfs are allowed to have firearms, cans are an off-the-shelf item.
Its only in truly free countries where cans are heavily restricted and taxed and treated the same as evil machine guns. As a serf i would have many, as it is only polite and proper to not destroy the peace and tranquility of a shooting range, and i value my hearing. As a free man, in a free country, i have none, - the cost of freedom keeps me poor , and guns are icky. What did you say, the sound of freedom is deafening, please speak up. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:23:51 AM EDT
[#5]
It's not a money issue so much as a time and pain in the ass issue. If I could go into a shop, plunk down my money and walk out with a silencer I would own more than the 2 I have now.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:28:00 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd have one for every threaded gun I own.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:37:36 AM EDT
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I'd have one for every threaded gun I own. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:41:14 AM EDT
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The time + cost of stamp is enough of a deterrent that I have none. If it was OTC with a 4473 Id be making sure to save my money for a couple as the reward for saving up would be immediate instead of 12 months later.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 7:51:06 AM EDT
[#9]
It didn't and it literally resulted in the least possible number of cans being sold.
Worst Case Scenario, IMO. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:14:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Stamps haven't really been a factor in buying them, but the wait times definitely are a bad deal. If I didnt have to I might have more, just because it could be easier to impulse buy.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:14:49 AM EDT
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It's not a money issue so much as a time and pain in the ass issue. If I could go into a shop, plunk down my money and walk out with a silencer I would own more than the 2 I have now. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:16:05 AM EDT
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It's not a money issue so much as a time ... issue. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:16:49 AM EDT
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It didn't and it literally resulted in the least possible number of cans being sold. Worst Case Scenario, IMO. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:44:14 AM EDT
[#14]
All I know is this: if you want to own cans some day and you’re not buying them during this presidency, your chances of ever owning any is at risk.
HPA would have been cool, but it’s time to end the fantasy. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:49:56 AM EDT
[#15]
I would be making my own, lots of them.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:52:11 AM EDT
[#16]
I would be divorced and broke from spending all my money
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:52:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Probably not more than 2-3 additional over what I currently have.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:53:56 AM EDT
[#18]
How many would I own? All of them.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:57:21 AM EDT
[#19]
The wait is what gets me, plus having to notify to travel across state lines is somewhat annoying. Mostly the wait is what the issue is though, take away the wait AND the $200 per fee and everything I own would be suppressed minus the revolvers and some of the historical stuff.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:58:23 AM EDT
[#20]
Probably 1 or none given the amount of people who'd immediately buy one.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 8:59:50 AM EDT
[#21]
I would probably only own the two that I already have. If it passed, supply and demand would have kept me from getting any more for a while. We would have saved $200 on tax, but quality cans would be at or higher than msrp IF you could find the one you want. The cheap semi disposable ones would flood the market eventually. Actual r&d would suffer as companies complete to make the cheapest can that they could bring to the market. “Solvent traps”, aluminum “rifle” cans, and oil filter thread adapters would kill the major manufacturers. When you could but a $150 can and replace it 4 or 5 times before you get into the good inconel, stelite, and titanium cans’ price range quality and longevity would be a thing of the past. The only ones that I could see making it would be precision rifle cans like tbac where people would still demand the precision for accuracy and minimal poi shift. Most manufacturers would have to tool up to meet demand and could possibly lose in the end after the first few years rush.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:00:13 AM EDT
[#22]
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The wait is what gets me, plus having to notify to travel across state lines is somewhat annoying. Mostly the wait is what the issue is though, take away the wait AND the $200 per fee and everything I own would be suppressed minus the revolvers and some of the historical stuff. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:04:38 AM EDT
[#23]
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If HPA had passed, everything I own that could be suppressed would be suppressed. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:05:57 AM EDT
[#24]
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The wait is what gets me, plus having to notify to travel across state lines is somewhat annoying. Mostly the wait is what the issue is though, take away the wait AND the $200 per fee and everything I own would be suppressed minus the revolvers and some of the historical stuff. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:07:42 AM EDT
[#25]
I thought I had all the suppressors I 'needed' prior to 41F. Then I Saw some good deals and wound up buying 4 more post 41F. The waits for these was worse. I'm liking having certain specific niche cans now, but the wait is a deal killer. I've thrown a few Form 1s in the mix. Even if they dont save much money, you can spread the cost out over time and you have 3 years from time of tax paid to get a refund if you don't build.
If the HPA passed I'd have three times as many suppressors and dedicate them to specific hosts. My hosts are expanding faster than my cans, if that's any indication. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:09:16 AM EDT
[#26]
It’d be about the same for me. I may have only 3-4 more than I have now. It’s a money thing. I’ve got plenty of time and patience.
After 41F passed I dragged on fingerprints and photos for over a year before I finally got them done and ordered something this year. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:12:10 AM EDT
[#27]
I try not to live in fantasy land where politicians give back Constitutional rights that have already been taken away
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:13:17 AM EDT
[#28]
The wait time and extra cost are definitely factors for me. I have one SBR lower, and I build around that (multiple uppers) because I'm not going to pay an additional $200 per lower to have a few. I'd rather spend that $200 for ammo so I can shoot.
Same with suppressors. I went with a Specwar 762 so that I could use one suppressor on multiple hosts (300 Blackout, 5.56, 308, etc). If I could avoid the wait and cost, I'd probably have more than one. When I bought the Specwar, I figured I'd rather start the process right away rather than wait for HPA. Now I'm glad I did. I was really curious about how HPA would affect cost in the long run. I figured costs would rise at first as demand exceeded supply, but as time went by, I hoped prices would come down, which in turn would allow me to afford to buy more. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:14:37 AM EDT
[#29]
I would have bought a few more than I have since it’s been in play, but I didn’t sit around waiting for it to pass.
I didn’t put any faith in politicians doing something decent for the people. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:15:18 AM EDT
[#30]
I would have at least 2 more. a 9mm and a 556.
I currently have 22, .45 and a 762. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:17:05 AM EDT
[#31]
I would be tripping on them in my house because FNY and FUAC
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:19:07 AM EDT
[#32]
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It's not a money issue so much as a time and pain in the ass issue. If I could go into a shop, plunk down my money and walk out with a silencer I would own more than the 2 I have now. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:35:17 AM EDT
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I might actually have fewer if the HPA had passed. If you could just go out and buy them and then sell them if they didn't fit your needs without the double whammy tax rape more people would be on board. As it sits you either refrain from purchasing silencers or buy way too many.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:35:34 AM EDT
[#34]
Meh, I have taken advantage of The Deals Thread over the years. I'm flush with cans, but I can't seem to shake the urge for just one more.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:37:56 AM EDT
[#35]
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The wait is what gets me, plus having to notify to travel across state lines is somewhat annoying. Mostly the wait is what the issue is though, take away the wait AND the $200 per fee and everything I own would be suppressed minus the revolvers and some of the historical stuff. SBR’s, yes. Suppressors, no. The wait excuse is just that. An excuse. How long have people been waiting for the “HPA” to pass? I’ve had 6-7 stamps approved since the HPA started rumbling. I know people holding out for it to pass, it’s just dumb. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:49:15 AM EDT
[#36]
The funny thing is, the price of cans would just go up $200 or more due to demand and none would ever be in stock. So why wait. Just fill out the forms and play by the rules. I'm still waiting for the HPA, so wait time can't be a reason... When the HPA first was spoken about, I noticed the price of the suppressors I was looking at jumped in price over night.
It can be a double edged sword. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:51:14 AM EDT
[#37]
Unfortunately, we may never know what could happen if HPA passed. For me, the most exciting result of HPA passage would be the explosion of integrally suppressed firearms. Imagine a world where Remington, S&W and Ruger are all developing I.S. bolt actions, lever actions & semi-autos! That's a world I want to live in
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:53:40 AM EDT
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I would definitely in the beginning look into getting one for my AR (if the price was right), as it's the only firearm I have that could accept one (now) without getting the barrel threaded. I wouldn't get any of my other guns threaded, but pretty much all future firearm purchases would be suppressor-ready. I would definitely change my home defense pistol to one with a suppressor.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:55:25 AM EDT
[#39]
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It's not a money issue so much as a time and pain in the ass issue. If I could go into a shop, plunk down my money and walk out with a silencer I would own more than the 2 I have now. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 9:57:30 AM EDT
[#40]
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The funny thing is, the price of cans would just go up $200 or more due to demand and none would ever be in stock. So why wait. Just fill out the forms and play by the rules. I'm still waiting for the HPA, so wait time can't be a reason... When the HPA first was spoken about, I noticed the price of the suppressors I was looking at jumped in price over night. It can be a double edged sword. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:04:18 AM EDT
[#41]
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How many cans would you have now? At least 2 (I have none now) Would the $200 savings plus a simple 4473 made a difference? Yes Does waiting 6 - 8 months impact your decision? Yes |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:30:25 AM EDT
[#42]
If the HPA passed it would be like it was on the eve of Jan 20th, 2009 followed by eight years of................. Seriously. It would and you all know it. Nothing in stock. Folks flipping things immediately for insane markup, Q/C out the window as new to the game companies threw whatever they could get off the machines into shipping crates as fast as possible etc..........
The market would be saturated with so much junk and every mall ninja would have come out of the wood work for it all. Those of us in the know could weed out the HiPoints and Jennings cans but most folks won't know the difference. Then to see the look of disappointment on their faces at that first range outing with their new supposedly silent doorstops an paperweights. 
Anyway. The long term affect would be positive I think but if something like HPA ever does pass in the short term it's going to be the panic buying frenzy of poor QC crap all over again. Yes the current arrangement sucks. But the companies that make these things put just a bit more into the overall end product and I think its worth the hassle currently for a quality end product. Just my opinion. YMMV. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:34:01 AM EDT
[#43]
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The funny thing is, the price of cans would just go up $200 or more due to demand and none would ever be in stock. So why wait. Just fill out the forms and play by the rules. I'm still waiting for the HPA, so wait time can't be a reason... When the HPA first was spoken about, I noticed the price of the suppressors I was looking at jumped in price over night. It can be a double edged sword. 1- more makers would jump in 2- material costs could come done as makers wouldn’t have to use “lifetime” materials anymore. 3- F1 cans would be amazingly simple to build, and manufactures could offer a build it yourself kit. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:41:58 AM EDT
[#44]
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If HPA had passed, everything I own that could be suppressed would be suppressed. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:44:39 AM EDT
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How many cans would you have now? Would the $200 savings plus a simple 4473 made a difference? Does waiting 6 - 8 months impact your decision? To the suppressor companies, how has this impacted your bottom line? Are cans really just a novel item reserved for the minority of shooting enthusiasts? |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:45:58 AM EDT
[#46]
If it passed people would be saying if they were just cheaper I'd finally buy one.
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:46:19 AM EDT
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The funny thing is, the price of cans would just go up $200 or more due to demand and none would ever be in stock. So why wait. Just fill out the forms and play by the rules. I'm still waiting for the HPA, so wait time can't be a reason... When the HPA first was spoken about, I noticed the price of the suppressors I was looking at jumped in price over night. It can be a double edged sword. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:47:33 AM EDT
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That's a world I want to live in |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:48:03 AM EDT
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If HPA had passed, everything I own that could be suppressed would be suppressed. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:48:46 AM EDT
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I'd have one for every threaded gun I own. |
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