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Posted: 5/8/2022 6:04:21 PM EDT
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I remember when the cartridge just came out and I bought a Savage bolt in that caliber. I was super surprised at the dime size groups I was getting off the bench at 100 yards. I killed a lot of prairie dogs with it. Compared to .22 mag which my son was shooting, I would kill some pretty big p dogs and some times I couldn't find an entry wound or exit would. The bullet blew up inside. Long story short don't rule out Savage unless you got a bigger budget to spend.
Happy shooting with what ever you end up with. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 6:19:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Savage 93
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:03:11 PM EDT
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I recently picked up a like new CZ 455 that had both the .17 and .22 barrels. I only have a couple dozen rounds through it but am extremely impressed with the rifle. I believe it successor is the 457 Varmint.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-varmint/ |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:10:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Savage bolt action with accutrigger.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:43:11 PM EDT
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I have the ruger American it will shoot squirrels head all day long.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 8:18:31 PM EDT
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I have two Thompson Center Contender frames, so I picked up a 20” bull barrel and put an old Weaver 4 power I had on it.
On sand bags at 100 yds it is amazing!! I’ve only had it to the range once, I’ve yet to hunt with it, but a friend swears by it for ‘yotes. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 9:45:39 PM EDT
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Thanks for the suggestions. I was just checking out the savage 93’s. They come in a couple different barrel options, 21” and 16.25”. Will the extra length be more accurate?
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Posted: 5/9/2022 3:06:33 PM EDT
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Any Savage model with heavy barrel and NOT the F stock (ie, no FV)
Local pawn had a nice BV a few weeks ago that was very tempting to me, but I held off and looked up current cost of ammo. $23/box for non-reloadable ain't happenin for me... |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 5:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Savage model with heavy barrel and NOT the F stock (ie, no FV) Local pawn had a nice BV a few weeks ago that was very tempting to me, but I held off and looked up current cost of ammo. $23/box for non-reloadable ain't happenin for me... What’s going on with the FV stocks? On grabagun the wood stocks aren’t much more than the synthetic stocks and they look better. It doesn’t say what kind of wood it is though, it just says “Monte Carlo hardwood stock” |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 9:48:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Savage 93 I'm left handed, so my two .17HMR rifles are a Savage 93R GVL and a CZ 452 American. Both are scoped with 4-14 X 44 variable rimfire scopes. Gary |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:34:55 AM EDT
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I picked up a CZ 453 American in 17 HMR. The fluted barrel, single-set trigger, nice wood stock. Shoots like a dream and is a favorite gun of mine.
I spent a fair amount on the optics. In fact get the best you can afford is my recommendation. Good luck finding one. Just here to brag actually. :-)  |
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Posted: 5/18/2022 12:02:55 PM EDT
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Tikka T1X or Cz.
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Posted: 5/18/2022 1:11:15 PM EDT
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Savage 93R17 HBAR with the wood stock. The plastic stock is flimsy.
The wood stock gives the rifle some heft and more rigidity. Feels more like a "real" rifle with the wood stock. Savage 93R17 GV |
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Posted: 5/18/2022 4:55:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s going on with the FV stocks? On grabagun the wood stocks aren’t much more than the synthetic stocks and they look better. It doesn’t say what kind of wood it is though, it just says “Monte Carlo hardwood stock” The fore end is very flexy, so shooting from a front rest or bipod causes issues. Lots of folks have tried various things to stiffen them up - I say just don't bother and go with one of the laminate or wood offerings. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 1:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLocal pawn had a nice BV a few weeks ago that was very tempting to me, but I held off and looked up current cost of ammo. $23/box for non-reloadable ain't happenin for me... Local ammo price around here is $17ish a box of 50. I can live with that. Plus mine is a single shot. You know how long it takes to blast through 50 rounds in a single shot? |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fore end is very flexy, so shooting from a front rest or bipod causes issues. Lots of folks have tried various things to stiffen them up - I say just don't bother and go with one of the laminate or wood offerings. I went with the wood stock and picked it up yesterday. The stock looks good and the trigger is real nice. I don’t know how many pounds it is but it’s already set pretty light. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:59:43 PM EDT
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I have the savage 93 as well with a Vortex scope. Excellent critter gitter.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 9:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went with the wood stock and picked it up yesterday. The stock looks good and the trigger is real nice. I don’t know how many pounds it is but it’s already set pretty light. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fore end is very flexy, so shooting from a front rest or bipod causes issues. Lots of folks have tried various things to stiffen them up - I say just don't bother and go with one of the laminate or wood offerings. I went with the wood stock and picked it up yesterday. The stock looks good and the trigger is real nice. I don’t know how many pounds it is but it’s already set pretty light. Congrats! The wood stock is the way to go. Night and day difference in the way the rifle feels between the flimsy synthetic stock and the wood. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 8:54:59 PM EDT
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My 93 is basically a single shot. None of the mags I have work worth a damn. Wouldn’t consider it a tack driver.
17HMR does an excellent job on groundhogs for me. My 93 likes the 17gr VMAX. Tried a bunch of other ammo and none grouped better than 1.5moa, many pushing 2moa. The worst offenders would be better suited to larger game like coyote, being JSP and FMJ. |
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Posted: 5/26/2022 8:22:05 PM EDT
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Whatever CZ floats your boat. My 455 Varmint with the single set trigger is awesome. I am so happy with it.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 9:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 93 is basically a single shot. None of the mags I have work worth a damn. Wouldn’t consider it a tack driver. 17HMR does an excellent job on groundhogs for me. My 93 likes the 17gr VMAX. Tried a bunch of other ammo and none grouped better than 1.5moa, many pushing 2moa. The worst offenders would be better suited to larger game like coyote, being JSP and FMJ. Something is amiss. I've owned four or five of the Savage 93's over the years and all of them were tack drivers. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 9:34:21 PM EDT
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Savage builds a very accurate rifle, but cuts corners on everything else. The stocks are usually terrible (laminate ones are OK) the magazines are shoddy at best, and the rest of the gun feels cheap in general. Nothing against them, but I'd rather spend a little more and get a CZ which is significantly nicer. This is coming from somebody who used to own a Savage .17HMR and sold it to get into a CZ because the Savage was so disappointing quality wise, no regrets.
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Posted: 5/28/2022 12:26:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Savage builds a very accurate rifle, but cuts corners on everything else. The stocks are usually terrible (laminate ones are OK) the magazines are shoddy at best, and the rest of the gun feels cheap in general. Nothing against them, but I'd rather spend a little more and get a CZ which is significantly nicer. This is coming from somebody who used to own a Savage .17HMR and sold it to get into a CZ because the Savage was so disappointing quality wise, no regrets. I haven’t shot it yet, but the cheap feel is my only complaints so far. The bolt and the safety feels cheap. It wasn’t very expensive so I wasn’t expecting top of the line quality. |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 11:42:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t shot it yet, but the cheap feel is my only complaints so far. The bolt and the safety feels cheap. It wasn’t very expensive so I wasn’t expecting top of the line quality. It's a compromise to get them to the price point they sell at. Make no mistake, they are just as accurate as something more expensive (like CZ) they just have to cheapen them somewhere. The magazine issues are what pushed me over the edge to get rid of mine. Hope yours treats you well! |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 5:57:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something is amiss. I've owned four or five of the Savage 93's over the years and all of them were tack drivers. It does roughly a minute with the commonly available and reasonably priced Hornady 17gr loads. I got a box of some other brand using the same bullet, but haven’t had time to test it yet. IIRC it’s CCI or Federal. Both of those brands were disappointing with their own branded bullets. I bought stock in the H loads, and shoot maybe a box/yr, so it’s no big deal for “now” to get a box whenever they show up in stores or if I can add them on to another order. Just annoying that nothing else really does well. I don’t think the rifle has a manufacturing defect. Crown looks good, chambers/fires/extracts fine. When I first bought it, I mounted up the scope and did an eyeball boresight. It was only about 8 clicks off when I went to live fire. So you could say that it “shoots straight” too. The magazine seems to sit too low so the bullet tips smash into the breech face. One might say the magazines don’t present the rounds very well either. Maybe the spring is too weak. They tend to nose dive while feeding, but seem to be angled well when fully seated in the mag. |
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