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Posted: 4/11/2022 9:18:47 AM EDT
So, I’m looking at some options for a front (weak side) pocket carry of a fixed blade. I am pretty much considering a Kydex sheath with the Utilitclip (Slim 3.3 version for deeper pocket carry).
Just curious as to those who carry as part of their EDC; blade types, any issues, learning curve? I really like the Amtac Blades concept, but despite the price, I’m not looking for a dedicated defensive blade and think more utilitarian. I have a few options on hand and once the Utiliclips come in, I’ll blade around a little. My concern is access to the blade. I’ve used ring-pommel knives which make indexing very intuitive and easy. The Amtac blade designs have a pronounced butt on their knives which makes access with your fingers much easier. Just interested to hear what you use, and any issues access the blade. I’m assuming thinner is slightly better for pocket carry; I have a few that will fit that category, I just need to figure out if I can make something work with what I have…for now. Purpose? Mostly utility, but I would always consider a knife a defensive tool when needed; maybe more like 70% utility / 30% defense. I know there are various methods of drawing, so I just want to make sure I can at least access it without needing to use three hands and two sets of eyes. Any insight, experiences, or recommendations from those who pocket carry fixed blades. ROCK6 |
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ESEE RB3
rkcustomkydex sheath. No clip TOPS Knives Eagles Shadow No clip |
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I carry an Izula in the factory sheath without any clips. It rides with my keys and is easy to pull out of the sheath using my thumb.
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A fixed blade clipped into a pocket isn’t the best option. You end up with a lot of handle sticking out of your pocket to get the sheath high enough that you can actually get the knife in and then you have a few inches of handle hanging out of your pocket.
The good news is that the same knife and sheath should work great for IWB once you realize that trying to carry it in a pocket pretty much sucks. |
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I carry a Tops street scapel 2 at work a lot, love that design. I've got it rigged on 550 outer cord to hang to abdomen area when worn as a neck knife. I wear a tight tshirt under my scrub top to hold it in place. I want to be able to get to it fast without having to shove my arm halfway up my shirt. I've pocket carried it before, you have to be very intentional about resheathing. Horizontal belt carry is my preferred for it.
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If you are clipping a fixed blade to your pocket with the handle visible you are doing it wrong. Drop knife and kydex sheath no clip into the pocket. Concealed
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Knives ship free has a few leather pocket holsters that work well. https://www.knivesshipfree.com/sheaths-fixed-blade-sheaths/
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Quoted: I carry an Izula in View Quote If my hand is in my pocket, I'm popping the knife out of the sheath, over and over and over. The sheath I bought has a lip that's easy to catch on the pocket if I screw up getting the sheath off the first time. " /> |
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Quoted: If you are clipping a fixed blade to your pocket with the handle visible you are doing it wrong. Drop knife and kydex sheath no clip into the pocket. Concealed View Quote OP wants this for a utility knife, that’s a major PITA to swap hands with your knife and fish the sheath out every time to put it back if you pop it out, or just having to deal with a loose sheath. Fixed blades belong on a belt or a pack. Period. |
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Quoted: OP wants this for a utility knife, that’s a major PITA to swap hands with your knife and fish the sheath out every time to put it back if you pop it out, or just having to deal with a loose sheath. Fixed blades belong on a belt or a pack. Period. View Quote As a guy who carries and uses my weak side pocket carried , concealed fixed blade a lot at work for almost 2 years now - I have 2 functioning hands and don't have any problems with switching hands as needed, or reaching in my pocket and retrieving the sheath when I'm done, or simply putting the knife in my back pocket if I need both hands momentarily. Maybe try it with a smaller fixed blade knife, or pants that aren't stretchy and form fitting. There are certain trade offs if you want a fixed blade knife to pocket carry. I abuse the fuck out of mine on a weekly basis - like hitting the spine with a framing hammer to cut nylon strapping on materials. Unlike a folder, there's not much that can go wrong. If I ever manage to break mine, I'll just buy another one. Attached File |
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Quoted: Friends don't let friends overpay for D2 knives View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I bet a Skallywag Aculeus would work for you. Friends don't let friends overpay for D2 knives There's that but they have sales and blems for normalish rates. I've got an Aculeus and it's pretty damn ok. |
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Question for Doubleplusgood, on your pocket Shrike, how well does the pronounced butt/pommel aid in both indexing and drawing your knife from the pocket?
@ROCK6 it works really well for those things. it is a small knife, by design. very pointy. |
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Yeah, I'm finding having a little something to index your finger on makes it much easier to draw. Also, I have a few blades where the sheath houses more of the blade, which makes them a little easier to sit in the pocket. This is where I think (at least for me), Kydex is superior to leather as it's thinner. Comfort is relative, but if the profile is flat and not too wide, it's a pretty comfortable rig.
ROCK6 |
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subbed. I've been interested in this for a while, but never figured out a way to do it comfortably. Either the knife is too small to be much use or the damn thing is too big to actually get carried.
currently a Microtech Combat Troodon in the back pocket. Almost 4" blade, 9.5" overall, handle is 5.5" without the glass breaker. About the size and weight of a loaded 1911 mag, and will fit in some of those carriers if I had reason to carry that way instead. For a non-hard use knife (i'm in an office, not construction) it works great for me. If I'm in need of a fixed blade there's always one nearby |
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The Amtac Northman is probably the perfect mix of utilitarian and defensive. It fits small and big hands alike. Pocket carry is extremely comfortable and reachable. Other than the BEDU it is probably my favorite carry knife.
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Quoted: The Amtac Northman is probably the perfect mix of utilitarian and defensive. It fits small and big hands alike. Pocket carry is extremely comfortable and reachable. Other than the BEDU it is probably my favorite carry knife. View Quote Tell me about the utilitarian aspect? I like the design for mostly a defensive blade, but I'm struggling with the design as a dual purpose, utilitarian/defensive blade. That said, I love the pocket concept and I got some various pocket clips in for a few blades that might fit the bill. Just working through the concept. ROCK6 |
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Quoted: Tell me about the utilitarian aspect? I like the design for mostly a defensive blade, but I'm struggling with the design as a dual purpose, utilitarian/defensive blade. That said, I love the pocket concept and I got some various pocket clips in for a few blades that might fit the bill. Just working through the concept. ROCK6 View Quote This will do better than any text I can type here. AMTAC Blades Northman |
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Screw Benchmade and all that, but i do have and like the single edge SOCP if you like a ring knife.
There are similar options like the Americam Kami GTFO and Spartan Blades CQB. |
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Between this thread and my daily carry kershaw folder not locking at all and my ZT not locking open in my left had I decoded to get a fixed blade pocket carry. Wound up getting an Izula 2. With the stock sheath it works well but I will probably get a kydex holster at some point. I use the lanyard ring on the butt to index my pinky when drawing.
ETA I don't use the clip so far it sits in my front pocket just fine without much movement. |
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I pocket carry this. I need to get a different clip.
Suggestions? Attached File I love this freaking blade. I over paid for it. Bought in Eureka springs. I used it last fall to gut a buck. The blade held a edge extremely well. I even batoned it to cut through the tail bone. Not to expensive either. Like 50 or 60 |
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Quoted: I pocket carry this. I need to get a different clip. Suggestions? View Quote Another option I'm trying along with the Utiliclips are HLR Discreet Carry Clips Discreet Carry Concepts clips ROCK6 |
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Quoted: As a guy who carries and uses my weak side pocket carried , concealed fixed blade a lot at work for almost 2 years now - I have 2 functioning hands and don't have any problems with switching hands as needed, or reaching in my pocket and retrieving the sheath when I'm done, or simply putting the knife in my back pocket if I need both hands momentarily. Maybe try it with a smaller fixed blade knife, or pants that aren't stretchy and form fitting. There are certain trade offs if you want a fixed blade knife to pocket carry. I abuse the fuck out of mine on a weekly basis - like hitting the spine with a framing hammer to cut nylon strapping on materials. Unlike a folder, there's not much that can go wrong. If I ever manage to break mine, I'll just buy another one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22018/20220411_112438_jpg-2345591.JPG View Quote Good points. I tried pocket carrying an izula for a few months and ultimately went back to clip folders for speed and general ease of use. Izula and a squarish leather sheath was a great combo for it though. |
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Small update, a few blades I've been playing with, most are better suited to waist belt (IWB) carry, but I got a few pocket sheaths made for a couple and it's really the best way to go for pocket carry:
The two pocket sheaths were done by Gypsy EDC. Aaron is a stellar guy who makes very simple, but exceptionally well thought out pocket sheaths. I will probably get a couple more made from him. Fully ambidextrous, excellent and solid friction fit, smooth back for comfortable carry, with a solid pocket clip setup. I've been doing drills with both the Minuteman and the Picolomako and they are extremely well suited to this form of carry and draw. The length may matter, but for most pockets that aren't shallow, even the longer Minuteman rides very well and unobtrusive. Best pockets are high cut, not the side-slash pockets. This type of carry is situational for me as not all my pants or shorts will work with them and it's best suited to mostly a weak-hand draw for defensive purposes. I still keep the IWB sheaths for those other instances, but pocket carry (with the right pants/shorts) is quite comfortable for me and with the right pommel/deeper punyo make access much easier and quicker to get a consistently solid grip. So far, pretty happy with these two front pocket sheaths, there are a couple smaller fixed blades that get some front-left-side horizontal carry that I still like (Spyderco Street Beat, Bradford Guardian, and White River Model #1); they carry discreetly under a T-shirt and easy to access with right or left hand. I may do some work with the smaller TDI, BM Azeria or Clinch Pick as well.... ROCK6 |
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I like this one a lot for the Nlorthman.
https://amtacblades.com/product/amtac-blades-northman-pocket-firesheath/ |
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Quoted: I like this one a lot for the Nlorthman. https://amtacblades.com/product/amtac-blades-northman-pocket-firesheath/ View Quote Yeah, but they've been out of stock and the reply I got back was they're hoping to get some made by August. I went with a custom route that works extremely well. Regardless, both the AMTAC and Gypsy EDC sheaths are very well made and both ambidextrous, which I really appreciate. ROCK6 |
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Quoted: If you are clipping a fixed blade to your pocket with the handle visible you are doing it wrong. Drop knife and kydex sheath no clip into the pocket. Concealed View Quote There are places this will get you arrested. In my local if the clip or handle are showing it isn't an illegally concealed weapon. |
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Quoted: These are both good points and much depends on local laws. We can conceal or open carry knives (and handguns) with our current "weapon carry license" (now Constitutional Carry). I'm okay with a little visible, many see a pocket clip and just assume it's a knife, I'm not as concerned. California is whacked, but a guy who passed away last year, used to carry a larger fixed blade that was inverted and the handle just visible below his shirt or jacket. I stole this picture from him: ROCK6 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: These are both good points and much depends on local laws. We can conceal or open carry knives (and handguns) with our current "weapon carry license" (now Constitutional Carry). I'm okay with a little visible, many see a pocket clip and just assume it's a knife, I'm not as concerned. California is whacked, but a guy who passed away last year, used to carry a larger fixed blade that was inverted and the handle just visible below his shirt or jacket. I stole this picture from him: ROCK6 Exactly. Depends on the municipality. For example this: No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a dagger, any knife with a blade more than two and one-half inches in length, or other dangerous weapon. Now, what does that mean? |
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Quoted: Exactly. Depends on the municipality. For example this: Now, what does that mean? View Quote That's my work restriction...I've been able to get by with a 3" bades, but we have metal detectors and sporadic checks and wands. Military base and three letter agency campus. EDC with fixed blade is when not working... ROCK6 |
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This thread has inspired me to order a Cold Steel Bird and Game and a sheath with an ulticlip slim.
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Quoted: These are both good points and much depends on local laws. We can conceal or open carry knives (and handguns) with our current "weapon carry license" (now Constitutional Carry). I'm okay with a little visible, many see a pocket clip and just assume it's a knife, I'm not as concerned. California is whacked, but a guy who passed away last year, used to carry a larger fixed blade that was inverted and the handle just visible below his shirt or jacket. I stole this picture from him: https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/Charlie%20Mike%20Carry_zpsju90v66j.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds ROCK6 View Quote And that would be legal. With folders if the clip is showing it isn't concealed. Drop it in the pocket where none of it can be seen it is. Expect changes now that three folks were attacked in a "mass" knife attack. Imagine if someone in that gun free zone had been armed. |
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View Quote @doubleplusgood what knife is that on the right? |
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Quoted: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20220601_195530_(2).jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20220601_195308.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds View Quote @rock6 what knife is that in the top pic? |
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Quoted: @doubleplusgood what knife is that on the right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: @doubleplusgood what knife is that on the right? that is the Flat Rock Shrike |
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Thanks
I was looking at this blade for appendix iwb carry The two knives in photos I quoted above look similar https://complianceedgeknives.com/products/dck?variant=42952815673568 |
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Thanks to this thread, I just ordered an AmTac Northman.
Looking forward to receiving it and getting some training. |
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Quoted: Thanks to this thread, I just ordered an AmTac Northman. Looking forward to receiving it and getting some training. View Quote I use the trainer at the range, doing simple drills of drawing (either from the pocket or IWB), creating space and then going for the pistol. All are contact-distance drills. Don't use your regular blade too much, I shredded my cardboard target frame ROCK6 |
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Quoted: I use the trainer at the range, doing simple drills of drawing (either from the pocket or IWB), creating space and then going for the pistol. All are contact-distance drills. Don't use your regular blade too much, I shredded my cardboard target frame ROCK6 View Quote I saw the review where the dude was drawing the trainer from his belt and striking the wood board. I'm going to try that. |
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