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Posted: 3/17/2018 10:56:15 AM EDT
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Used a boat load of LongShot but switched to cfe pistol due to availability and does just as good, think I'm around 5.5 grain
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:06:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Accurate #5 or unobtanium Winchester 231
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:13:01 AM EDT
[#3]
SR 4756 was discontinued.
Shame it was a good powder as long as you respected it and worked up. Could go from meh to hmm my brass just launched into orbit quickly. It was also the only powder that ever caused me to accidentally launch a 125gr 38spl supersonic. Knew I was close to that speed but the sonic crack was a surprise. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:13:56 AM EDT
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Accurate #5 or unobtanium Winchester 231 I love HP-38, so that is my recommendation... but I also use CFE Pistol, LongShot, TiteGroup |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:21:55 AM EDT
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I use HP-38. Works great in the variety of 9mms I load for
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:24:35 AM EDT
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Titegroup, is the best i have found.Clean, consistant, cheap, low charge weight, accurate.
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:58:37 AM EDT
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When the question is 9mm the answer is True Blue.
Stick with a ball powder for easy measuring like True Blue or CFE Pistol. Haven't used CFE Pistol enough to say it's one of my favorites or not. But you could do a lot worse. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 12:00:00 PM EDT
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for 9mm?
Power Pistol or CFE Pistol |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 12:13:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Win 231 always keep 8 lb on hand
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Posted: 3/17/2018 12:31:24 PM EDT
[#10]
Several good options. I use HP48 / W231 (they're the same powder) for 9mm. I load 124gr FMJ, and use a charge weight of 4.6gr.
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Posted: 3/17/2018 12:54:05 PM EDT
[#11]
win231/HP38
power pistol unique CFE-P titegroup all good choices tg is accurate & economical power pistol or unique will give high velocity |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 1:03:53 PM EDT
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I just started using BE86. It's a modernized power pistol. I like I a lot in 9mm
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Posted: 3/17/2018 1:36:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Unique is what I use for 9mm.
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Posted: 3/17/2018 1:47:27 PM EDT
[#14]
WSF is great for 9mm and others. Clean with a medium burn rate. Meters well too. I use it in all my handgun loads.
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Posted: 3/17/2018 2:05:37 PM EDT
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I have only ever used unique for 9MM. It works great, right now, I use 4.5gr under a 115g PCC bullet.
That being said, there are tons of options for 9MM. I know many love the ball powders, and some day, I wish to try them. But I am sitting on over 20lbs of unique and then I have quite a few pounds of bullseye after that (that I have yet to try), and about 7lbs of HP-38, it may be years before I run dry of pistol powders. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 2:09:03 PM EDT
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I like Unique powder in all my 9mm 124 grain loads. One thing I like is it more than half fills the case. Less chance of double charge. Gives good consistent velocity. My load with 124 gr Gold Dots is 5.4 grains of Unique, CCI 500 primers, in mostly Win brass. Overall length for 124 gr. Gold Dot factory is 1.120"-1.125". At 5.4 grains of Unique I get 1134-1138 FPS in a 4" barrel. Speers maximum data is hotter than I want to load.
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Posted: 3/17/2018 2:33:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Thanks for all the recommendations.
I ended buying a lb of CFE Pistol and a lb of Unique. Now the dies just need to get here. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 5:47:14 PM EDT
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I keep 2 different powders around. Winchester 231. Like one poster said it was impossible to find for a long time. Not anymore.
The other one l like is Autocomp. I have been shooting a lot of my own cast powder coated bullets and 231 has been giving me keyholing, Autocomp eliminated that. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 6:06:01 PM EDT
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I keep 2 different powders around. Winchester 231. Like one poster said it was impossible to find for a long time. Not anymore. The other one l like is Autocomp. I have been shooting a lot of my own cast powder coated bullets and 231 has been giving me keyholing, Autocomp eliminated that. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 8:05:21 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the recommendations. I ended buying a lb of CFE Pistol and a lb of Unique. Now the dies just need to get here. True Blue is my 2nd choice and works great with Hydrashoks After I found my node, My 9mm carbine shoots 1" 50yd groups with #5. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 8:22:50 PM EDT
[#21]
AA#5 and 124gr plated RN didnt work for me in a glock19.
Lots of unburned powder. Titegroup and Bullseye worked lots better for me. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 8:32:30 PM EDT
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Do yourself a favor and try Accurate #5 with those GDHPs. True Blue is my 2nd choice and works great with Hydrashoks After I found my node, My 9mm carbine shoots 1" 50yd groups with #5. These will be shot out of a G34. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 8:33:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm old school. I love Bullseye and Unique but so far have not found anything Unique does better in 9mm with 124 or 125s that Bullseye can do and you'll use about 1gr less Bullseye to do it. So in 9mm Bullseye is my choice.
I will some day take dryflash3's advice and try True Blue but for now it's Bullseye. Motor |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 9:18:20 PM EDT
[#24]
I've used Blue Dot, AA#5, Power Pistol, True Blue and Silhouette. Of those I like True Blue and Silhouette.
However last fall I started using Nobel Sport's Vectan Ba9. I love the stuff, it's currently my favorite. Case fill is good, not enough room for a double charge. Meters very well, looks like a very short cut stick powder. The kernels are hard and smooth. Doubt it meters quite as well as True Blue (that powder looks and acts like water,) but Ba9 is still one of the best metering powders I've used. It can usually be found for $18-$21 for a 1.1 pound bottle. Depends on the company and who's paying the hazmat on paper - obviously the customer is paying it one way or another. It's also very clean and soft shooting. I've not tried it with 147gr bullets, but it does very well with 115 and 124 grain. AA#7 is my go to powder for those. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:46:04 PM EDT
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I'm old school. I love Bullseye and Unique but so far have not found anything Unique does better in 9mm with 124 or 125s that Bullseye can do and you'll use about 1gr less Bullseye to do it. So in 9mm Bullseye is my choice. I will some day take dryflash3's advice and try True Blue but for now it's Bullseye. Motor All were very happy with it. Would love to add you to the list. 
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:17:21 AM EDT
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I use Power Pistol. 5.2gr under a 124gr plated RN with Federal Match primers makes minor power factor for me. 6.2gr gets me 1200+ fps. Also, a double charge will over flow the case.
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:22:23 AM EDT
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For max performance: power pistol
For plinking: 231 or tite group |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:39:52 AM EDT
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I have gotten several posters to try True Blue over the years. All were very happy with it. Would love to add you to the list. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm old school. I love Bullseye and Unique but so far have not found anything Unique does better in 9mm with 124 or 125s that Bullseye can do and you'll use about 1gr less Bullseye to do it. So in 9mm Bullseye is my choice. I will some day take dryflash3's advice and try True Blue but for now it's Bullseye. Motor All were very happy with it. Would love to add you to the list. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:38:23 AM EDT
[#29]
I use W231 for
38 Spl 357 Magnum 9 mm Luger 45 ACP It works really well in all those and many, many more. It burns cleanly, leaving your firearm clean. It does not produce a lot of smoke the way many others do. In 9 mm 45 ACP and 38 Spl, it produces minimal flash when shooting at night. 357 magnum in a revolver always has flash at night but W296 has much more. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:50:24 AM EDT
[#30]
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AA#5 and 124gr plated RN didnt work for me in a glock19. Lots of unburned powder. Titegroup and Bullseye worked lots better for me. Did the Titegroup and Bullseye solve that problem? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 6:29:11 PM EDT
[#31]
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For max performance: power pistol For plinking: 231 or tite group I’ve got plenty of Power Pistol and 231, but I plan on getting a couple pounds of True Blue next time I’m in Ohio. I’ve never seen Ramshot powder here in SWPA. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:04:50 PM EDT
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Were the bullets hollow in the back? I think people have had that issues with those in terms of unburned powder. Did the Titegroup and Bullseye solve that problem? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AA#5 and 124gr plated RN didnt work for me in a glock19. Lots of unburned powder. Titegroup and Bullseye worked lots better for me. Did the Titegroup and Bullseye solve that problem? Its more likely I was trying to achieve the middle-to-lower end of velocity to try not to push them too fast, and the AA#5 just doesn't like that. Titegroup and Bullseye burn completely, and work at the lower velocities, just for plinking, so I use that. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 9:43:32 PM EDT
[#33]
AA#7 or Power Pistol
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Posted: 3/18/2018 10:59:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here, but I've never used Titegroup. I've got plenty of Power Pistol and 231, but I plan on getting a couple pounds of True Blue next time I'm in Ohio. I've never seen Ramshot powder here in SWPA. Doesn't burn dirty like W-231. True Blue can be used with light cast bullet loads, mid range and full power loads, powder coated, plated or jacketed bullets, doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:07:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Another W-231 user here. I've found it works for all my pistol loads, so I keep it on hand.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 12:21:48 AM EDT
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WSF is great for 9mm and others. Clean with a medium burn rate. Meters well too. I use it in all my handgun loads. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 11:45:19 AM EDT
[#37]
Depends on if you're trying to make light loads, medium loads, or heavy loads.
If you're shooting Gold Dots, I assume you're trying to make or at least replicate duty rounds. Powder Pistol or WSF would work pretty good. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 12:06:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Lover of CFE here. Performs well and my barrel stays pretty clean.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 2:17:43 PM EDT
[#39]
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SR 4756 was discontinued. Shame it was a good powder as long as you respected it and worked up. Could go from meh to hmm my brass just launched into orbit quickly. It was also the only powder that ever caused me to accidentally launch a 125gr 38spl supersonic. Knew I was close to that speed but the sonic crack was a surprise. OP, there are so many suitable powders for 9mm it boggles the mind but anything mentioned so far on this thread is GTG. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 2:43:12 PM EDT
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For max performance: power pistol For plinking: HP38,231 or tite group Quote HistoryQuoted:
For max performance: power pistol For plinking: HP38,231 or tite group Several good options. I use HP48 / W231 (they're the same powder) for 9mm. I load 124gr FMJ, and use a charge weight of 4.6gr. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 3:05:58 PM EDT
[#41]
I like Power Pistol. Blue Dot has not been bad either. The thing with Blue Dot is though, it seemed to always produce a pretty good fireball from the muzzle. Data for either usually show some good velocities.
For pistols I tend to like, use and stick with offerings from Alliant. Rifles, I always seem to go to offerings from Hodgdon. Habits over the years I guess. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 4:50:36 PM EDT
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HP-38/Win 231 is a good choice.
Unique is also good. My particular favorite is Hi-Skor 800X. It doesn't meter well, so don't use it on a progressive press, but if you can be patient enough to throw charges light and trickle up to the desired weight, 800X has a versatility all its own. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 5:02:15 PM EDT
[#43]
I say 231/hp38 for general 9mm and .45 loads. H110 or 2400 for magnum loads. That will cover a whole host of calibers.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 9:13:29 PM EDT
[#44]
VV 3N37, Clean burning, low flash not temp.sensitive.
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Posted: 3/19/2018 10:18:21 PM EDT
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VV 3N37, Clean burning, low flash not temp.sensitive. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:27:52 PM EDT
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That’s Easy, BULLSEYE! It goes a LONG way! On the lower end/lighter loads, it’s super accurate! I’m putting 3.5grs under 115/124gr bullets. Empties are at my feet, groups are super tight.
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:39:21 PM EDT
[#47]
non-magnum WST & 231
magnum H110/WW296 |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 8:39:31 AM EDT
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Depends on if you're trying to make light loads, medium loads, or heavy loads. If you're shooting Gold Dots, I assume you're trying to make or at least replicate duty rounds. Powder Pistol or WSF would work pretty good. |
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Posted: 3/24/2018 10:00:47 PM EDT
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I have gotten several posters to try True Blue over the years. All were very happy with it. Would love to add you to the list. (Now if I could just get you to try H322 for your 223, so I could return the favor lol) |
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Posted: 3/25/2018 12:39:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they are Berrys 124grHP, they have a flat base. Its more likely I was trying to achieve the middle-to-lower end of velocity to try not to push them too fast, and the AA#5 just doesn't like that. Titegroup and Bullseye burn completely, and work at the lower velocities, just for plinking, so I use that. Berrys site states that you can use the data from their hollow base 124 plated bullets but, If I'm not mistaken the hollow base bullets are longer than the TMJ bullets. They state the COL is 1.150. Info for 124FMJ states COL to be 1.169. Are they accounting for the hollow base by seating them deeper than the flat base? |
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