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That sucks bro, sorry to hear that. Anything I can do to help you know how to reach me.
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Did you at least beat your woman so she learned her lesson?
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It's been a long time since I took one apart. I remember little hex nuts at the end of the IPD screws though. Nylocks maybe?
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The ole lady dropped our new to us Anvis-9 and the PAS/shelf is kaput. Happened when she was deploying them from stowed they popped out of the Anvis mount. I'm trying to do a DIY repair but can't figure out how to remove the monoculars, etc. to swap in a new PAS. It appears I need to remove the IP knobs to slide the screws out but I don't see any clips/rings/retainers holding them on. Don't want to damage any parts I might need for the swap. Not going to piss away any more money on this thing unless I can do it myself. I've already been quoted minimum $700 to repair and I'm not spending $700 when odds are high the same thing will happen again. If it's ITAR sensitive info (which I find hard to believe) then please IM me. Other option is to junk it and get a Mod-3 or RNVG with anvis option. Lessons learned. #1 Always always always lanyard your stuff. #2 be more careful with Anvis ball detent/plunger goggles #3 Anvis-6/9s are not a good option for ground users. I'm sure the same or worse damage would happen if you smacked them against a wall, car door frame, etc. Help would be sincerely appreciated https://i.ibb.co/wwDwJdb/4-C9922-F9-6-DCC-4-A3-F-B9-B8-50-E1-A820-AE03.jpg https://i.ibb.co/847pNPW/82991-AA0-8717-45-FB-80-CB-FFE3-A247-DCEF.jpg View Quote |
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Thanks guys. I have some thinking to do.
At this point I’ll probably epoxy the shit out of it and see how long that’ll last for. The plan was buying this Anvis-9, swapping the tubes out with the Omni III/IVs that came in the used Sentinel I bought, then selling the Anvis-9. This obviously changes things lol. I’d take a good hit for the busted PAS. Reusing it I’m limited to Anvis housings and that’s a short ass list. At least the 10160s give me more options. I’m still holding out I’ll finger out how to swap the PAS and find one on fleabay. Perfect example of “win some lose some”. |
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Happened when she was deploying them from stowed they popped out of the Anvis mount. View Quote |
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Quoted: Which mount was being used? Just curious to watch out for this in the future. I've seen older SAMs a bit looser as compared to the Wilcox and Wilcox-clones. Never used an old ITT military aviation mount myself. View Quote |
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I got a set of anvis 6’s that are the same way. Does the RNVG housing accept the anvis 6 lenses also! Will-1 mine weren’t cracked as bad as yours. So I just made a up armor shield and epoxied it on.
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I got a set of anvis 6’s that are the same way. Does the RNVG housing accept the anvis 6 lenses also! Will-1 mine weren’t cracked as bad as yours. So I just made a up armor shield and epoxied it on. View Quote No, the RNVGs as of now don’t take Anvis but UNV posted something here about having some sets made to take the objectives. No ball detent though which is a bummer. I hope this will become an option just like the Mod-3 & Sentinel. What did you use for your up armor, epoxy, and how’s it holding up? |
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Will-1 I used a thin sheet of stainless steel and I bent it into a Chanel iron shape. I cut out the center and epoxied them on. I had to take the ball detent mount off the goggle’s shelf to epoxy it to the shelf. There my back up goggles but I use them quite often. Been using them like that for four years or so.I keep saying I’m going to have them fixed but I don’t see no need to since they are working great for now.
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I would up armor it and epoxy it with some matting material for strength, but that will impact resale, so might not be an option. Scour ebay and check for sold listings and see if anyone has that shelf to swap out. Try Ed Wilcox or Tom Lyons (outer edge optics - not sure if he is still in business).
You will be stripping all the parts and desoldering 4 wires. You will need a steady hand, but it isnt a difficult repair. |
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I saw a pad on eBay not long ago. It was only a couple hundred bucks. But that could be a couple hundred towards a stronger housing.
Always lanyard with anvis. They are so Dang fragile |
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Will,
Sorry I haven't responded to your e-mail yet, been out of the office for the last week, so trying to get caught up. ANVIS repairs and "up-armoring" came up in an earlier thread as well, IMHO, it's really just not worth trying to repair that bridge--it's easier to simply buy a new assembled PAS/monocular pod assembly and swap the tubes and optics. It's been a while since I've looked, but I've seen them on eBay and other places for around $450 or so. A vendor can get them quicker most likely, but expect to pay significantly more. RNVG, Sentinel, and other ground-hardened housings are a great option for whenever you're ready to do a full rebuild, but that's going to cost a bigger chunk of change than simply buying a new assembled PAS and swapping everything out. Up-armoring is an option, but it's the $1,000 question as to whether the device would have survived the same impact... or if it would have just broken somewhere else with the PAS reinforced. In many cases IMHO, the latter is more likely, again, as we all well know, the ANVIS isn't quite as durable as ground-hardened goggles. The ball-detent mount is definitely a little more tricky, especially for people who aren't used to it. ~Augee |
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An RNVG and a Sentinel absolutely would have survived the impact.
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I’ll post here as well.
I think an RNVG housing is the best choice. At the price point of RNVGs I think an ANVIS version would sell like hot cakes. Turn flimsily goggles into a hardened system, what’s not to like? Also, I’ve owned “armored” ANVIS and don’t really believe it’s worth the time and effort. |
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I’ll post here as well. I think an RNVG housing is the best choice. At the price point of RNVGs I think an ANVIS version would sell like hot cakes. Turn flimsily goggles into a hardened system, what’s not to like? Also, I’ve owned “armored” ANVIS and don’t really believe it’s worth the time and effort. View Quote |
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Despite their shortcomings in the ruggedness department, there’s just something extremely likeable about ANVIS goggles. It’s a mixture of things I suppose, price point relative to optical performance, insaley light weight, and ball-detent is cool and a good mounting system.
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Despite their shortcomings in the ruggedness department, there’s just something extremely likeable about ANVIS goggles. It’s a mixture of things I suppose, price point relative to optical performance, insaley light weight, and ball-detent is cool and a good mounting system. View Quote |
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I would probably toss a strap on both pods just in case is breaks again. I would also keep an eye out for a used Anvis bridge under $350-400. I have seen them sell pretty low and you just need one without electronics.
If you had to spend any more than 400, that is likely wasted $ and would be better spent upgrading to an RNVG or smimilar. Glad you see you got it working again. |
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theres one on ebay right now that the priced dropped from 350 to 300.
but if it were me, I would probably just use them epoxied back together until I could afford a new housing. Though I probably would have epoxied on a thing piece of aluminum as a reinforcement overtop the repair. Some time with a dremel and file set would produce good results, and it could be anodized for looks ANVIS RNVGs would be awesome. |
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@chosos @SGT-Fish
That’s a good idea to strap the pods. I’ve had a perfectly sized piece of aluminum angle sitting at the ready. Just need to mic it all out and cut. I’ve been running them for most the week and using it as I would normally not babying them. No issues so far. I saw that on eBay but will hold out longer. If I see a complete assembly for the right price I may snag it. |
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We keep bumping the -9 on stuff (unavoidable when using NVDs) so made my own up armor over the weekend to give it more life. Was debating on sending it for up armor but I'd rather put the $$ towards a different housing when the time comes. This is definitely a DIY-able project. I did the front only and will probably do the rear next weekend or following. I didn't use anything special to make it - scrap aluminum angle, digital calipers, hack saw, dremel, file, sand paper, and JB weld 2 part epoxy. Since I had the tools, I'm all in at $9.00 which was just the epoxy, lol. Not the prettiest/coolest but will do the job. It's not like I'm hurting resale since the PAS is already messed up. Only added 1.2 oz https://i.ibb.co/k2QjJMk/27-BA6-DFA-CA2-B-4-E9-A-83-D7-923-BF700184-B.jpg https://i.ibb.co/M8Vfk1Y/F97-A7-CAE-636-C-4274-A038-FA6305-E735-B1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/zQRdqN2/F906-A5-F0-5-FAD-4493-A1-B8-62-D0-F6-CE0-A32.jpg View Quote ..!.. Edit: How sturdy is it now? Is it still breakable in any easy way? |
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Quoted: This thread needs more pictures of people using the bird. :D ..!.. Edit: How sturdy is it now? Is it still breakable in any easy way? View Quote It’s quit a bit better I’m not as worried about cracking the PAS with hard bumps against a wall, vehicle ceiling, etc. if it fell again and landed on the ball detent interface it could still break it since that part can’t get reinforced. That, or if it landed on a monocular then there’s that. |
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An "old school" method of "reinforcing" ANVIS has been to just fill the whole PAS with epoxy.
You lose IPD adjustment and tilt adjustment, but it does make them more or less rock solid, and protects the next failure point, the monocular pod/IPD adjustment screws. I'd love to see someone just make a "ground ANVIS," I love the Sentinels and RNVGs, but even they added a bunch of stuff--a Delrin/aluminum ANVIS with some beefier parts would be a great system, could still be relatively lightweight and simple, just not so fragile, but there's not many people who want fewer features in their goggles... ~Augee |
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IMO the RNVGs would be perfect if they:
1. Ditched the onboard illuminator (its retarded) 2. IP adjustment is great but the jack screw setup seems kinda meh. I’d like to see something that really locks the pods in place once adjusted. It’s not like you’re adjusting them all the time. |
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An "old school" method of "reinforcing" ANVIS has been to just fill the whole PAS with epoxy. You lose IPD adjustment and tilt adjustment, but it does make them more or less rock solid, and protects the next failure point, the monocular pod/IPD adjustment screws. I'd love to see someone just make a "ground ANVIS," I love the Sentinels and RNVGs, but even they added a bunch of stuff--a Delrin/aluminum ANVIS with some beefier parts would be a great system, could still be relatively lightweight and simple, just not so fragile, but there's not many people who want fewer features in their goggles... ~Augee View Quote I’m glad I didn’t sell them & decided to fix them because I’ve really come to like these a lot. It’s mainly the lightness but of course the glass and ball detent. After watching Jamey Caldwell’s video on counterweights I decided to try it with the -9. It’s perfectly fine just using the battery pack. I can leave the chin strap off as long as my neck is erect, otherwise need to hook it up. With the chinstrap and a snug headband it’s good to go. |
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I love the weight of mine and the epoxy idea is really interesting.
I bet it would remove wobble in the pods. One of my IP adjustment screws seems to be fairly loose on my set. |
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I love the weight of mine and the epoxy idea is really interesting. I bet it would remove wobble in the pods. One of my IP adjustment screws seems to be fairly loose on my set. View Quote |
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