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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:25:06 PM EDT
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The Rex Silentium MG10-458 is 19oz. The taper mount Bushwacker 46 is 16oz. The Hybrid isn’t overweight for its size and materials. For intermittent shooting schedules an all aluminum can could be made. Even an all titanium Form 1 1.5” x 8” will be around 12 ounces. Weights go up with a booster housing and piston/spring assembly.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:30:49 PM EDT
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Wierd. I thought the Hybrid was surprisingly light. You can shave a few ounces by using the anchor brake instead of the flat cap.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:46:18 PM EDT
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No idea what the Griffin Bushwacker weighs
RexSilentium will do a 458 in whatever length you want |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:52:38 PM EDT
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Rex Silentium MG7 458 is a good choice, only weighs a hair over 12 ounces. Will have them back in-stock in the next 2 weeks.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:58:34 PM EDT
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Rex Silentium MG7 458 is a good choice, only weighs a hair over 12 ounces. Will have them back in-stock in the next 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 5:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks like it would be good for rifle, but not pistol/handgun, correct? But it’s 1.7” OD I wouldn’t use it on pistols |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 6:28:54 PM EDT
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Why not the Rugged Obsidian 45?
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Posted: 2/17/2020 8:25:49 PM EDT
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Wierd. I thought the Hybrid was surprisingly light. You can shave a few ounces by using the anchor brake instead of the flat cap. I will very occasionally shoot a Hybrid on Glock 20 or 21, but for pistols the 1.375” diameter suppressors seem more appropriate. If I had to pick one it would probably be the Obsidian 45. Its close to 12 ounces full size. Depending on whether pistols or rifles are the driver determines the best choice(s) in terms of weight, length, diameter. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:33:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With Hansohn Brothers .30 ti front cap and ti direct thread mount my Hybrid weighs 14.7 ounces. Sure a Rex MG7 weighs less because it’s a k-can only 5/8 as long with half as many baffles. By the time you buy an additional booster housing for pistols the Rex costs start closing the gap. I will very occasionally shoot a Hybrid on Glock 20 or 21, but for pistols the 1.375” diameter suppressors seem more appropriate. If I had to pick one it would probably be the Obsidian 45. Its close to 12 ounces full size. Depending on whether pistols or rifles are the driver determines the best choice(s) in terms of weight, length, diameter. Edit: The obsidian 45 looks really good. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 10:06:47 AM EDT
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Rex Silentium MG7 458 is a good choice, only weighs a hair over 12 ounces. Will have them back in-stock in the next 2 weeks. We could make half a Bushwacker 46 at 10 ounces, but it won't make it a good choice for a customer. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 10:40:54 AM EDT
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At 5.6in length, it is missing inches it needs to even remotely attempt to suppress 45-70 adequately. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 11:29:09 AM EDT
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That’s why I compared the Hybrid to the similar sized MG10 and Bushwacker. A light k-can out on the end of a long barrel, closed breech big bore cartridge gun is great for taking the edge off supers with the crack out in front anyway, but if you shoot heavy subs you will still want some volume through length to get a nice quiet thumper gun.
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Posted: 2/18/2020 2:46:10 PM EDT
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So the obsidian wouldnt be good for rifles, and the hybrid wouldnt be good for pistols. Even though both market them as such. I guess theres no having cake and eating it too?
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Posted: 2/18/2020 2:49:51 PM EDT
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So the obsidian wouldnt be good for rifles, and the hybrid wouldnt be good for pistols. Even though both market them as such. I guess theres no having cake and eating it too? |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 5:09:09 PM EDT
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So the obsidian wouldnt be good for rifles, and the hybrid wouldnt be good for pistols. Even though both market them as such. I guess theres no having cake and eating it too? The Griffin Optimus works for up to 9mm. Once you get to .45 the bigger diameter tube really helps with full power, non-subsonic loads, or you have to get much longer than that 8-9” sweet spot. I think the Bushwacker is a 1.5” tube. Hybrid is workable on a nightstand gun with a red dot. It’s much better for subguns. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 5:23:06 PM EDT
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You can get close with a modular 1.375” diameter, all titanium (excepted for the first 2-3 baffles) user serviceable modular set up. I bet ECCO Machine has tried something close. The Griffin Optimus works for up to 9mm. Once you get to .45 the bigger diameter tube really helps with full power, non-subsonic loads, or you have to get much longer than that 8-9” sweet spot. I think the Bushwacker is a 1.5” tube. Hybrid is workable on a nightstand gun with a red dot. It’s much better for subguns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the obsidian wouldnt be good for rifles, and the hybrid wouldnt be good for pistols. Even though both market them as such. I guess theres no having cake and eating it too? The Griffin Optimus works for up to 9mm. Once you get to .45 the bigger diameter tube really helps with full power, non-subsonic loads, or you have to get much longer than that 8-9” sweet spot. I think the Bushwacker is a 1.5” tube. Hybrid is workable on a nightstand gun with a red dot. It’s much better for subguns. Works great on a bedside gun, but without the RDS, it’d be nearly impossible to aim.......and it’s fucking heavy for a pistol can.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 7:46:10 PM EDT
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There goes my hopes and dreams
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:13:53 AM EDT
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Would the Obsidian 45 be good for .357 Mag from a rifle?
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:22:36 AM EDT
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I don't hate my Hybrid on my xdm45, though its certainly not optimal for that. The suppressor sights sit just a hair above flush with the top of the can, so "aiming through" is easy enough and I get good hits. Yeah, it's a bit heavy no doubt, but boy does that 45 sit flat with all that heft out front! On a G17/19 its a bit more gangly though. Havent tried it on 45-70 yet, barrel isnt threaded. Its good on my scorpion and some others, so as was mentioned, it really is a "jack of all, master of none" can. Still, the utility is nice.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:39:04 AM EDT
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Rex Silentium MG7 458 is a good choice, only weighs a hair over 12 ounces. Will have them back in-stock in the next 2 weeks. thanks! |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:01:39 PM EDT
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Would the Obsidian 45 be good for .357 Mag from a rifle? |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:02:46 PM EDT
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How quiet can you really get a 45-70 with a hybrid? Would a fast powder work better? I know it will never be .22 lr quiet, but how low will it go.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:29:08 PM EDT
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How is this on 450B? Looking for something for it that I could also put on a 9mm/.45 PCC also. thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rex Silentium MG7 458 is a good choice, only weighs a hair over 12 ounces. Will have them back in-stock in the next 2 weeks. thanks! |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 12:15:08 AM EDT
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The hybrid should do what you are wanting. It functions on my beretta and 1911. You will need a RDS to aim though.
It’s a decent suppressor. I use it mostly on rifles but will put it on a pistol occasionally. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:18:34 PM EDT
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User serviceable
Any and every mounting interface you could want Top quality materials Great price Lots of painstaking R&D The Bushwhacker 46 is a phenomenal can and it should definitely be worth a few minutes of tour time to check out.  Bushwhacker® 46 - Press Release |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:39:14 PM EDT
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User serviceable Any and every mounting interface you could want Top quality materials Great price Lots of painstaking R&D The Bushwhacker 46 is a phenomenal can and it should definitely be worth a few minutes of tour time to check out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XanSxIOUEs |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:50:48 PM EDT
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I’m very pleased with the performance of the Hybrid, however I’m certain I would have purchased the Bushwacker instead, had it been available. A user serviceable Hybrid is how I view the Bushwacker & Griffin’s sound testing video solidified my thoughts.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:45:57 PM EDT
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I’m very pleased with the performance of the Hybrid, however I’m certain I would have purchased the Bushwacker instead, had it been available. A user serviceable Hybrid is how I view the Bushwacker & Griffin’s sound testing video solidified my thoughts. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 10:23:55 PM EDT
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I am in the process of building a 375 Raptor and would like to have a 338 Lapua (not sure why with the range limits that are easily accessible). I think the Griffin Armament Bushwacker 46 is just what I need. I have two of their cans already and they work great. I have an Alpha and Revolution 45.
Mike |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 11:45:07 PM EDT
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User serviceable Any and every mounting interface you could want Top quality materials Great price Lots of painstaking R&D The Bushwhacker 46 is a phenomenal can and it should definitely be worth a few minutes of tour time to check out. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 12:27:09 AM EDT
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Would the Obsidian 45 be good for .357 Mag from a rifle? |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with this. 45-70 is loud unless you dive deep into hand loading. You need volume for it. That's also why I wouldn't run the Obsidian with it. The Obsidian is a fantastic pistol can, but 45-70 can... not something I would do. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, so Rugged lists the Obsidian as rated for the .45-70, why would they rate it as such if it won't handle it? Are you implying that they aren't being honest, or they don't know what they are talking about? Honestly, I'd like to know. Disclaimer: I don't own a .45-70, so this is just technical interest on my part. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:59:45 PM EDT
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So basically its a moderator, rather than a suppressor in that particular role?
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