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Posted: 3/21/2020 2:23:02 PM EDT
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Cut to length (or not) with a hacksaw, then take any old file and file off the sharp edges. It doesn’t have to be perfect.
Or do what I do and use the Mk 1 eyeball to look through the bore and mounted suppressor. Honestly, if there’s an issue with alignment you should be done to see it. |
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Posted: 3/21/2020 2:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cut to length (or not) with a hacksaw, then take any old file and file off the sharp edges. It doesn’t have to be perfect. Or do what I do and use the Mk 1 eyeball to look through the bore and mounted suppressor. Honestly, if there’s an issue with alignment you should be done to see it. I’m mainly using .30 cal cans on 5.56 or direct thread rimfire so most of my alignment has been check visually or in conjunction with shining a light down the bore and looking at the projection out of the end of the can. With looking at a 5.56 can and using my .30 cal cans on .30 cal guns...those tolerances are going to be a lot closer so I figured it would be a good idea to put a little more effort into those applications. |
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Posted: 3/21/2020 2:52:01 PM EDT
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Two easy steps:
1. Cut them 2. Chamfer the ends |
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Posted: 3/22/2020 2:54:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two easy steps: 1. Cut them 2. Chamfer the ends Thank you for not sparing any detail! 
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Posted: 3/22/2020 3:33:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for not sparing any detail! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Two easy steps: 1. Cut them 2. Chamfer the ends Thank you for not sparing any detail! This and also Make sure the rods aren’t bent. |
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Posted: 3/22/2020 7:55:43 AM EDT
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Hacksaw and a file is all you need. The edge just needs "broke" enough that there is no burr.
Mill bastard 6" file is fine. |
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Posted: 3/22/2020 8:01:19 AM EDT
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Cool idea.
What is the correct size for 5.56? I'm sure I can figure it out, but I'd have to use all my fingers, and most of my toes. |
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Posted: 3/22/2020 8:45:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool idea. What is the correct size for 5.56? I'm sure I can figure it out, but I'd have to use all my fingers, and most of my toes. McMaster Carr 0.2188 part #8893K193 |
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Posted: 3/22/2020 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McMaster Carr 0.2188 part #8893K193 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cool idea. What is the correct size for 5.56? I'm sure I can figure it out, but I'd have to use all my fingers, and most of my toes. McMaster Carr 0.2188 part #8893K193 Thank you. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:34:25 AM EDT
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Anyone have a part # for .30 cal rods and .358 bore rods while we are at it? This would be a pretty comprehensive thread if those part numbers were included.
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Posted: 3/24/2020 3:48:37 PM EDT
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Coming to the Griffin Website later this week: less expensive, more caliber options
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Posted: 3/24/2020 7:39:09 PM EDT
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Nice
Price? |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 8:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice Price? I just checked, and I'm building the product listing on our site now (live for sale later this week). They will be available in .22 Cal, 6.5mm, 6.8mm, .30 Cal, .338 Cal, 9mm, and .45 Cal for $69.95 |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 6:06:19 AM EDT
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I didn't cut anything, just took the end to a grinding wheel and rounded it. Then, since they are smooth AF already, I polished them with 'Mothers' Aluminum polish, and then rubbed them down with Mobil 1 before inserting. Worked great. .223 and .300 for ~$12 and 2 days.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 9:29:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just checked, and I'm building the product listing on our site now (live for sale later this week). They will be available in .22 Cal, 6.5mm, 6.8mm, .30 Cal, .338 Cal, 9mm, and .45 Cal for $69.95 Each?? |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 9:41:13 AM EDT
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Was that $6.95 each? Cause your not gonna sell any at $70!
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Posted: 3/25/2020 10:03:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that $6.95 each? Cause your not gonna sell any at $70! Well, to be fair, people buy the Geissele version for ~$75. I’m not buying one, but somebody will. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 10:47:28 AM EDT
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I stand corrected...someone will buy them at that price...just not me.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 12:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stand corrected...someone will buy them at that price...just not me. agree, i saw some of the rods that they are offering its just not worth it. maybe if it was $30 ok but shesh all they are doing is mainly cutting to length, etching their brand and possibly qc on making sure they are straight. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 3:43:56 PM EDT
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I just got my 4 rods from McMaster-Carr (.22, 5.56/.223, 7.62/.308, and 9mm) delivered. All perfectly straight and they were $37.16 total including tax and shipping.
I like widgets that do the same job as an expensive, over priced, engraved, widget. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 3:48:15 PM EDT
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what part numbers for the 4 that you got?
Very good idea, glad i stumbled in here... |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 3:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what part numbers for the 4 that you got? Very good idea, glad i stumbled in here... 8893K193 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2188" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 5.56/.223 8893K191 Tight-Tolerance Multipurpose O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2120" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for .22 LR 8893K219 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2969" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 7.62/.308 8893K231 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.3438" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 9mm |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 4:13:44 PM EDT
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I own plenty of drill rod. I use it for making drill bits and indicating bores.
Never, not once, have I ever used it to see if a suppressor was mounting and aligning properly. I've always looked down the bore and eyed it. If there's an issue, my eye is absolutely good enough to point it out and, at this point, what's a rod going to tell me? $70+ is a hard pill to swallow. especially when you were born equipped w/ a comparable instrument 
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Posted: 3/25/2020 4:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Each?? That’s what I’m wondering...gonna get expensive buying a couple of them for various hosts over the mcmastercarr stuff |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 6:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: agree, i saw some of the rods that they are offering its just not worth it. maybe if it was $30 ok but shesh all they are doing is mainly cutting to length, etching their brand and possibly qc on making sure they are straight. I've debated buying one to see what they are actually selling for that price. If they are hardened and centerless grinding them to a non off the shelf number I'd say that's about fair. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 7:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coming to the Griffin Website later this week: less expensive, more caliber options https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89722118_4974916488577_6575032469848850432_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_oc=AQlkRjo-4o9xGiY074i6Qu2FlxPFDJVKYypA1-aiMMdu3_GINxCRizD4gaGlEqoBrWg&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=2841688bdd688c4e9170f5bf17a0e88a&oe=5EA17634 Looks cool. Make them $40 each. |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 10:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Each?? Gold inlay? |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 11:34:16 PM EDT
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Make sure they are straight as well. I bought a dozen 36" pieces of 1/4" Drill rod for a different project. For giggles I checked them for straightness. Not great.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:03:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make sure they are straight as well. I bought a dozen 36" pieces of 1/4" Drill rod for a different project. For giggles I checked them for straightness. Not great. I'm not a metal guru, and only have the McMaster ones, but - if it isn't straight, wouldn't that "false negative" and cause you not to shoot an otherwise concentric can? Could it be bent and indicate perfect concentricity through the end cap? |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could it be bent and indicate perfect concentricity through the end cap? Yes. If it had a very minor bend and you inserted it so that the bend went in the opposite direction of how your barrel/silencer threads were off, it could appear centered. Assuming you don’t rotate the the rod around to check multiple times because it looked good the first time. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 11:47:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. If it had a very minor bend and you inserted it so that the bend went in the opposite direction of how your barrel/silencer threads were off, it could appear centered. Assuming you don’t rotate the the rod around to check multiple times because it looked good the first time. Gotcha, makes sense, thanks. I eye-balled, used a light, then did the rod and turned it (without knowing about bending, just did it). My .300BLK was G2G and shot fine. Waiting on an LVPO for the 5.56, so will be sure to turn that rod. Thanks again! |
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Posted: 4/9/2020 2:05:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just checked, and I'm building the product listing on our site now (live for sale later this week). They will be available in .22 Cal, 6.5mm, 6.8mm, .30 Cal, .338 Cal, 9mm, and .45 Cal for $69.95 No, they are not |
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Posted: 4/9/2020 2:27:43 PM EDT
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A thread of disappearing posts....
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Posted: 4/9/2020 2:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: agree, i saw some of the rods that they are offering its just not worth it. maybe if it was $30 ok but shesh all they are doing is mainly cutting to length, etching their brand and possibly qc on making sure they are straight. Here you go $20-$30 |
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Posted: 4/9/2020 4:40:44 PM EDT
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My McMaster carr rod for .22lr came in with a dog leg.
So, in my search to find one that fits my .22lr, I found someone on the web that uses injector pins. I'm ordering them from here.. 13/64 for .22lr. 10" rod was less than $4. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 4:20:48 PM EDT
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For what it’s worth, you can get them for between $20-30 at CNCwarrior. Worth getting a professional one in my opinion.
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Posted: 4/12/2020 4:23:11 PM EDT
[#37]
FYI, I ordered two from McMaster-Carr and they both seem pretty darn straight to me, based on a roll test across the cast iron top of my table saw. About $5 each.
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Posted: 4/12/2020 7:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My McMaster carr rod for .22lr came in with a dog leg. So, in my search to find one that fits my .22lr, I found someone on the web that uses injector pins. I'm ordering them from here.. 13/64 for .22lr. 10" rod was less than $4. Assume same for .223? is length also listed there and Im missing it? |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 7:52:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assume same for .223? is length also listed there and Im missing it? The length is in the product description, so you have options for 10" and 14" McMaster has options for 3' and 6' |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 9:31:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assume same for .223? is length also listed there and Im missing it? My 5.56 alignment rod's diameter is ever so slightly too large for my .22lr compact. I believe you want the 7/32 for .223/5.56. So for a 10", you would go with the 7/32x10. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 9:07:10 AM EDT
[#41]
thank you everyone. grabbing a few calibers.
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Posted: 4/14/2020 10:48:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 8893K193 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2188" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 5.56/.223 8893K191 Tight-Tolerance Multipurpose O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2120" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for .22 LR 8893K219 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.2969" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 7.62/.308 8893K231 Tight-Tolerance Oil-Hardening O1 Tool Steel Rod, 0.3438" Diameter, 3 Feet Long for 9mm Bumping this up..any in there that will work for 6.5 Grendel |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 12:10:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My McMaster carr rod for .22lr came in with a dog leg. So, in my search to find one that fits my .22lr, I found someone on the web that uses injector pins. I'm ordering them from here.. 13/64 for .22lr. 10" rod was less than $4. Did you cut the handle off? It would be fine for a handgun but won't work on a rifle. Dan |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 1:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you cut the handle off? It would be fine for a handgun but won't work on a rifle. Dan I did. Then I cut it in half, as I only needed 7-8". Still no-go. The rod from DME came in. Perfectly straight. The nitride makes it nice and smooth as well. A little sloppy in the bore, but not too much play that it wont work. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 1:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool idea. What is the correct size for 5.56? I'm sure I can figure it out, but I'd have to use all my fingers, and most of my toes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 2:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did. Then I cut it in half, as I only needed 7-8". Still no-go. The rod from DME came in. Perfectly straight. The nitride makes it nice and smooth as well. A little sloppy in the bore, but not too much play that it wont work. No go? Still wouldn’t fit down the bore I assume. Dan |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 2:56:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No go? Still wouldn’t fit down the bore I assume. Dan I think we may be talking about two different things. My KBA 5.56 alignment rod is too fat to fit down the bore of my .22lr pistol. Fits my 5.56 rifles just fine. The rod I ordered from McMaster specifically for my .22 was crooked and I tried cutting it down to find a straight section without success. That's when I decided to try the rod from DME. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 3:05:23 PM EDT
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I use a carbon fiber arrow shaft for .30 cal. bores
Guaranteed less than 0.001” run-out, and cheap. I found one that was a perfect slip-fit in a .30 cal bore. |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 7:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My McMaster carr rod for .22lr came in with a dog leg. So, in my search to find one that fits my .22lr, I found someone on the web that uses injector pins. I'm ordering them from here.. 13/64 for .22lr. 10" rod was less than $4. gotta say thanks. would send you a beer if i could. mine came in and look to be perfect all for $18. 
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:16:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: gotta say thanks. would send you a beer if i could. mine came in and look to be perfect all for $18. Those are nice - what calibers did you get (to lazy to covert decimal to fraction, lol). |
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