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Posted: 10/11/2020 7:55:25 PM EDT
[#1]
These are GTG right? I know KOTA is good.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are GTG right? I know KOTA is good. NIJ certified and a little lighter than RMA 1155. Everything I've read says these are good to go. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:22:55 PM EDT
[#3]
7.6 pounds? Both or each?
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:23:31 PM EDT
[#4]
What the hell, grabbed a set.
Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:24:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.6 pounds? Both or each? Each |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:27:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Can’t beat that price...got a set on the way to replace the wife’s steel plates
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:29:06 PM EDT
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This thread is always full of people asking question for 2 pages, and then complaining that they missed out on the next 8 pages.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Each Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 7.6 pounds? Both or each? Each Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:35:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. Kind of on the heavy side but the lighter/thinner/more curves it gets, the more $$$ |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:40:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. Well, just depends on how much you want to pay. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:47:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. It's lighter than some for the price/performance of an NIJ certified US made plate. RMA 1155 LV IV is 8.3lbs a plate 135.00 each RMA 1189 LV IV is 6.9lbs a plate and 299 each RMA 1199 i:V IV is 4.7lbs a plate and 999 each You see how it escalates :D I was also looking at another vendor that has 4s17m multi-curve level iV in stock but they are 7.2lbs and 215 each. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 8:52:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the hell, grabbed a set. Thanks! Yeah I was getting a little down that it seems my RMA 1092 order is going to take a few months to complete so I needed something to fill in until they arrive. I was considering the Chnia plates but I figure I'll throw these HESCOs into my PC and they will sit unused for 3 months and can probably turn around and sell them with minimal loss. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of on the heavy side but the lighter/thinner/more curves it gets, the more $$$ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. Kind of on the heavy side but the lighter/thinner/more curves it gets, the more $$$ Since you are in the biz, do you have a recommendation for a carrier system that works well with single curve plates? I have a Slickster with multi and another with singles and it fits funny with the single (full disclosure might need to be adjusted more). Having said that, is there a carrier that works better with single curve plates? |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. Yes, that's a bit heavy. But to get lighter weight for the same Level 4 protection rating, you'll be making tradeoffs in price and location of manufacture (China). Considering that the overwhelming majority of people buying plates want them for, shall we say, static positions, they're a great value. By being willing to trade off more weight and going single curve instead of multicurve, you in exchange get something made in America with an actual official NIJ certification. Part of having an NIJ certification means the NIJ is entitled to show up to Hesco's factory unannounced at any time they want, inspect the assembly line, and randomly select finished plates to re-test and verify their performance. If they find something wrong with the assembly process, cert revoked. Randomly selected plate fails? Cert revoked. Hesco refuses to let them into the building to do their inspection? Cert revoked. As opposed to the Level 4 plate from Botach which is lighter and multicurved at the same price and threat rating. But the Botach plates are made in China with no official verification process to ensure consistent performance and quality control. There are YouTubers who have shot the Botach plates in their backyard and found them to stand up to the relevant threats, but that's not the same as having an independent government agency performing routine tests and inspections at the factory to verify that the same can be said for every plate that goes out the door. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's lighter than some for the price/performance of an NIJ certified US made plate. RMA 1155 LV IV is 8.3lbs a plate 135.00 each RMA 1189 LV IV is 6.9lbs a plate and 299 each RMA 1199 i:V IV is 4.7lbs a plate and 999 each You see how it escalates :D I was also looking at another vendor that has 4s17m multi-curve level iV in stock but they are 7.2lbs and 215 each. I was very close to buying RMA 1155's but, they have a pretty good backorder delay so, I waffled and didn't purchase. Then I hit the email lottery with these Hesco's being available and at a good price too!  I debated the L210's but, being in a rural area figured I better have something with better rifle protection if I was going to get plates. Out here in East Texas, most people have a rifle close by so, any violence is apt to be rifle related. Unfortunately, I have a neighbor about a 1/2 mile away from my mailbox that apparently runs a B&B for homeless drifters from church so, there is a bit of recurrent trouble there along with the general Meth and Marijuana users that seem to think this is a great area to do drugs while stealing mail from mailboxes so, I also want something that isn't super high profile, at least from a distance (my house is ~1200 feet from the public road and my mailbox). What plate carrier for HESCO 4401's? |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was very close to buying RMA 1155's but, they have a pretty good backorder delay so, I waffled and didn't purchase. Then I hit the email lottery with these Hesco's being available and at a good price too! I debated the L210's but, being in a rural area figured I better have something with better rifle protection if I was going to get plates. Out here in East Texas, most people have a rifle close by so, any violence is apt to be rifle related. Unfortunately, I have a neighbor about a 1/2 mile away from my mailbox that apparently runs a B&B for homeless drifters from church so, there is a bit of recurrent trouble there along with the general Meth and Marijuana users that seem to think this is a great area to do drugs while stealing mail from mailboxes so, I also want something that isn't super high profile, at least from a distance (my house is ~1200 feet from the public road and my mailbox). What plate carrier for HESCO 4401's? Just about every house in Idaho has a hunting rifle which is why I stayed away from the special threats as well And they're sold out now |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of on the heavy side but the lighter/thinner/more curves it gets, the more $$$ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wanting plates but that's kinda heavy isn't it? See expensive plates in the 3.5# range. Kind of on the heavy side but the lighter/thinner/more curves it gets, the more $$$ The 3810's are in the sweet spot, IMO. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 12:56:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @patriot_man Since you are in the biz, do you have a recommendation for a carrier system that works well with single curve plates? I have a Slickster with multi and another with singles and it fits funny with the single (full disclosure might need to be adjusted more). Having said that, is there a carrier that works better with single curve plates? Hmm, to be honest I think most people design their carriers with multi-curve in mind due to the fact that most of the money is in MIL/LE and they will almost certainly always have multi-curve plates. It probably just sits funny due to the see-saw effect that comes from single curve plates. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 11:04:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm, to be honest I think most people design their carriers with multi-curve in mind due to the fact that most of the money is in MIL/LE and they will almost certainly always have multi-curve plates. It probably just sits funny due to the see-saw effect that comes from single curve plates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @patriot_man Since you are in the biz, do you have a recommendation for a carrier system that works well with single curve plates? I have a Slickster with multi and another with singles and it fits funny with the single (full disclosure might need to be adjusted more). Having said that, is there a carrier that works better with single curve plates? Hmm, to be honest I think most people design their carriers with multi-curve in mind due to the fact that most of the money is in MIL/LE and they will almost certainly always have multi-curve plates. It probably just sits funny due to the see-saw effect that comes from single curve plates. Thank you. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 11:08:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 3810's are in the sweet spot, IMO. 3810s spec out nice but for the price I went with RMA 1092. Yeah they are a little thicker and .4lbs heavier but they are half the cost. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 12:07:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So that seesaw effect is normal for single curves? Thank you. Depending on your body type, yes. Most people I've seen have a see-saw effect unless they're very flat |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 2:50:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Depending on your body type, yes. Most people I've seen have a see-saw effect unless they're very flat Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So that seesaw effect is normal for single curves? Thank you. Depending on your body type, yes. Most people I've seen have a see-saw effect unless they're very flat  A buddy got a set of these so he's going to be dealing with the same thing. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 3:19:34 PM EDT
[#23]
I ordered some. Finally caught them in stock. I hope they work for me. I'm pretty flat but also small, 5'5". 10x12 is about my entire torso size. Now to find a small PC.
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Posted: 10/12/2020 8:21:10 PM EDT
[#24]
I was going to order some as backup had I not just ordered the Lapolicegear IVs the day before. It was tough to not pull the trigger wish I had waited one more day.
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Posted: 10/12/2020 10:40:42 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just about every house in Idaho has a hunting rifle which is why I stayed away from the special threats as well And they're sold out now Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was very close to buying RMA 1155's but, they have a pretty good backorder delay so, I waffled and didn't purchase. Then I hit the email lottery with these Hesco's being available and at a good price too! I debated the L210's but, being in a rural area figured I better have something with better rifle protection if I was going to get plates. Out here in East Texas, most people have a rifle close by so, any violence is apt to be rifle related. Unfortunately, I have a neighbor about a 1/2 mile away from my mailbox that apparently runs a B&B for homeless drifters from church so, there is a bit of recurrent trouble there along with the general Meth and Marijuana users that seem to think this is a great area to do drugs while stealing mail from mailboxes so, I also want something that isn't super high profile, at least from a distance (my house is ~1200 feet from the public road and my mailbox). What plate carrier for HESCO 4401's? Just about every house in Idaho has a hunting rifle which is why I stayed away from the special threats as well And they're sold out now I was out using taking my hunting rifle for a walk and missed them being in stock. And I am still waiting on L210’s from June. 2020 is an odd year. |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 2:03:38 AM EDT
[#26]
Yes, COVID, BLM and related protests and riots, and an Election year have made things a bit crazy. With the Biden/Harris/Beto trifecta, gun sales are at record levels too. Crazy times to be in the market for sure! At least plate carriers aren't part of the ban talk.
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Posted: 10/13/2020 2:05:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Mine shipped today. I also ordered a Crye JPC, medium.
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Posted: 10/13/2020 2:24:13 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine shipped today. I also ordered a Crye JPC, medium. Mine as well |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 4:00:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Where are you finding the JPC's in stock? I assume we need the swimmer cut version, correct me if I'm wrong, please!
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Posted: 10/13/2020 6:11:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are you finding the JPC's in stock? I assume we need the swimmer cut version, correct me if I'm wrong, please! I ordered from uspatriottactical.com. I'm a newb to this stuff. |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 6:54:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Anyone have pics of a 4401 shooters cut compared to other plates?
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Posted: 10/13/2020 8:37:29 PM EDT
[#32]
OBE
My account doesn't show any order or order status. The confirmation email I got has the following information: Got through to them and apparently, they had an accounting or computer glitch of some sort. They have my order so, everything is fine! |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 9:17:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Stripe is their payment processor but none of my correspondence from them looks like that. |
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Posted: 10/14/2020 5:34:54 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ordered from uspatriottactical.com. I'm a newb to this stuff. You might want to do some research on US Patriot. |
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Posted: 10/14/2020 6:08:18 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You might want to do some research on US Patriot. Have there been some mixed or negative reviews? The feel of the website left me with some mixed general feelings. Public reviews are mixed to bad but, you never know the real store without a lot of reviews. I know I've dealt with some truly unreasonable customers personally. |
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Posted: 10/14/2020 10:37:17 AM EDT
[#36]
Well crap, hope I don't get screwed. I had the money and just jumped in where stuff said in stock.
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Posted: 10/14/2020 11:51:06 AM EDT
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Is the PIG Brigandine Plate Carrier, SKD 10x12 Plate, the correct plate bag for these plates? At ~1/2 the cost of a JPC 2.0, and available, it may be a viable alternative.
https://www.skdtac.com/PIG-Brig-Plate-Carrier-All-Molle-Rear-SYSTEMA-p/pig.401.htm |
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Posted: 10/14/2020 5:55:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have there been some mixed or negative reviews? The feel of the website left me with some mixed general feelings. Public reviews are mixed to bad but, you never know the real store without a lot of reviews. I know I've dealt with some truly unreasonable customers personally. Well just look up their online reviews, then do I search here. I have never dealt with them, but I doubt they have any JPCs in stock. |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 3:09:37 PM EDT
[#39]
Got my plates! Guess I'll use duct tape until I get a carrier.
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Posted: 10/16/2020 6:37:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my plates! Guess I'll use duct tape until I get a carrier. Yup mine came in today as well. I picked up the box and thought "Holy crap what did I get myself into" but they aren't bad in the carrier. Looking forward to my RMA 1092s thou. Gonna be almost half the weight. |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 6:52:48 PM EDT
[#41]
I placed my order five days ago and still hasn't shipped
 Whenever they arrive I'll take comparison pics with 1092 and Botach lvl4 multicurve |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 7:06:32 PM EDT
[#42]
Mine hasn't shipped yet either
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Posted: 10/16/2020 7:51:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup mine came in today as well. I picked up the box and thought "Holy crap what did I get myself into" but they aren't bad in the carrier. Looking forward to my RMA 1092s thou. Gonna be almost half the weight. I did the same thing, reached down to pick up the box, oh shit! I think they will fit me well. I'm short but 40" chest. |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 7:56:13 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine hasn't shipped yet either Same |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 8:09:03 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did the same thing, reached down to pick up the box, oh shit! I think they will fit me well. I'm short but 40" chest. I guess I've got a weird body. I'm 6ft with a 43in chest but the medium plates almost touch my belly button when I'm sitting down. |
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Posted: 10/17/2020 3:06:23 PM EDT
[#46]
My impression based on one phone call was that they are a small operation. With that in mind, it will take a while to package and ship a pallet of plates and, that likely isn't the only thing they sell.
Gun stores, surplus stores, and others are seeing HUGE DEMAND right now so, unless they have really good friends or family to help, there is a limit to how much product they can package and ship in a given day or week. On a related note for those that missed out on this shipment, she did say they are scheduled to get another load this month so, the plates should come back in stock in a week or two! |
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Posted: 10/17/2020 9:14:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did the same thing, reached down to pick up the box, oh shit! I think they will fit me well. I'm short but 40" chest. They’re heavy but they are level 4 after all. |
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Posted: 10/19/2020 11:31:20 AM EDT
[#48]
I received a fraud alert and my card used to order these plates was comprised. Not knocking the retailer, shit happens. New card is on the way and my plates shipped but yall might wanna keep an eye on your accounts.
Xsolla usa was to whom the fraud charge popped up on my radar. |
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Posted: 10/19/2020 4:53:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I received a fraud alert and my card used to order these plates was comprised. Not knocking the retailer, shit happens. New card is on the way and my plates shipped but yall might wanna keep an eye on your accounts. Xsolla usa was to whom the fraud charge popped up on my radar. |
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Posted: 10/21/2020 7:56:43 PM EDT
[#50]
I've got the Propper set with 4400s if anyone wants them. PM me.
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