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Posted: 5/6/2018 11:04:59 PM EDT
So they made a rather sparse comment on their Instagram page about the NRAAM and that if you were there to stop by and ask about their new L85 project.

Well... What's the word? I was stuck in ATL and couldn't make it out to Dallas this year. Is it going to be an a1? A2? Are they getting kits in or is this a from scratch project?

I know the L85 is is complete rubbish, even the HK fixes have some bugs, but I still want one for the same reason I have a FAL and Lee Enfield rifles. It's a heritage thing.
Link Posted: 5/6/2018 11:15:25 PM EDT
The HMG-44 has been teased vaporwear for years, with still no signs of shipment. Yet they’re already touting this project. I badly want both. I doubt I see either, certainly any time soon.
Link Posted: 5/6/2018 11:39:44 PM EDT
They pulled off the Cetme L thing pretty quick and painlessly. I think that was because they had parts kits to work off of. If the L85 has parts kits as well I think we have hope. It's it's a ground up build like the stg44 then who knows.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 12:26:32 AM EDT
I would rather seem them do a FAMAS F1 with the G2 magwell to use STANAG mags.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 12:41:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kfeltenberger:
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+1 if love a stanag Famas. I wouldn’t pay for a L85.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 12:45:54 AM EDT
It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 1:07:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xM16a1x:

It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's.
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Dam, I would have been interested in that. Always room for one more unique gun in the safe
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 2:00:41 AM EDT
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+1 if love a stanag Famas. I wouldn’t pay for a L85.
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I would totally pay for an L85. And a FAMAS.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 7:28:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kfeltenberger:
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Link Posted: 5/7/2018 7:52:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xM16a1x:

It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's.
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So they’re not even actually looking at making them?
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 12:33:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:
So they’re not even actually looking at making them?
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:
Originally Posted By xM16a1x:

It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's.
So they’re not even actually looking at making them?
Aww... don't tell me that.
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:32:58 PM EDT
I wouldn't hold your breath the HMG STG 44 still hasn't shipped a single gun !

Their original shipping date issued was Fall 2015 followed by April 2016 !

So their we are still perfecting stories are bullshit , can we all say ponzi !?
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:36:19 PM EDT
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I don't think you know what a ponzi scheme is.

If you're suggesting that it's vaporware and that they're failing to deliver the product you paid for, then that's one thing.

But since none of the customers are getting any returns from anything they may have paid, it's not a ponzi scheme.

They do keep displaying them and going to shows so I'm guessing they're just delayed like any overly optimistic small business is prone to.
Link Posted: Today 5:01:14 AM EDT
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Indeed.
Link Posted: Today 6:12:34 AM EDT
I remember when Prexis (is that even a thing still) was working on the recievers calling it the PL-85

.....And that was 10 years ago.
Link Posted: Today 6:49:38 AM EDT
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We need the FAMAS, MP40, and SVD.

I’d own an L85, but not for what they would probably sell for.
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I don't think you know what a ponzi scheme is.

If you're suggesting that it's vaporware and that they're failing to deliver the product you paid for, then that's one thing.

But since none of the customers are getting any returns from anything they may have paid, it's not a ponzi scheme.

They do keep displaying them and going to shows so I'm guessing they're just delayed like any overly optimistic small business is prone to.
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You are correct I am mistaken .

However HMG has been creative with the truth over the intervening years and have flat out lied n other occasions.

One of the latest delays was magazine manufacturer delays , but they are on video form several years ago stating "We make them in house".

The statements of will be ready to ship fall 2015 was clearly a lie as the gun was no where ready technically.

The same old guns are seen in pictures yet never more than a handful at a time.

How close are they to release!? Well there have been multiple release dates since 2015 it's 2018 now and there is still not a single review of a pre production firing let alone finished gun.

If you are feeling generous you can say but it's a difficult project reengineering a 70 year old design. HMG made multiple false claims as to the progress of their project leaving customers waiting with no end in sight.
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