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Posted: 9/20/2018 5:01:12 PM EDT
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Florida, hot, humid, not good for guns. Any suggestions for keeping them Rust free? I was thinking vacuum pack anti-rust bags... But they are kind of expensive. thoughts? best bag for the money? |
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Posted: 9/20/2018 7:07:39 PM EDT
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Oil and a safe with a dehumidifier inside ( example goldenrod) should be all you need to do
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Posted: 9/20/2018 8:37:40 PM EDT
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Eezox. Best rust preventive I've seen.
As for storage, I dunno. Vacuum bags sound good, but I'd think you're trapping moisture in as much as keeping out. Can't really help on that though, never done long term storage. |
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Posted: 9/20/2018 11:24:41 PM EDT
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Maybe a vaccuum bag along with dessicant bags? I've had good luck with dessicant bags in sealed ammo cans. In the cans without dessicant I can see where condensation formed.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 9:24:48 AM EDT
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I have the goldenrod in my storage area but it doesn't seem to reduce the humidity enough.
I saw this on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/Hysure-Portable-Dehumidifier-Purifier-Electric/dp/B0725ZY3P1/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1537535832&sr=8-4&keywords=mini+dehumidifiers+for+bedroom It's only 8.2"x5.1"x4.3" it would need to be modified to have a drain hose. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 7:41:20 PM EDT
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http://www.zerustproducts.com/products/firearms-ammo-weapons/vci-gun-storage-bags/
VCI bags are super simple. Works in the Pacific NW. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 8:01:36 PM EDT
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Rig grease
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Posted: 9/29/2018 12:38:32 PM EDT
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vacuum bags never work despite people recommanding them.
they get pinholes in them when the metal hits another metal or rubs against something. dehumidifier boeshieild on gun that don't get used a lot good maint on used guns VCI bags/rods if you must |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 12:47:59 PM EDT
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I lived in Hawaii.
I came to the conclusion that rust was probably/maybe gonna happen to blued guns. Even with a strict oil wiping prior to being put away. This thought got me into buying stainless steel when I had a choice. Good luck. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 4:47:19 PM EDT
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cosmoline.
or oil+dessicants |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 7:01:57 PM EDT
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I have the goldenrod in my storage area but it doesn't seem to reduce the humidity enough. I saw this on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/Hysure-Portable-Dehumidifier-Purifier-Electric/dp/B0725ZY3P1/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1537535832&sr=8-4&keywords=mini+dehumidifiers+for+bedroom It's only 8.2"x5.1"x4.3" it would need to be modified to have a drain hose. I also use the rechargeable desiccant “dehumidifiers”. And VCI capsules. I have been spitballing the idea of a small electric dehumidifier with a drain out of the safe. But if it fails, you will have a bucket of water in your safe....HUMIDIFYING the air. |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 7:46:47 PM EDT
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Birchwood Casey Barricade (formerly Sheath), and desiccant
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Posted: 9/30/2018 12:09:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Golden rods do not decrease humidity. They raise the temp inside the safe above the dew point to prevent condensation of moisture. I find that 40W incandescent bulbs work better than a Golden Rod. There is a ton of info about this in the “ask thesafeguy” thread. I also use the rechargeable desiccant “dehumidifiers”. And VCI capsules. I have been spitballing the idea of a small electric dehumidifier with a drain out of the safe. But if it fails, you will have a bucket of water in your safe....HUMIDIFYING the air. |
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Posted: 9/30/2018 6:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which rechargeable ones? Eva Dry E500 renewable dehumidifier I plug them into a wall outlet for 48 hrs about once a month. You could certainly run more than two. I probably should add two more. |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 3:39:18 AM EDT
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It depends on how quickly you think you need to access them and what kinds of guns they are. If it's an antique with a delicate blued finish I'd protect that differently than I would protect a Glock.
Steel components need to be oiled, but don't bother if it's too hard to get to (like a mag spring or something). I recommend Ballistol because you'll want to lay it on pretty thick. It will work as a lubricant, is non-toxic, and doesn't hurt leather and wood. There is only one place that really, truly matters: the chamber. Brush your chambers, put patches over the brush to scrub them clean, and then oil them. Remove the oil with patches before shooting however. If the outside of your slide gets pitted, it won't really matter. But if you have a pitted chamber that could easily lead to failures to extract. Long term ammo needs to go in a quality ammo can with a dessicant inside. Do not put any oil or solvents on the ammo, leave the ammo in the factory boxes, and don't handle loose rounds unless wearing a glove. |
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Posted: 10/2/2018 12:20:19 AM EDT
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I live in FL... have all my life other than when in the military and even seven of the twenty I was still in FL.
I've never had a problem with rust, neither has my brother, who has also lived here all his life. We keep our firearms inside the house, in a safe, with nothing extra. I'm in central FL and he's in north FL. I even lived on the west coast for a year... no problems. Are any of you having rust issues? Even guns I have not shot in YEARS get pulled out once a year and looked at... no issues. |
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Posted: 10/3/2018 11:55:29 PM EDT
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Dehumidifier in my 900 sq ft finished basement area keeps the safe room at about 33% and 40% in the rest of the basement in humid TN summers. I have a golden rod in the safe also for over kill.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 7:47:34 PM EDT
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Not sure why some many need to over complicate things.
Just use what our military, firearm and parts manufacturers all use... VCI |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:20:28 AM EDT
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EDV-365AD-CS Eva-Dry Air Dry System Bundle
This one looks promising. I need to get one for my safe as well. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:21:10 AM EDT
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Not sure why some many need to over complicate things. Just use what our military, firearm and parts manufacturers all use... VCI 
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Posted: 11/2/2018 9:31:27 PM EDT
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I travel for a living so 90% of my collection gets stored. I have all my stuff in one of these bags. At 7.5 mil thick the chances are lower that you might punch a hole in the bag. I dont move my stuff around much so that prevents possible holes. I also oil the heck out of them beforehand. Been working for me for years. A few bucks to save a $1000 firearm is worth it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EV3VTRA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:26:28 AM EDT
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EDV-365AD-CS Eva-Dry Air Dry System Bundle This one looks promising. I need to get one for my safe as well. In my experience, unless you routinely "dry it out / recharge it " the moisture is collected some where within the unit. And while humidity levels are lowered... the moisture is still in a confined area... IE your safe... so if it is "full"... as in cannot collect any more moisture... it kind of turns into a wet towel in the safe's confines. Hope that makes sense.... so if you do use something like that, be sure to set a schedule for "recharging it". The VCI bags mentioned... work very well for me. Kind of a clean the firearm ( your salty sweat finger prints for sure ) , lube it, bag it , and forget it. VCI bag info.... from a vareity of Google results. Iprefer them out here in the PNW... they do work. I have used them in un-heated rooms ( garage / shed ) and climate controlled areas. The ones I have used are from here ....http://www.polygunbag.com/index.html https://www.google.com/search?q=VCI+rifle+bags&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:39:29 AM EDT
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Fatboy safe in an a non-climate controlled room in SW Florida. Large Golden Rod. Only issues I’ve had are with guns that had some mild rust issues to begin with. In summer I might put a few of those moisture absorbers just to err on the side of caution. I use the safe regularly so I keep an eye on things. It’s been working great.
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