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Posted: 5/1/2022 1:41:10 AM EDT
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What magazines and what loads? These barrels are old school and not like the current ones. Colt has changed the barrel throat design twice since then.
Is it random, or last round? If the recoil spring is really bad, that can be it but usually it's other things. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 6:55:37 AM EDT
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What finish did you get? Cerakote or similar can be thick enough to change tolerances/clearances of mating surfaces like slide and frame rails.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:25:48 AM EDT
[#3]
I would start with a new recoil spring
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:29:45 AM EDT
[#4]
Get quality magazines (Wilson Combat), this will eliminate 99% of any stove piping.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:30:54 AM EDT
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I’d send it to a professional....
Nighthawk Custom does excellent work at reasonable prices. If you care about the gun and need it to be flawless in form and function spend a little extra time/money |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:34:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Original Colt mags. Federal fmj.
Reblued. She's pretty she just stove pipes alot  Attached FileEta. I lied. 230 grain wwb |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:37:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Try a new Wilson magazine.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:51:39 AM EDT
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Easiest thing to do would be to replace the recoil spring and all the mag springs. Or, like others have suggested, get new, quality mags plus replace the recoil spring.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 9:20:39 AM EDT
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Replaced recoil spring and zero issues.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 12:21:55 PM EDT
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As others have posted with any 1911 trouble:
#1: replace the magazine with a new Wilson. #2: replace all the springs with a Wolff refresh kit. Only after doing these two, and not fixing the problem, do you start to look at the throat, link alignment (unlocking), slide speed changes via the angle of firing pin stop,...etc. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 12:23:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Id recommend a Beretta 92X.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 12:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Original Colt mags. Federal fmj. Reblued. She's pretty she just stove pipes alot https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127073/PXL_20220315_013309323_jpg-2368170.JPG Eta. I lied. 230 grain wwb |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 12:58:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Does it still have the original collett barrel bushing?
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Posted: 5/1/2022 1:56:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait. Stove piping empties or one of the last live rounds in the mag? Both happen |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 6:16:41 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Try a new Wilson magazine. Ordered new Wilson mags and a Wilson spring kit. Will report back. Thx |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:55:32 PM EDT
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Check extractor for sufficient tension.
Plenty of videos out there.  Wilson Combat - Checking the Extractor Tension in your 1911 |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:11:42 PM EDT
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Always do the easy stuff first.
1)I have had mixed results with WWB , try some other ball ammo. 2)clean and lube heavy 3) With any semiauto try different mags. 4) new main spring Possibly the new finish has made some spot in the gun a bit tight , if you can get it shooting better with any the above suggestions 2 or 3 boxes of ammo will possibly break the new tight gun in (again) |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 10:05:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does it still have the original collett barrel bushing? Yes |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 7:37:21 AM EDT
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The live rounds popping out are inertial feed. As the gang has said, get a new recoil spring.
The empty cases could be too much OR too little extractor tension. There are several tutorials on how to address that issue. Since the gun was refinished, if you didn't tweak the extractor after finishing, I would bet it's too little tension. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 7:46:01 AM EDT
[#20]
I would do the extractor test. Adjust and bent the extractor. If the recoil spring is weak that can throw the whole ejection process out of sink too. If you put a new recoil spring mind as well put a new mainspring. If they are original to the gun I would definitely replace.
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Posted: 5/6/2022 4:24:22 PM EDT
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If the old spring is 2 coils or more shorter than a new 16lb spring replace.
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Posted: 5/6/2022 4:45:08 PM EDT
[#22]
I got new mags and new spring kit in.
I put in the 18.5. However this is a pic of the original and a 10 pound spring. 10 pound on the left. Original on the right. I already put in the 18.5 and don't feel like pulling it back apart.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 4:46:50 PM EDT
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Ill take it out next weekend to test out the new 18.5 spring and new wilson mags.
And honestly it makes me sad to not use the colt mags but id rather have a usable gun |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:01:38 PM EDT
[#24]
The Colt mags would probably be OK with new springs installed. If they are original to the gun they are probably worn slap out.
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:04:31 PM EDT
[#25]
That’s two coils so yeah I would replace. I’ve never used a 10lb or 18.5 in a 1911, only 16.
You can order replacement springs for the colt mags and try them. But I would use a new Wilson or chip McCormick mag first to eliminate problems |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:06:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s two coils so yeah I would replace. I’ve never used a 10lb or 18.5 in a 1911, only 16. You can order replacement springs for the colt mags and try them. But I would use a new Wilson or chip McCormick mag first to eliminate problems  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:07:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:10:22 PM EDT
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Cause im a retard. Im used to glock and other mags. which feel normal to pull the baseplate to remove the spring.
These Colt mags dont seem to have a removable base plate. Am i missing something? How do I remove this? Am I just a bitch?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:29:02 PM EDT
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Push the followers halfway down the mag, insert nail or pice of coat hanger through witness hole. Release pressure and shake out follower . Slowly relax spring
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:31:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Push the followers halfway down the mag, insert nail or pice of coat hanger through witness hole. Release pressure and shake out follower . Slowly relax spring mah man |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:40:10 PM EDT
[#31]
I think your re-finish is very nice!
I would have started with checking the extractor first. The Colt or GI recoil spring would have been a 16 to 16.5-pounder. 18.5 is a little heavy, but probably OK. The new Wilson magazine won't hurt a thing. |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:53:52 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt the original Colt mags are "bad" but at most may need new springs, Wolff Springs has any spring you could want.
BTW, beautiful 1911. Also I've owned quite a few Series 70 Colts and the collet bushing was never an issue. |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 6:09:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I seriously doubt the original Colt mags are "bad" but at most may need new springs, Wolff Springs has any spring you could want. BTW, beautiful 1911. Also I've owned quite a few Series 70 Colts and the collet bushing was never an issue. Thx. Dad had abused it. I'm very happy with it |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 12:50:06 PM EDT
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In the early 90s, I bought a beautiful Colt Officer’s in mirrored bright chrome and the guy gave it to me for a few days to try it out.
After the first few shots, the front site flew off and into the canal I was shooting on and I never did find it. I ended up buying it out of guilt and had the site replaced. It was a stove-piping jam-o-matic, even after a $300 trip to the ‘GunDoc’ here in Miami. After that waste of cash, it still stove-piped and never ran right, so I took it down to the gun show, handed it and the silver laser module, along with $200 cash and got a NIB Sig 220 and was as happy as a clam walking out of there. Had I known about ‘spring kits,’ I would have gone that route for $20. Chris |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 8:15:22 PM EDT
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Extractor is where you should have checked first. Brownells sells a nice cheap guage plate for use with a trigger pull weight. But you can fake it just by the shake test. I have gotten new guns with zero tension before.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 5:37:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Extractor is where you should have checked first. Brownells sells a nice cheap guage plate for use with a trigger pull weight. But you can fake it just by the shake test. I have gotten new guns with zero tension before. First thing I'd check, I even have a tension tool for it. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 4:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cause im a retard. Im used to glock and other mags. which feel normal to pull the baseplate to remove the spring. These Colt mags dont seem to have a removable base plate. Am i missing something? How do I remove this? Am I just a bitch? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127073/PXL_20220506_211107423_jpg-2374311.JPG Doesnt look like a real Colt mag, theres no "prancing pony", probably a cheapy aftermarket -- get better mags. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 4:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesnt look like a real Colt mag, theres no "prancing pony", probably a cheapy aftermarket -- get better mags. Those are Colt mags. pre early 1970s vintage, prolly '60s or early '70s. No Colt emblem on them before then. Those mags likely have straight (like GI) feed lips. Great for FMJ but can cause issues with HP, wadcutter, etc. OP - to get them apart, depress the follower about 1/3rd the way, stick a tiny screwdriver, whatever through the witness holes to trap the spring. Invert and shake the follower out and then the spring comes out. That is how you clean or change springs. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:35:56 PM EDT
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Delemort,
My dad has an original Series 70 Gov't and over decades of shooting it we have noticed that 7 round magazines are more reliable on feed than 8. New mags and new springs, Wilson, Tripp, Kimber, ETC... mags were tried. Now this is our experience only but may be a factor? Went to solid G.I. style bushing when hearing of bushing fingers breaking. Rare, but a solid lock up jam) Also one member mentioned extractor tension, very instrumental in reliability. Refinish looks great! Like dad's when he bought it new! @delemorte |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:38:42 PM EDT
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I got new Wilson springs and mag's.
I'll test her out in a few Weeks |
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