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Posted: 6/16/2018 9:31:21 PM EDT
The bump helmet in my earlier ghetto helmet thread seemed to shift no matter what I did. Rather than spend a mint on a set of good pads and straps to make it work, I decided to grab a real ballistic helmet from Bulletproof-it. Still having a problem finding an affordable helmet mount for the Newcon NVS-7, so back to Gerryrigging a solution with zipties. The tiny holes for the Wilcox mount were a bitch to thread a zip tie through, and I didn't want to try opening them further. Finally had some success. The third and fourth anchor points were a little harder and less snug than on the bump helmet, but I did t want to monkey with the rails. The loops for the zipties even provide a convenient place to put the bungees when not in use.
Verdict? 
The original Ghetto Gerryrig 
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Posted: 6/16/2018 9:51:37 PM EDT
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If it works and is stable enough for your usage, then good on you!
Since you went with a ballistic helm though, I take it you may use it for shooting/outings? Not familiar with your NVG, but a shroud+mount is what you really need if you want it set up properly. |
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Posted: 6/16/2018 10:02:36 PM EDT
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If it works and is stable enough for your usage, then good on you! Since you went with a ballistic helm though, I take it you may use it for shooting/outings? Not familiar with your NVG, but a shroud+mount is what you really need if you want it set up properly. I grabbed the ballistic helmet because I got a sick deal of a US made IIIA helmet, and it keeps things balanced well without having to invest in a new suspension system for my bump helmet. I just went on a little hike and it seemed to work well enough for now. |
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Posted: 6/16/2018 11:37:11 PM EDT
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For a ghetto loaner helmet I grabbed a knock off from eBay for 45 bucks. Made sure it had had the three joke shroud. Ditched the plastic shroud and added a Wilcox. For less than $100 I have a great loaner that I am not afraid to mount my expensive nods to. The caveat is the pads kinda suck but I don't wear it so who cares lol.
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Posted: 6/16/2018 11:49:19 PM EDT
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Problem is my unit is a Newcon NVS-7. It works well, but it uses a unique dovetail. I can Gerryrig the skullcrusher it came with to a helmet - skullcrusher sucked on its own, but the Wilcox shroud for it is ridiculously expensive, and almost nobody carries it. Cheapest I've found it is $284!
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Posted: 6/17/2018 1:14:41 AM EDT
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm seeing a screw on top of the unit. Shouldn't it be easy for a machinist to make an L bracket that uses the shoehorn off a $25 used J arm and mates it to that screwhole? I wouldn't charge more than $50 for that, and I bet you could find someone for $30 if you did the hard part of making all the measurements and having a decent plan.
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Posted: 6/17/2018 3:12:17 AM EDT
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm seeing a screw on top of the unit. Shouldn't it be easy for a machinist to make an L bracket that uses the shoehorn off a $25 used J arm and mates it to that screwhole? I wouldn't charge more than $50 for that, and I bet you could find someone for $30 if you did the hard part of making all the measurements and having a decent plan. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 9:00:03 AM EDT
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I'm not sure why you just don't get a std mount and shroud. Is this a special model -7 with a special mount? Maybe Augee can school us on the differences of the -7 series? I though it was a simple deal to mount one up, like surplus parts for the -14. A guy had a 7A housing on the other day with a bayo fitting; I can see the mount looks different but am unfamiliar with this series.
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Posted: 6/17/2018 9:39:59 AM EDT
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I'm not sure why you just don't get a std mount and shroud. Is this a special model -7 with a special mount? Maybe Augee can school us on the differences of the -7 series? I though it was a simple deal to mount one up, like surplus parts for the -14. A guy had a 7A housing on the other day with a bayo fitting; I can see the mount looks different but am unfamiliar with this series. It's not the series I would have chosen, but it was what was offered in trade, and it's what I'm working with for the time being. ETA, I have a Wilcox interface, Rhino 2, and a J-Arm. But those are useless here. The $284 mount takes the place of a Rhino 2 and J-arm. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:00:56 AM EDT
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Ah very interesting. Yeah, you take what you have and work it; I totally get that.
If the factory stuff ain't in the works, then perhaps you could build up something a bit more permanent. I would try and cut down the crusher to just a rectangle mounting plate. Then laminate that, with a good epoxy, to a thicker, stiffer piece of plastic (or possibly .024" alum). that could be used as a doubler to direct mount it, via screws, to the helmet. Perhaps even sandwich the plastic mount between two alum. doublers and then hard mount it. I assume it has a push-button detachment, where the -7 can still be removed. At the same time, I would think you'd want to make a counter-weight pouch! |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:06:23 AM EDT
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Ah very interesting. Yeah, you take what you have and work it; I totally get that. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 12:06:36 PM EDT
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Does that L bracket screw into the pvs7......or does the PVS 7 have a threaded hole?
If so I would screw a dovetail into it and go from there. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 12:13:22 PM EDT
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Does that L bracket screw into the pvs7......or does the PVS 7 have a threaded hole? If so I would screw a dovetail into it and go from there. 
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Posted: 6/17/2018 1:32:01 PM EDT
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At this point, I would honestly just try to find some way to attach a Wilcox/Litton dovetail to it, I don’t have one in hand, but looking at that rail, there looks like plenty of meat to just drill and tap a few holes to mount a dovetail to, and Wilcox sells plenty of replacement dovetails for various devices. You could also see if Adam at AB Night Vision will sell you just the dovetail off the MOD-3, which uses a couple screws, rather than the single center screw that the Wilcox uses.
You can even use the Newcon adapter you have if you don’t want to drill into the device itself, and you’ve already cannibalized it anyways, but it doesn’t really seem worth it to go through that much more trouble to find such an obscure and proprietary mount versus simply converting it to something more universal that you will be able to use for other devices in the future should you ever decide to upgrade. ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:49:32 AM EDT
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My assumption is that mounting platform is removable, judging from the 4 screw holes. If this is removable, perhaps a plate could be fabricated to mount a dovetail.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:29:32 AM EDT
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My assumption is that mounting platform is removable, judging from the 4 screw holes. If this is removable, perhaps a plate could be fabricated to mount a dovetail. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:41:20 PM EDT
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I bet my basement dwelling machinist would drill some holes in a dovetail for you on the cheap.
Eta it might be close to a sentinel dovetail or a DTNVG dovetail bolt pattern. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 5:07:24 PM EDT
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I bet my basement dwelling machinist would drill some holes in a dovetail for you on the cheap. Eta it might be close to a sentinel dovetail or a DTNVG dovetail bolt pattern. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 5:14:39 PM EDT
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Should have got my PVS-7’s way easier to mount and Gen 3!
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Posted: 6/18/2018 7:10:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would you need from me to get that done? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:18:04 PM EDT
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Should have got my PVS-7’s way easier to mount and Gen 3! |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You would would need to send the the piece with the four holes from the newcon pvs7 and buy a dovetail. That way he can measure the hole spacing and drill the new dovetail. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:36:20 PM EDT
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There is a dovetail adapter for the aka2 that should work with the rhino 2....tnvc has them.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:53:19 PM EDT
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There is a dovetail adapter for the aka2 that should work with the rhino 2....tnvc has them. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 10:17:20 PM EDT
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Should have got my PVS-7’s way easier to mount and Gen 3! |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry life got busy and I noticed you had posted that you had snagged a pair by the time I was able to really get to it. |
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