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Posted: 11/7/2018 10:35:52 PM EDT
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25gr +/- 0.5gr Benchmark, Varget, or H4895 should be a node.
May need to jump more to pucker the groups - it's the slickest bullet in it's weight class. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:07:48 PM EDT
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For that bullet 24.5-H335 and 23.3 AA 2015. Or start with the same loads as 52&53gr match bullets on Hodgens site.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:14:58 PM EDT
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Thanks for the responses. I have H4895, IMR4895, Benchmark, and Varget all available. I may load a few with each powder and see what it likes the best.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 6:56:03 AM EDT
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Extremely interested because of the BC and low fragmentation velocity.
We had planned to use these in our sbr's once we got a load developed. I don't have my notes and our testing was really limited but we hadn't found the sweet spot when something shiny drug us away. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:35:50 AM EDT
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Just curious if anyone uses 53gr V-Max bullets for .223? I searched and found some data from other loaders, but Hornady's load data is not available on their website (they want you to buy their manual). I know every gun is different, but just curious for those who load this bullet what they use for powder and charge and their results. My pet load with these in multiple AR's uses H322 powder, 2.20 coal, with accuracy below max in most instances. I would go so far to type that if you can't find an accuracy node with this combo, it's not the combo's fault, ymmv I would use the varget on something else, I am not a fan of it any more for accuracy loads, there are just too many better options that meter better. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 10:29:41 AM EDT
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For me it was 28gr of CFE 223. Probably need to tune it for your gun.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to save some money, while still getting the same performance you will get from the 53g V-max....... consider the 50 g Z-max (code 22262) They are exactly the same as the 50 g vmax boat tail, but are marketed with a green zombie tip and sold in 500 packs...they are the same bullet, and at 12 cents, cheaper. Great bullets. My pet load with these in multiple AR's uses H322 powder, 2.20 coal, with accuracy below max in most instances. I would go so far to type that if you can't find an accuracy node with this combo, it's not the combo's fault, ymmv I would use the varget on something else, I am not a fan of it any more for accuracy loads, there are just too many better options that meter better. Varget is fine for single stage loading. The Lee PPM is hard to beat for thrown charges of extruded powder. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:36:51 PM EDT
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Thanks for the responses. I have H4895, IMR4895, Benchmark, and Varget all available. I may load a few with each powder and see what it likes the best. Of your listed powders I liked 26gr gr of IMR 4895 but didn't like how it measured. I liked H4895 for measuring and group shooting with that bullet 26.4gr's. I also liked IMR 4320 @ 26grs, measures nice also if you have any laying around, try this one too. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 3:52:27 PM EDT
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The Zombie packaging was discontinued by Hornady a couple years ago. Some distributors may still have some as some retailers may, too.
A good value for sure! The sad thing is that Hornady does not package the 22 Cal 53 Gr V-Max in bigger boxes like the 40/50/55 gr V-Maxes come 250 ct boxes. To the OP do proper load work up so the load suits your gun! Varget H4895 H322 N133 TAC Are all good options |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 4:37:39 PM EDT
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I will be loading single stage and measuring each charge, so metering isn't a big deal, but I do agree that the Lee PPM handles longer extruded powders pretty nicely. I am thinking loading a few up with IMR4895 and H4895, and may try 5-10 with Benchmark as well. Will be shooting for good groups at 100 yards to start with.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:02:42 PM EDT
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Has been along time since I've posted, but working on some loads with this and CFE 223. Seating that bullet to mag length puts it down towards the bottom of the shoulder so be careful so not to compress powder.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 3:45:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 9:01:27 PM EDT
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23.5gr Reloder10x is accurate as all get out and smoking fast for Varmint kills
I used a Mossberg MVP bolt gun, 24” barrel w/ 1:9 twist. It was amazing with that combo |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 2:49:14 PM EDT
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23.5gr Reloder10x is accurate as all get out and smoking fast for Varmint kills I used a Mossberg MVP bolt gun, 24” barrel w/ 1:9 twist. It was amazing with that combo kwg |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:10:39 PM EDT
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23.0 gn of H322
24.5 gn of H335 Those are mild, but very consistent across multiple AR's that I own. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:24:31 PM EDT
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I'm using 26.5 grains of Varget with an 18" Noveske. Velocity is at 3080 FPS. Group size is at 0.8" at 100 yards.
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:58:31 PM EDT
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I'm using 26.5 grains of Varget with an 18" Noveske. Velocity is at 3080 FPS. Group size is at 0.8" at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 8:44:56 PM EDT
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How far up the neck is that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm using 26.5 grains of Varget with an 18" Noveske. Velocity is at 3080 FPS. Group size is at 0.8" at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 3:44:06 AM EDT
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I'm using 26.5 grains of Varget with an 18" Noveske. Velocity is at 3080 FPS. Group size is at 0.8" at 100 yards. I have a box of the 53's so I'm watching this thread closely. 
Motor |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:27:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to say that seems slow. I get 3400 fps using 50gr V-Max but I do have a 4" barrel atvantage. I have a box of the 53's so I'm watching this thread closely.
Motor |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:44:17 AM EDT
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23.5gr Reloder10x is accurate as all get out and smoking fast for Varmint kills I used a Mossberg MVP bolt gun, 24” barrel w/ 1:9 twist. It was amazing with that combo I went back to XBR, same accuracy, doesn't foul the gun. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 2:30:27 PM EDT
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I've had excellent accuracy with 10x myself with 55gr SP's but found it to be a very dirty powder. Have you noticed this? I went back to XBR, same accuracy, doesn't foul the gun. 
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Posted: 1/4/2019 4:43:53 PM EDT
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Bought my first lb of CFE-223 today. I'm going to try it with the 53gr V-Max and maybe some others.
Judging by the maximum charges I'm guessing it's a high density ball powder which also means it will dispense perfectly from my Uniflow. I may try it with the 50gr V-Max too if it will match the velocity I'm currently getting with IMR-4198. Motor |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 11:40:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bought my first lb of CFE-223 today. I'm going to try it with the 53gr V-Max and maybe some others. Judging by the maximum charges I'm guessing it's a high density ball powder which also means it will dispense perfectly from my Uniflow. I may try it with the 50gr V-Max too if it will match the velocity I'm currently getting with IMR-4198. Motor I like the 4198 myself and they work in my AR's, even in the rifle length gas now. And 4198 goes a long ways& the velocity is not to bad for such alight charge. I like it esp. in my short barreled AR's, cuts down the concussion shooting at critters in my side by side. 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 2:30:53 PM EDT
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I have loaded a lot of these, but can't tell you what the loads were without the info in front of me. I can tell you that they can be extremely accurate bullets out to 200-300 yards. I think the 53 has the best BC out of all of the .224 Vmax options. Excellent bullets.
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Posted: 1/13/2019 12:45:37 PM EDT
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I use 26.5 gr. of XBR with the 53 vmax in lapua cases. This gets me sub MOA groups out of my 16” LW barreled AR. Velocity is 3150 fps.... it’s a hot, compressed load, so work up.
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Posted: 1/13/2019 3:38:38 PM EDT
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I'm also going to try AeroE's pet load using RL-15. It's not specifically for the V-Max but is for the same weight range bullet. My Uniflow will dispense RL-15 pretty well but I'm sure not as accurately as ball powder.
I have seen groups in the .600" range using RL-15 the Uniflow and Sierra 65gr BTSP. Motor |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 11:25:11 PM EDT
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I have excellent results with 50 grain VMax and Benchmark. As mentioned, .5 grain either side of 25 should be good. With the 50s, 25.2 grains of Benchmark works well in everything I shoot it through.
VMax have thinner jackets than ZMax. They aren't exactly the same. Regardless, I've never seen a performance difference. |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 11:58:12 PM EDT
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I'm also going to try AeroE's pet load using RL-15. It's not specifically for the V-Max but is for the same weight range bullet. My Uniflow will dispense RL-15 pretty well but I'm sure not as accurately as ball powder. I have seen groups in the .600" range using RL-15 the Uniflow and Sierra 65gr BTSP. Motor With a drop tube and tapping it will be half way up the neck. When I load this "load" on a 550, I use 26.5 grs and the Dillon PM works well. Good luck |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 6:09:47 PM EDT
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If you use a PM, you will also need a drop tube to get 27.0 grs Re 15 into the case. With a drop tube and tapping it will be half way up the neck. When I load this "load" on a 550, I use 26.5 grs and the Dillon PM works well. Good luck I'll do a few test drops and probably try both 26.5 and 27.0 loads. If the 26.5 is easier to work with and is accurate that's what I'll probably end up using. Motor |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 6:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dryflash3, Thanks. I actually have the 4" drop tube and the adapter to use it on my Uniflow. I'll do a few test drops and probably try both 26.5 and 27.0 loads. If the 26.5 is easier to work with and is accurate that's what I'll probably end up using. Motor |
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