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Posted: 8/11/2021 11:13:39 PM EDT
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That FAl is sexy
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Posted: 8/11/2021 11:20:36 PM EDT
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Selous Scouts~
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Posted: 8/11/2021 11:27:45 PM EDT
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What would be the closest current DSA model that matches the DSA in the picture with the warden and dog?
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Posted: 8/12/2021 1:21:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556: What would be the closest current DSA model that matches the DSA in the picture with the warden and dog? 16in para or 18in para Congo Then change out the handguards for NBC ones and swap the rear sight for the standard type. |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 3:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556: What would be the closest current DSA model that matches the DSA in the picture with the warden and dog? The rifle in the picture is not a DSA. The only DSA part is the scope mount. 16.25" para with carry handle, whatever version they have, with a Type 2 receiver if they give you the option, would be closest. |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 5:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JKH62: Selous Scouts~ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/5a/5c/3c5a5c2721b1aaa2c0ef01ae6f3da43c.jpg Not Selous Scouts, but members of The Rhodesia Regiment. 4 Indep Coy comes to mind, but don't quote me on that bit. |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 9:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marcus5819: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127394/4657AA76-214A-4945-82CD-5E5732606520_jpe-1817714.JPG This FAL |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 9:44:56 PM EDT
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https://www.dsarms.com/p-17198-dsa-sa58-fal-18-bush-warrior-rifle-traditional-profile-barrel-fixed-stock-rifle.aspx
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:03:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556: This FAL Not a DSA rifle. FN SADF contract 50.61 with the barrel cut down to something in the realm of 16.5-16.75" and what may be a replacement receiver (also FN), as well as a DSA scope mount. Now, DSA did have a contract with the SAN Parks Rangers for FALs. Those have the 16.25" barrels, green plastic furniture, an OD green finish (Kal-Gard GUnkote or something like that), DSA's version of the folding stock, scope mount (also shipped with the standard top cover), gas plug with lever, handguards with the bipod grooves, Type 2 receivers (and probably an alloy trigger housing), 2-position para rear sight, custom serial location, and a fixed charging handle. DSA did sell a repro of it for the U.S. market at some point with a rhino engraved on the magazine well as well as a repro of their Kenyan contract rifles (fixed stock with 18" barrel, but otherwise pretty similar). Out of what they have listed, this is the closest you'll get. To make it look a little closer, you can get one of the FN tangent rear sight bases for paras, a grenade sight gas plug, and the DSA scope mount. https://www.dsarms.com/p-14231-dsa-sa58-16-traditional-profile-barrel-para-stock-rifle.aspx |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:10:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marcus5819: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127394/4657AA76-214A-4945-82CD-5E5732606520_jpe-1817714.JPG I could never get over the severe angle of that pistol grip. Is there an alternative that is offered by someone where the angle is more vertical? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 4:35:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigstick61]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SEAN10MM: I could never get over the severe angle of that pistol grip. Is there an alternative that is offered by someone where the angle is more vertical? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SEAN10MM: Originally Posted By marcus5819: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127394/4657AA76-214A-4945-82CD-5E5732606520_jpe-1817714.JPG I could never get over the severe angle of that pistol grip. Is there an alternative that is offered by someone where the angle is more vertical? The original wood grips were less rakish. Originals and reproductions can be found on the market. I believe FAB Defense makes a FAL grip, and it also has a better angle, as did Ergo Grip. The Minimi pistol grip (both from FN and repros by Tapco) also has a better angle and the Minimi basically uses the same grip as the FAL (same attachment method and dimensions; the Minimi originally used the grip in the picture above). This is my choice for my own rifle, pictured below. The angle of the plastic grips was a change made to make launching rifle grenades less stressful on the wrist, as I understand it, compared to the original grip angle. 
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Posted: 8/13/2021 9:20:30 PM EDT
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Cants stand the 16inch barrels in a 308. I would say 18inch is the shortest I’d go
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Posted: 8/13/2021 9:21:11 PM EDT
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Can you get a 18 with a full length gas system? Or 16’inch
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Posted: 8/14/2021 2:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556: Can you get a 18 with a full length gas system? Or 16’inch Both. The one I posted above is a 17 with full-length gas. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 2:11:38 AM EDT
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I like this
https://www.dsarms.com/p-14231-dsa-sa58-16-traditional-profile-barrel-para-stock-rifle.aspx I find the fixed stock better for my cheek when shooting. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 6:23:37 PM EDT
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This is a nice clone - the pic is the 1st one in the thread
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/FAL--DSA-FAL-16-inch-barrel/5-2313726/ |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 6:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556: This is a nice clone - the pic is the 1st one in the thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/FAL--DSA-FAL-16-inch-barrel/5-2313726/ I think that's Chase45's FAL. @Chase45 |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 7:35:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2021 5:53:37 PM EDT
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Great thread! I commend you all on your knowledge of the platform.
I used to own two Belgium Para FALs but, alas, I traded them away as my interest wandered. I more recently have picked up some DSA variants that I am very happy with, especially my DSA OSW 13" barreled gun. Unfortunately I am on the road and no pix are available at this time. I will try to remember to post some when this current cycle of traveling overland is done. I have a little Aimpoint T1 Micro red dot on it and a small 3" rail mounted through the handguard for a mini Surefire Scout weaponlight. I have found that I like the A.R.M.S. #3 top cover rail mount much better than the DSA bolt on version. It is much lighter and slips right in the receiver like the OEM does. I have also used Rustolium Satin Black paint baked in the oven to simulate the factory finish on FAL mags and parts. It is also a good match for H&K products. Thanks for a great thread! TheMULE |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 1:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: G0VT_MULE]
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Regarding my post above, here are a couple of pictures. These are not meant to be "Gamewarden Clone" pix, just my personal favorite FAL, a DSA OSW with 13 inch barrel.
As I mentioned in the above post, the rail top cover is an A.R.M.S. product. It keeps the "riveted" look of the DSA top cover but is much lighter and uses the OEM type of attachment, sliding into the receiver from the rear. Flash hider is a Gemtech BiLock for use with my Gemtech suppressor. The grip is a knock-off SAW/Minimi grip made by TAPCO several years ago, since discontinued. Front rail is a generic 3" rail which usually has a Surefire Mini Scout Light on it.. Sling is a Blue Force Gear adjustable Vicker's Combat Application sling with a Kryptek pattern. I had a flip up ladder gas block sight on it for cutting off the gas flow while using the suppressor (very quiet) but it is a somewhat delicate piece and relatively costly for what it is so I removed it for now and just use the standard gas plug. I love the FALs and just had to get in on the thread. Thanks! TheMULE  
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Posted: 11/11/2021 2:41:38 PM EDT
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That looks great. I am eternally on the fence if I want a FAL or not. I have an AR-10 and I nearly shoot that.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 7:53:01 PM EDT
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Thanks!
The FAL is kind of an "era gun" in that it has come and gone for most of the general public. The AR-10 is currently the hot item and a fine rifle with the commonality of the AR system. The FAL has the benefit of being "bone through the nose" simple to maintain and almost as many sources for cheap surplus and aftermarket parts as the AR systems. I would encourage you to get an FAL, they point so well and are just so damn pretty! Thanks again! TheMULE |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 1:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX]
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I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro.
Ill post a picture in a bit. 
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Posted: 11/13/2021 4:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattjedi: There doesn’t seem to be any hard and fast rule for how these rifles are set up. For example, this one has a railed foregrip, folding charging handle and standard para rear sight. https://africageographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/13-neels-van-wyk-ravi-gajjar.jpg ---------------------------------------------------- I have a DSA rifle length railed handguard similar to that over in the EE. TheMULE |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 4:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro. Ill post a picture in a bit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136887/20211113_102502-2165438.jpg --------------------------------- Nice job! TheMULE |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 12:41:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G0VT_MULE: --------------------------------- Nice job! TheMULE Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G0VT_MULE: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro. Ill post a picture in a bit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136887/20211113_102502-2165438.jpg --------------------------------- Nice job! TheMULE Thanks. The cheek weld was a little off with the aim point so I had to put a piece of pool noodle around the tube under the cloth. It helped out and worked out well. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 3:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Thanks. The cheek weld was a little off with the aim point so I had to put a piece of pool noodle around the tube under the cloth. It helped out and worked out well. ------------------------------------ When I had a higher mounted scope on mine I used a piece of grey polystyrene pipe insulation to do the same thing. TheMULE |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 6:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro. Ill post a picture in a bit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136887/20211113_102502-2165438.jpg Now, if there's a rifle that looks like it'd be at home in the bush... Really cool build. 
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Posted: 11/19/2021 11:43:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Now, if there's a rifle that looks like it'd be at home in the bush... Really cool build. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro. Ill post a picture in a bit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136887/20211113_102502-2165438.jpg Now, if there's a rifle that looks like it'd be at home in the bush... Really cool build. Thanks :) |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 11:04:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I did a similar clone of the gun that the gentleman and his dog are pictures with. I used multicam and an aim point pro. Ill post a picture in a bit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136887/20211113_102502-2165438.jpg
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Posted: 1/22/2022 1:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Not Selous Scouts, but members of The Rhodesia Regiment. 4 Indep Coy comes to mind, but don't quote me on that bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Originally Posted By JKH62: Selous Scouts~ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/5a/5c/3c5a5c2721b1aaa2c0ef01ae6f3da43c.jpg Not Selous Scouts, but members of The Rhodesia Regiment. 4 Indep Coy comes to mind, but don't quote me on that bit. Dog a Rhodesian Ridgeback? |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 12:19:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RogerRoger]
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My Bruce Leslie clone, used to belong to a friend of mine that has gone west now.
Special attention was given to the rear sight and cut on the folding stock hinge plate. All Belgian parts. Except for the receiver, lower, and gas plug grenade sight of course. A very special rifle.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 7:14:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Dog a Rhodesian Ridgeback? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Originally Posted By lew: Originally Posted By JKH62: Selous Scouts~ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/5a/5c/3c5a5c2721b1aaa2c0ef01ae6f3da43c.jpg Not Selous Scouts, but members of The Rhodesia Regiment. 4 Indep Coy comes to mind, but don't quote me on that bit. Dog a Rhodesian Ridgeback? Nope. Some kind of herding/working dog, but I can't quite put my finger on it. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 8:29:01 PM EDT
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I did up a clone a few years back. Took a little recent liberty on the optic (originally had an Aimpoint).
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Posted: 6/2/2022 8:45:58 PM EDT
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Most informative thread and interesting topic. I noticed some informed discussion regarding the factory coating applied over Parkerizing on certain FAL’s. I have forgotten way more then I remember on the topic so I will just copy and paste and old post of mine:
“The Brownell's baking lacquer leaves a very thick finish, and is quite like the original "stoving" found on FMAP, FN, BSA, IMBEL, Enfield, and Lithgow FAL type rifles. I like the stuff when doing up a FAL, would not use it on anything else though. It is difficult to work with, you have to thin it, leaves a thick finish, and it is gooey stuff.” |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 6:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ekie: Most informative thread and interesting topic. I noticed some informed discussion regarding the factory coating applied over Parkerizing on certain FAL’s. I have forgotten way more then I remember on the topic so I will just copy and paste and old post of mine: “The Brownell's baking lacquer leaves a very thick finish, and is quite like the original "stoving" found on FMAP, FN, BSA, IMBEL, Enfield, and Lithgow FAL type rifles. I like the stuff when doing up a FAL, would not use it on anything else though. It is difficult to work with, you have to thin it, leaves a thick finish, and it is gooey stuff.” A former coworker turned me on to Rustoleum 7777 black satin spray paint as an almost dead ringer for the factory FN paint. I used it on a Portuguese m962 clone and it looked fantastic. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 4:30:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: A former coworker turned me on to Rustoleum 7777 black satin spray paint as an almost dead ringer for the factory FN paint. I used it on a Portuguese m962 clone and it looked fantastic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Originally Posted By Ekie: Most informative thread and interesting topic. I noticed some informed discussion regarding the factory coating applied over Parkerizing on certain FAL’s. I have forgotten way more then I remember on the topic so I will just copy and paste and old post of mine: “The Brownell's baking lacquer leaves a very thick finish, and is quite like the original "stoving" found on FMAP, FN, BSA, IMBEL, Enfield, and Lithgow FAL type rifles. I like the stuff when doing up a FAL, would not use it on anything else though. It is difficult to work with, you have to thin it, leaves a thick finish, and it is gooey stuff.” A former coworker turned me on to Rustoleum 7777 black satin spray paint as an almost dead ringer for the factory FN paint. I used it on a Portuguese m962 clone and it looked fantastic. On the FAL Files, someone used the Rustoleum to finish an IMBEL receiver on an IMBEL on IMBEL build before distressing the receiver to match the wear on the kit (which he did well). Looked awesome. There was no apparent difference between the receiver and the rest of the parts. Looked like a match in the pictures. Very nice. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 4:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: I did up a clone a few years back. Took a little recent liberty on the optic (originally had an Aimpoint). https://i.imgur.com/vUoJ2ZC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FPA7wt1.jpg @dump1567 What mount is that? I like how low it sits to the rail. What optic? |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 9:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: @dump1567 What mount is that? I like how low it sits to the rail. What optic? They're just A.R.M.S. low Q/D rings. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 5:12:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: On the FAL Files, someone used the Rustoleum to finish an IMBEL receiver on an IMBEL on IMBEL build before distressing the receiver to match the wear on the kit (which he did well). Looked awesome. There was no apparent difference between the receiver and the rest of the parts. Looked like a match in the pictures. Very nice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By lew: Originally Posted By Ekie: Most informative thread and interesting topic. I noticed some informed discussion regarding the factory coating applied over Parkerizing on certain FAL’s. I have forgotten way more then I remember on the topic so I will just copy and paste and old post of mine: “The Brownell's baking lacquer leaves a very thick finish, and is quite like the original "stoving" found on FMAP, FN, BSA, IMBEL, Enfield, and Lithgow FAL type rifles. I like the stuff when doing up a FAL, would not use it on anything else though. It is difficult to work with, you have to thin it, leaves a thick finish, and it is gooey stuff.” A former coworker turned me on to Rustoleum 7777 black satin spray paint as an almost dead ringer for the factory FN paint. I used it on a Portuguese m962 clone and it looked fantastic. On the FAL Files, someone used the Rustoleum to finish an IMBEL receiver on an IMBEL on IMBEL build before distressing the receiver to match the wear on the kit (which he did well). Looked awesome. There was no apparent difference between the receiver and the rest of the parts. Looked like a match in the pictures. Very nice. If this was a few years back, we're probably talking about the same guy. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:16:02 PM EDT
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Bump to avoid the Archives.
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Posted: 11/22/2022 11:13:40 AM EDT
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Be a Man among Men
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Posted: 11/22/2022 5:43:04 PM EDT
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Mine I built around 2002 or so. Those were the days of TAPCO cheap parts kits and $189.00 Imbel receivers.
I think I did this one for around $350.00  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 6:00:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: marcus5819]
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Posted: 7/2/2023 12:20:18 PM EDT
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Bump to save from the archive
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Posted: 8/14/2023 7:44:40 PM EDT
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 Attached FileAfter about 20 years since I had a FAL in the stable today I took possession of one. I’m debating if I should rattle can it… |
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