User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 5/14/2022 7:44:13 PM EDT
[#1]
I've been thinking of this myself.
Researching shows S&H seems the be the shyte at cutting down the barrel. How much is this chop gonna cost? Get it done and report back. That's an order. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/14/2022 7:51:03 PM EDT
[#2]
With the sp5l it would make for a great host for a mp5sd. Maybe something to consider.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/14/2022 8:17:35 PM EDT
[#3]
I replaced the barrel on my Sp5l with a normal mp5 barrel. Came out great. Cost was 1 barrel and couple hundred to swap it out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/14/2022 10:13:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With the sp5l it would make for a great host for a mp5sd. Maybe something to consider. Mine is for an MP5 donor. HKRalph SR uses the factory barrel to make the SD barrel so could not see sending out my spare SP5 just to have a perfectly good tri lug barrel chopped up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 7:14:08 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is for an MP5 donor. HKRalph SR uses the factory barrel to make the SD barrel so could not see sending out my spare SP5 just to have a perfectly good tri lug barrel chopped up. Decades ago, I had RDTS make me an K-SD from a SP89. They used the factory barrel and the result was a barrel thinner than a P7M8 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 7:48:20 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Decades ago, I had RDTS make me an K-SD from a SP89. They used the factory barrel and the result was a barrel thinner than a P7M8 I’m sure his methodology has changed a bit from decades ago. For one, he has changed the suppressor thread pitch to HK’s OE. Therefore, one would speculate barrel dimensions must be same to attach, say a B&T suppressor. I would not be having him do it if I was stuck with only one option of suppressor use. We shall see. I have a B&T barrel on hand as well. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 8:06:14 AM EDT
[#7]
It’s an odd one for sure. The SP5L exists for the one person that wants a 16 inch barrel.
It’s imported in pistol config, sold in pistol config and the American user can then legally attach a stock on the firearm making it a legal rifle. It can’t be imported as a rifle, meaning, it can’t be imported with a 16 inch barrel with a stock. That’s al I got on it, all around a poor idea. I have a HK SP5k that I had the barrel replaced with a B&T tri lug, internals replaced to handle a full auto trigger group. All that was about $500-600 when they first came out. Then I paid the $200 permission fee. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 8:35:00 AM EDT
[#8]
SP5L makes a great donor gun. hkralphjr2 did mine with a B&T barrel.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 8:51:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SP5L makes a great donor gun. hkralphjr2 did mine with a B&T barrel. https://i.imgur.com/C6v5mH6.jpg Nice! |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 11:37:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SP5L makes a great donor gun. hkralphjr2 did mine with a B&T barrel. https://i.imgur.com/C6v5mH6.jpg |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 3:07:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted: The LGS had an SP5 for $3700 and a SP5L for $2600. Obviously I want the short configuration but at an $1100 premium I figured I can get chopped and still come out ahead? Did I make a horrible mistake? It looks like S&H in Tulsa does a really nice job at this where you keep the tri-lug and threaded barrel. I'm going to SBR it so I'm not so concerned about resale value. Not at all. B&T sells MP5 barrels new for $330 or so: https://bt-parts.com/b-t-hammer-forged-barrel-for-mp5-bt96-cal-9x19mm/ I used the SP5K/MP5K B&T barrel back with the SP5K didn't come with a three lug or thread for my SBR build. B&T makes great barrels for the MP5. They are not chrome lined but for 9 mm, who cares? If you have the money, I would still find a SP5 and keep the SP5L as a reference for competition, etc. PS: I used this man for my SP5K conversion: http://www.tscmachine.com/ . My friends with HK machine guns swear by him |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 4:44:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't mind me asking, what is the ballpark cost on a conversion like that? $2500ish for the work and SD cage. I provided B&T barrel, HK rubber handguard, and HK SD locking piece. You can save a little money going RCM but that seemed wrong when starting with an HK. You are probably talking $6kish total for a converted SD. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 4:51:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $2500ish for the work and SD cage. I provided B&T barrel, HK rubber handguard, and HK SD locking piece. You can save a little money going RCM but that seemed wrong when starting with an HK. You are probably talking $6kish total for a converted SD. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you don't mind me asking, what is the ballpark cost on a conversion like that? $2500ish for the work and SD cage. I provided B&T barrel, HK rubber handguard, and HK SD locking piece. You can save a little money going RCM but that seemed wrong when starting with an HK. You are probably talking $6kish total for a converted SD. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 5:14:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $2500ish for the work and SD cage. I provided B&T barrel, HK rubber handguard, and HK SD locking piece. You can save a little money going RCM but that seemed wrong when starting with an HK. You are probably talking $6kish total for a converted SD. The hard part is the wait. I was told 6 months for my build and expect longer. These well known HK smiths are swamped with work. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 5:25:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not at all. B&T sells MP5 barrels new for $330 or so: https://bt-parts.com/b-t-hammer-forged-barrel-for-mp5-bt96-cal-9x19mm/ I used the SP5K/MP5K B&T barrel back with the SP5K didn't come with a three lug or thread for my SBR build. B&T makes great barrels for the MP5. They are not chrome lined but for 9 mm, who cares? If you have the money, I would still find a SP5 and keep the SP5L as a reference for competition, etc. PS: I used this man for my SP5K conversion: http://www.tscmachine.com/ . My friends with HK machine guns swear by him Mike is great and the shop is amazing. I had him engrave a SBR for me, he showed me the shop real quick and and we were talking while someone else setup the gun for the engraving. The only bummer is that he only works on HK's, and not clones. He told me there just is not enough attention to spec and using correct parts from so many companies out there that he does not want to end up going down a rabbit hole trying to work on one thing and seeing other stuff that is not right. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 5:29:30 PM EDT
[#16]
Couldn't you drill the 20 or so vent holes in the barrel like the original mp5sd had, chop it and thread it, and put a B&T Suppressor on it to duplicate the original SD?
Or is that what that other conversion was? |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 6:07:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't you drill the 20 or so vent holes in the barrel like the original mp5sd had, chop it and thread it, and put a B&T Suppressor on it to duplicate the original SD? Or is that what that other conversion was? Not just that simple, the conversion consists of total front end refit. The SD requires a different sight tower, the barrel is only 5.75" is not part of it and the cage gets welded to it). The barrel needs threads at trunion side vs. muzzle and are a larger thread. The hand guard becomes a cage (with a rubber surround) that is welded to the receiver and becomes part of the weapon. The cocking tube needs to be swapped out for the SD version if you want SD correctness but that can be waived if you are not a stickler. Some leave the current semi shelf but other wanting sear host might have it converted to old school semi shelf....Although the SP5/L does not make a great candidate for a host due to the F/A carrier block weld into the receiver. As noted above, the SD requires a different locking piece and an HK piece can be tough to get at times and are at a premium compared to plain 100° when you can. Just a some off the top of my head. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 6:21:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not just that simple, the conversion consists of total front end refit. The SD requires a different sight tower, the barrel is only 5.75" is not part of it and the cage gets welded to it). The barrel needs threads at trunion side vs. muzzle and are a larger thread. The hand guard becomes a cage (with a rubber surround) that is welded to the receiver and becomes part of the weapon. The cocking tube needs to be swapped out for the SD version if you want SD correctness but that can be waived if you are not a stickler. Some leave the current semi shelf but other wanting sear host might have it converted to old school semi shelf....Although the SP5/L does not make a great candidate for a host due to the F/A carrier block weld into the receiver. As noted above, the SD requires a different locking piece and an HK piece can be tough to get at times and are at a premium compared to plain 100° when you can. Just a some off the top of my head. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Couldn't you drill the 20 or so vent holes in the barrel like the original mp5sd had, chop it and thread it, and put a B&T Suppressor on it to duplicate the original SD? Or is that what that other conversion was? Not just that simple, the conversion consists of total front end refit. The SD requires a different sight tower, the barrel is only 5.75" is not part of it and the cage gets welded to it). The barrel needs threads at trunion side vs. muzzle and are a larger thread. The hand guard becomes a cage (with a rubber surround) that is welded to the receiver and becomes part of the weapon. The cocking tube needs to be swapped out for the SD version if you want SD correctness but that can be waived if you are not a stickler. Some leave the current semi shelf but other wanting sear host might have it converted to old school semi shelf....Although the SP5/L does not make a great candidate for a host due to the F/A carrier block weld into the receiver. As noted above, the SD requires a different locking piece and an HK piece can be tough to get at times and are at a premium compared to plain 100° when you can. Just a some off the top of my head. Thanks. Didn't know there was that much involved. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/15/2022 6:28:01 PM EDT
[#19]
Guys who are lucky enough (or have no issue paying $5k) to source a German SD front end actually have it grafted onto the front end of a host weapon. You better know what you’re doing with that type of work-hence the wait and expense.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/3/2022 10:55:07 PM EDT
[#20]
Update: Curtis from S and H called me back. It is $300 to cut the barrel and re-attach the lug. I sent it off yesterday. I'll post pics when I get it back.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
