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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:07:28 PM EDT
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I'm basing my PDW build on the Barnes Precision PDW, with the MVB Industries ARC-X PDW stock, in .300 Blackout. Suppressor to be an Allen Engineering AEM2, most likely. Suppressor recessed into handguard for maximum handiness.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:23:16 PM EDT
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Sbr a ps90
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:27:26 PM EDT
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MP5 clone
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:35:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2018 10:38:47 PM EDT
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K conversion on a Scorpion is absolutely tiny.
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Posted: 5/13/2018 11:23:49 PM EDT
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These are both correct answers, with the mp5 being more correct Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/13/2018 11:37:49 PM EDT
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Brace or SBR a Glock. A Shockwave blade and an Endo Tactical adapter (for a Gen 3) makes a really nice setup and very light. Or the Mako stock and vfg seem very useful. Both options will require you to investigate some different sights, ideally a red dot as with one's eye that close to the rear sight, its hard to get an accurate picture.
I wouldn't discount the Scorpion. I handled one last week with the Tailhook brace and it felt very light, lighter than the Vector I'm most likely going to buy. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 8:23:24 AM EDT
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I have most of the guns mentioned. All are good options but the VZ61 is the only truly small pdw in my collection. Downsides are lack of optics, weaker Calliber but mine sure is fun and very easy to shoot and they are cheaper than most options listed and very quiet suppressed. You can have the gun, tax stamp, ammo and mags for less than $1000. Just a thought.
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Posted: 5/14/2018 8:30:31 AM EDT
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B&T TP9.
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Posted: 5/14/2018 9:15:28 AM EDT
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B&T TP9. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 9:20:04 AM EDT
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https://techsmithmfg.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fbt-tailhook-ready-brace-complete-no-tailhook
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If OP is game for a stamp, this is the only correct option. and since it stays classed as a pistol.....more legal in cars in more places. If op wanted to get a stamp, he be better off with a suppressor stamp. |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 6:35:48 PM EDT
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B&T has a PDW based on a 9mm pistol.
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Posted: 5/14/2018 6:40:39 PM EDT
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MP5 clone |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 6:41:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2018 6:53:50 PM EDT
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Lousy trigger, unreachable selector switch unless you have gorilla hands. I still want one. I do kind of want a skorpion (VZ61), but I worry that the stock is a bit too short, and I question how much it will get used. I think I'll get one eventually, but I think an ACP9 is next on my list |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 7:09:23 PM EDT
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The trigger is nothing to brag about, but I disagree with the selector being unreachable. I think its in an easy to reach location. I do kind of want a skorpion (VZ61), but I worry that the stock is a bit too short, and I question how much it will get used. I think I'll get one eventually, but I think an ACP9 is next on my list |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 8:27:43 PM EDT
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Lousy trigger, unreachable selector switch unless you have gorilla hands. I still want one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lousy trigger, unreachable selector switch unless you have gorilla hands. I still want one. Quoted:
The trigger is nothing to brag about, but I disagree with the selector being unreachable. I think its in an easy to reach location. I do kind of want a skorpion (VZ61), but I worry that the stock is a bit too short, and I question how much it will get used. I think I'll get one eventually, but I think an ACP9 is next on my list |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:36:03 AM EDT
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SBR a Mini Uzi?
Disclaimer: I have a Mini Uzi, but have left it with the 16.25" barrel. The dealer that sold me the gun was very happy with his SBR Mini Uzi, and highly recommended spending the money on the stamp, engraving, and short barrel. So, I am considering going that route eventually. Best of luck with whatever you decide to pursue. Other posts list excellent choices as well. MHO, YMMV, etc. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:17:14 AM EDT
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You want a PDW to play with, or an actual PDW to carry?
Rifles have certain legal advantages in Texas, so I carry a SUB-2000 in a small shoulder bag as my secondary. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:22:39 AM EDT
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I like the PS90 SBR idea.
But I also like my FMG 
Closest thing on the market is probably a B&T USW. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:23:02 AM EDT
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I wend down this rabbit hole myself. I realized I won't actually conceal carry it ,but I wanted something smaller than a rifle and bigger than a pistol. I put a Law Folder on my existing AR pistol in 300 and it's currently serving that role very well. Can still fit it in a backpack, but actually has rifle ballistics.
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:08:52 PM EDT
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VZ-61
B&T TP-9 Mini Uzi Glock with micro Roni I own all of the above. They all work well, with tradeoffs. I'd like a USW but I think I am going to build my own version instead.. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:19:47 PM EDT
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Also, when you look at the numbers, this guy is a pretty good option too:
Not much bigger than a mini uzi and significantly lighter... 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:24:57 PM EDT
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I like the PS90 SBR idea. But I also like my FMG
Closest thing on the market is probably a B&T USW. https://www.all4shooters.com/en/imgres/1200x/Shooting/pro-zone/B-and-T-Universal-Service-Weapon-9mm-pistol/B-and-T-universal-service-weapon-pistol.jpg Kwa fpg's coming i might get one to attempt to convert. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:30:26 PM EDT
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Lousy trigger, unreachable selector switch unless you have gorilla hands. I still want one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:16:00 PM EDT
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Just to be clear this is just another gun to add to my collection but also maybe take the role of a nightstand gun.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:17:21 PM EDT
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Sbr a ps90 
Love mine |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:19:12 PM EDT
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Sbr a P320 and get the B&t usw stock. That, an rmr, omega 9k can and a weaponlight. Cheaper version of the usw a-1. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 2:35:14 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/158773/BF63680D-B2EC-46EF-901F-7BA8BC4A0F9E-550674.jpg Sbr a P320 and get the B&t usw stock. That, an rmr, omega 9k can and a weaponlight. Cheaper version of the usw a-1. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 6:27:38 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/158773/BF63680D-B2EC-46EF-901F-7BA8BC4A0F9E-550674.jpg Sbr a P320 and get the B&t usw stock. That, an rmr, omega 9k can and a weaponlight. Cheaper version of the usw a-1. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 7:42:42 AM EDT
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How is your fmg holding up? Is it functioning flawlessly yet? Anything you would change for whatever reason. There is another run of f Kwa fpg's coming i might get one to attempt to convert. I've opened up the ejection port as much as I'm comfortable with for now, still not as open as something like the roni 
Worst case, I ruin a top cover. Good to know there will be more available soon. 
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Posted: 5/21/2018 8:04:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2018 8:27:51 AM EDT
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Any mods to get the p80 to fit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Any mods to get the p80 to fit? Not too bad, but you should go slowly and check fit often. It seems like the slide on a P80 sits a little higher than a stock Glock. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 8:51:33 AM EDT
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Also, when you look at the numbers, this guy is a pretty good option too: Not much bigger than a mini uzi and significantly lighter... http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MG_4679.jpg eta - for those who don't follow bullpups, that's the Kel Tec RDB-S Survival. OP, also consider the CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Pistol Micro w/ Brace. It's a very small, 4" barrel Scorpion with a brace, so no NFA required. http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s2-pistol-micro-w-brace/ But I like my PS90, it's a good PDW. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 4:39:58 PM EDT
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Kel Tec CMR 30 with barrel cut down.
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Posted: 5/21/2018 4:49:53 PM EDT
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Kel Tec CMR 30 with barrel cut down. For now.... Would be neat if KT developed a 5.7 version. |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 8:46:21 PM EDT
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Would that work with a Glock 17L 3rd Gen? |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 8:56:20 PM EDT
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@ajm1911 Would that work with a Glock 17L 3rd Gen? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would that work with a Glock 17L 3rd Gen? The CAA website only lists 17 as a supported model for the micro roni, so I think that the 17L's extra slide length would not work with the metal part (like a nose cone?) at the front of the micro roni. The regular roni (below) lists 34 and 35 as supported models, but even then the 17L is longer, correct? 
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Posted: 5/21/2018 9:04:11 PM EDT
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@Miami_JBT The CAA website only lists 17 as a supported model for the micro roni, so I think that the 17L's extra slide length would not work with the metal part (like a nose cone?) at the front of the micro roni. The regular roni (below) lists 34 and 35 as supported models, but even then the 17L is longer, correct? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2194/4391/products/0001402_roni-stabilizer-roni-stab_1024x1024.jpg?v=1513889815 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would that work with a Glock 17L 3rd Gen? The CAA website only lists 17 as a supported model for the micro roni, so I think that the 17L's extra slide length would not work with the metal part (like a nose cone?) at the front of the micro roni. The regular roni (below) lists 34 and 35 as supported models, but even then the 17L is longer, correct? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2194/4391/products/0001402_roni-stabilizer-roni-stab_1024x1024.jpg?v=1513889815 |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 9:08:13 PM EDT
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Honey badger ish build? Q is coming out with parts shortly
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Posted: 5/21/2018 9:15:52 PM EDT
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Yup @ajm1911, the G17L is six inches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would that work with a Glock 17L 3rd Gen? The CAA website only lists 17 as a supported model for the micro roni, so I think that the 17L's extra slide length would not work with the metal part (like a nose cone?) at the front of the micro roni. The regular roni (below) lists 34 and 35 as supported models, but even then the 17L is longer, correct? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2194/4391/products/0001402_roni-stabilizer-roni-stab_1024x1024.jpg?v=1513889815 |
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Posted: 5/25/2018 10:54:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No mechanical failures yet, still get the occasional stovepipe due to the top cover along with the Glock random ejection pattern. I've opened up the ejection port as much as I'm comfortable with for now, still not as open as something like the roni
Worst case, I ruin a top cover. Good to know there will be more available soon. https://www.popularairsoft.com/files/imagesmore/caa_micro_roni_stab.jpg Thanks, for all your help! |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 10:01:52 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/158773/BF63680D-B2EC-46EF-901F-7BA8BC4A0F9E-550674.jpg Sbr a P320 and get the B&t usw stock. That, an rmr, omega 9k can and a weaponlight. Cheaper version of the usw a-1. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: About as close as we'll get to a MP7. For now.... Would be neat if KT developed a 5.7 version. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:46:38 PM EDT
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P-90 SBR or Q HoneyBadger...
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:52:21 PM EDT
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Sig mpx
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Posted: 5/27/2018 7:45:23 AM EDT
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No mechanical failures yet, still get the occasional stovepipe due to the top cover along with the Glock random ejection pattern. I've opened up the ejection port as much as I'm comfortable with for now, still not as open as something like the roni
Worst case, I ruin a top cover. Good to know there will be more available soon. https://www.popularairsoft.com/files/imagesmore/caa_micro_roni_stab.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How is your fmg holding up? Is it functioning flawlessly yet? Anything you would change for whatever reason. There is another run of f Kwa fpg's coming i might get one to attempt to convert. I've opened up the ejection port as much as I'm comfortable with for now, still not as open as something like the roni
Worst case, I ruin a top cover. Good to know there will be more available soon. https://www.popularairsoft.com/files/imagesmore/caa_micro_roni_stab.jpg Granted you're dealing with something unique.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 4:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I found one of these helped with the random ejection I was having with my Glock. https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Details/191895 Granted you're dealing with something unique. |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 5:48:42 PM EDT
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Some amusement to be had at Glock's PDW attempt
http://soldiersystems.net/2018/05/29/sofic-18-possible-glock-sub-compact-weapon-concept/ |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 7:28:18 PM EDT
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