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Posted: 11/10/2020 7:46:00 PM EDT
So very new to the bayonet scene, but I was at an antiques market that had a K98 bayonet and frog. The frog was canvas which I thought was odd as all I've seen is leather. Figured I'd grab it as price was under 50, even though I think someone may have tried to clean it at some point. Looking to see if you guys know anything about it or a value as I'm not very knowledgeable on these and can't find many examples. I downloaded imgur in hopes these pictures I took work...

https://i.imgur.com/tyY5coT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nGmojy9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BtvLsyU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/P77SWei.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VicAgPm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2qjPIm1.jpg
Link Posted: 11/10/2020 11:36:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/10/2020 11:41:54 PM EDT
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The blade has been cut down. It's supposed to look like this...

Link Posted: 11/11/2020 12:30:34 AM EDT
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The blade has been cut down. It's supposed to look like this...

https://www.varusteleka.com/pictures/31978.jpg
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That's disappointing to hear... and a shame.
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 12:47:09 AM EDT
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That's disappointing to hear... and a shame.
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I wouldn't be too broken up, if that turns out to be a real afrika korp frog that's worth more than the bayonet anyway. For $50.00 that would be a major score.
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 1:06:09 AM EDT
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The bayo itself is worthless, except for parts, the grips, grip screws and escutcheons, and the flash guard are worth some money as parts...you can chuck the blade.

Scabbard has some value as a part...

The frog looks correct, although I am not sure about that stud on the strap, it should be centered, not offset, but it could just be the photo.

If the frog is good, it is worth $100-$150 at least...

The parts, $75....

So all in all a good score regardless...I would have bought it for that for sure!
Link Posted: 11/11/2020 8:06:26 PM EDT
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The bayo itself is worthless, except for parts, the grips, grip screws and escutcheons, and the flash guard are worth some money as parts...you can chuck the blade.

Scabbard has some value as a part...

The frog looks correct, although I am not sure about that stud on the strap, it should be centered, not offset, but it could just be the photo.

If the frog is good, it is worth $100-$150 at least...

The parts, $75....

So all in all a good score regardless...I would have bought it for that for sure!
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Well thats good news I suppose. I guess I'll sell all the parts separately from the frog... little extra Christmas money.
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 2:03:45 PM EDT
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Its not really an "Afrika" frog either. Germans used quite a bi of web gear outside of Afrika but that term has stuck around for a looonnnggg time when referencing anything not leather!

The webbing on the frog looks off to me, like it might be post war Czech.. I have two originals at the house but they are all packed up ATM.


Granted Im on my phone so its hard to see
Link Posted: 11/12/2020 5:20:29 PM EDT
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I would leave as is.  Was probably turned into a fighting knife which was quite common in WWII.
Link Posted: 11/16/2020 3:44:17 PM EDT
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I would leave as is.  Was probably turned into a fighting knife which was quite common in WWII.
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I agree. I think it's very neat and someone would pay what you ask for a field expedient set like that from a historical perspective.
Link Posted: 11/18/2020 3:52:34 PM EDT
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Its not really an "Afrika" frog either. Germans used quite a bi of web gear outside of Afrika but that term has stuck around for a looonnnggg time when referencing anything not leather!
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Exactly.  The Germans made increasing use of canvas field gear as the war dragged on, in order to save on leather.  (Same reason why the pre/early war tall jackboots were replaced with lower boots with gaiters.)  Canvas gear was initially used primarily in warmer climates, but even that wasn't limited to just Africa, since various types of "hot weather" gear was also issued for use in Southern Russia/Ukraine, the Balkans, Greece, and Italy too.  And as the war progressed this use wasn't limited to only warmer areas either.
Link Posted: 11/18/2020 7:26:30 PM EDT
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It is also missing the lock mechanism that allows it to clip onto the rifle.  Won't function as a bayonet without it.
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