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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:09:28 PM EDT
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to me, in my personal experience, its better than Varget in a 223. It also works exceptionally well in a wide variety of rounds.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:10:33 PM EDT
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It’s my go to powder for .308 and I have plenty of Varget.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:18:39 PM EDT
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It isn’t an awesome powder in any one chamber but it’s a great powder in many chambers
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:23:32 PM EDT
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H-4895 is the go to powder for reduced loads. I think that makes it better than being the go to powder for any one particular caliber.
Besides you can use it in anything you use IMR-4895 in with equal success which includes among many others the awesome M1Garand. Motor |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:50:09 PM EDT
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7.62x39.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:00:47 PM EDT
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Great powder for---
146, 147, 150, 155 gr 308 and 3006 174and 180 gr 303 150 gr 8mm Mauser |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:03:03 PM EDT
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From the Hodgdons website:
"As a member of the Extreme line of extruded powder, this powder is a good solution for 30-06, 17 Remington, 250-3000 Savage, 308 Winchester and 458 Winchester, to name just a few. It is amazingly accurate in every cartridge where it is listed in our data." I have used it for 222 Rem, 223/5.56, 243, 257 Roberts, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 308, and 30-06. Not a superfast powder but it has always been a consistent performer for me. I rarely give a damn about MAX velocities, preferring to focus on small groups. Still use a lot of it today. Just not a flashy recipe, merely an old solid performer. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:58:11 PM EDT
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When NW556 comes over to load 45-70, H-4895 is what he uses.
He loads for his Marlin. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 12:48:42 AM EDT
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I seldom shoot any bullets besides the Sierra 69 MK and Sierra 65 GK in ARs or any fast twist .223 because they are more accurate than other bullets I've tried. H4895 has proven to be the best powder for my use. TAC is a close second. In a number of .308 sporting rifles, H4895 has shown best accuracy overall with bullets in the 150 - 180 grain range. Varget does very well with some bullets in some rifles, but remains a little behind H4895 from a general accuarcy perspective, in my experience. However, Varget will often provide slightly higher velocities than H4895.
The reduced load deal with H4895 is usually in reference to cast bullet loads, for which it is very popular. I guess one could also use it for reduced loads using jacketed bullets, if appropriate for the cartridge. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 12:56:01 AM EDT
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I like h4895. I guess that is why I asked the question.
I use it in 556, 308, 300 rsaum and 6.5 creedmoor. I have also made reduced recoil/youth loads in the saum and the CM with great success. I just seem to never find a caliber that people rave about how amazing their H4895 load is. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 1:05:19 AM EDT
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I use it for both 168gr 308 and 75 gr 223.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:34:06 AM EDT
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When picking a powder for my 30-06 M1 Garand loads, I tried both H-4895 and IMR-4895.
Both worked well. The IMR version won only because of some foolish "originally developed for the M1" and retro "old school" fantasies I had at the time. Were I to do it again, I would chose the H-4895. Mind you, there's nothing wrong with IMR-4895. However, had I chosen the H-4895, I would have gotten all the benefits of Hodgdon's Extreme line of powders, not the least of which is insensitivity to temperature. . . . People no longer rave or barely even talk much about 30-06 and 308. That is part of the reason why 4895 doesn't get more "air time", more "play in the press". |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 6:16:58 AM EDT
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H4895 or imr are my go to for my M1 loads
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:25:42 PM EDT
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H4895 is a top pick and great in .223, .308 and .30-06. Like Varget, it works well in all three calibers, you can buy in bulk to save money and reduce stocks of other powders.
The IMR-4895 is better suited for .308 and .30-06 IMO, it's a little too bulky for .223. I like VihtaVuori N140 for .223 and .308 and it's not a lot more expensive if you buy it in 8 pound jugs. 1 pound containers are overpriced. RE-15 works great in all three calibers. The burning rate on all these powders are very close to one another. IMR-4064 is another, but that powder is too course to throw from most measures with any consistency. You can pick Varget, H4895, RE-15 or VihtaVuori N140 and come up with great loads across the board with the three major service rifle rounds. There is no reason why you can't just pick one of these and stick with it. Reloaders, being experiment prone, tend to want to try them all. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 4:41:58 PM EDT
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Most calibers I shoot are better served by slower powders. However, H4895 works extremely well in my .35 Whelen AI because of the smaller case for the caliber, and it works pretty well in my .375 H&H as well. I can get more speed with Re-15 or Varget in the .375 H&H though.
It's a good powder, and if it was in the right burn rate for a new cartridge I'd probably start with it. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 2:01:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I like h4895. I guess that is why I asked the question. I use it in 556, 308, 300 rsaum and 6.5 creedmoor. I have also made reduced recoil/youth loads in the saum and the CM with great success. I just seem to never find a caliber that people rave about how amazing their H4895 load is. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 2:59:49 AM EDT
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For the most part, I don't use it much due to its age. It's a good powder, and lots of people swear by it. But it's also 2018 now. There are more modern formulations with improved temperature stability and so forth. It's surpassed by the likes of Varget and ARComp (Which have about the same burn rate).
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Posted: 2/13/2018 4:12:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
For the most part, I don't use it much due to its age. It's a good powder, and lots of people swear by it. But it's also 2018 now. There are more modern formulations with improved temperature stability and so forth. It's surpassed by the likes of Varget and ARComp (Which have about the same burn rate). 
H4895 is one of Hodgdon's Extreme series of powders, as is Varget. As such, it has the same temperature stability characteristics which helped make Varget so popular. I believe this may be, in part, what prompted the OP's question about why it isn't more popular. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 12:58:34 AM EDT
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You are just being lazy, lazyengineer.
H4895 is one of Hodgdon's Extreme series of powders, as is Varget. As such, it has the same temperature stability characteristics which helped make Varget so popular. I believe this may be, in part, what prompted the OP's question about why it isn't more popular. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For the most part, I don't use it much due to its age. It's a good powder, and lots of people swear by it. But it's also 2018 now. There are more modern formulations with improved temperature stability and so forth. It's surpassed by the likes of Varget and ARComp (Which have about the same burn rate).
H4895 is one of Hodgdon's Extreme series of powders, as is Varget. As such, it has the same temperature stability characteristics which helped make Varget so popular. I believe this may be, in part, what prompted the OP's question about why it isn't more popular. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:09:48 AM EDT
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Oh... really? I thought it was a WWII formulation. I'm confused. According to Wikipedia, Hodgdon got his personal start selling surplus 4895 as early as 1946 - before he even founded his company. Did they reformulate it or something? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:22:32 AM EDT
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You mean IMR-4895? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh... really? I thought it was a WWII formulation. I'm confused. According to Wikipedia, Hodgdon got his personal start selling surplus 4895 as early as 1946 - before he even founded his company. Did they reformulate it or something? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:30:48 AM EDT
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From the Hodgdon web site:
"H4895 is a versatile rifle powder with origins in the 30-06 cartridge as a military powder. This is a historic powder for Hodgdon as it was the first powder sold by our founder, Bruce “B.E.” Hodgdon to the reloading public. As a member of the Extreme line of extruded powder, this powder is a good solution for 30-06, 17 Remington, 250-3000 Savage, 308 Winchester and 458 Winchester, to name just a few. It is amazingly accurate in every cartridge where it is listed in our data." The description of the properties of the Extreme line of powders is too long to post here. In brief, they have: 1. Lot-to-lot consistency 2. Smaller granules for better metering (not sure this applies to H4895, but does apply to Varget and 4831sc) 3. Insensitive to temperature |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 3:26:05 AM EDT
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H4895 has proven to be the most accurate powder for my precision build .223 handloads with light 52 gr. Berger FB Target bullets. Sub 1/2 MOA.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 4:45:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You just aren't talking to old enough reloaders. It is THE powder for .30-'06, especially in the Garand. Hornady doesn't even list loads using it with bullets heavier than 130gr and they list no less than 18 different powders for use with 150gr bullets. If you talk to old timers the go to powder for any 30-06 other than a Garand will most likely be one of the 4350s. 4895 is simply too fast for optimal performance. Motor |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 10:08:10 AM EDT
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H4895 has been awesome for me in 55fmj 223 loads. I generally use 844 because I got it cheap, but price being equal I go to H4895.
Like some other posters I have found other powders that work better in the Garand. |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 4:34:37 AM EDT
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I’ve been using H4895 since I started reloading 7 years ago. I’ve come to love it in all calibers. 223, 243, 303 Brit, 7.62x54r mostly. It’s given me great accuracy and being in Wisconsin I love how temperature insensitive it is. That is a huge bonus for me when it comes to not having to worry about making a load for our 90*+ summers and -20 winters. But it is an awesome mostly universal powder in my experience.
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Posted: 2/15/2018 8:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's definitely one of THE go to powders for the Garand but it's definitely not even in the top 10 for a bolt action 30-06. Hornady doesn't even list loads using it with bullets heavier than 130gr and they list no less than 18 different powders for use with 150gr bullets. If you talk to old timers the go to powder for any 30-06 other than a Garand will most likely be one of the 4350s. 4895 is simply too fast for optimal performance. Motor |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 9:54:33 PM EDT
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What would you recommend for modern powders in a bolt .30-06 with 150-180gr bullets? I'm just beginning to load this caliber. https://imrpowder.com/imr-enduron-4451/ https://imrpowder.com/imr-enduron-4955/ |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 10:01:04 PM EDT
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Modern? These are the newest I can think of. https://imrpowder.com/imr-enduron-4451/ https://imrpowder.com/imr-enduron-4955/ |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 11:22:59 PM EDT
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Maybe modern wasn't a good word choice. Just an overall recommendation. I'll likely only need a pound or so per year. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 12:02:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe modern wasn't a good word choice. Just an overall recommendation. I'll likely only need a pound or so per year. I've IMR-4350 for several buddies rifles. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 2:04:30 AM EDT
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H4895 was my favorite powder behind 168 grn in 308.
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Posted: 2/17/2018 7:39:22 AM EDT
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It’s my go to powder for .308 and I have plenty of Varget. |
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