Yep. I know the feeling. My plan was to order and put aside the first two received for myself. Once it became clear that FLIR was shipping so slow that plan changed to get them out to customers that were technically behind my order on the wait list, so they wouldn't have to wait as long.

If you have a pre-order in with us you realize you have not been charged nor will you be until it's ready to ship. And we cover all that in the pre-order email and the email updates you get.

Suffice to say the original quote from FLIR of "8 weeks" on the PRO PTS233s was not even close.

ALL we can do is not charge until the order is ready to ship, ship in the order received (sans me putting customers in front of my personal orders) and push FLIR to ship quicker. Everyone is in the same damn boat unfortunately.

Remember, as we cover succinctly in the pre-order email and the update emails, we are more than happy to cancel any pre-orders, just EMAIL me and let me know. If you'd like to cancel just shoot me an email with your full name and I will email back confirming cancellation.

Can I get an amen?

+ 1 million

I have no doubt you'll be able to find one less than full retail

I'm guessing everyone will know more after SHOT is over. I'll find out what I can.

I hear ya on that.

Who knows for sure, but suffice to say I've run down a ton of internet speculation and rumors over the last 3/4 of a year concerning this model. Everyone and their brother "knew" someone at FLIR was that "in the know" that said some shit that wasn't correct. I spent a lot of time running down these rumors finding damn near all of them to be BS.

So in short I'm not too concerned about he said she said anymore on this as most of it has been rumor and fake news.

But to be clear, FLIR definitely effed up the "launch" of this unit, including sending a data sheet showing it was weapons mountable, etc.

A big part of the problem with some of these conglomerations of big corporations is that they are so SEGMENTED. Something is built in one part of the country, it's sold via an office in another part of the country, it's billed and charged through an office in another part of the country. Communications is typically SHITTY inside these big companies so that further messes up the plot..  "Production" says we have 50 units coming out on the 10th, sales (in another state) hears they have units coming so they tell dealers "we can ship all these orders in two weeks", then only 30 units are received, 4 weeks later (in yet another office in yet another state), then you get the "allotment" system going to be make everything "fair", so the dealer that has first order in at 30 units receives 2 and everyone else also receives 2. All the way each segment of the company thinks everything is going well and sees no problem with it, or can blame "production" for this or that. Or more to the point, "production" tells "sales" that this model will have a rotating super widget on it because someone thinks that's a good idea, then R and D steps in and says "oh no you can't put a super widget on that model, the core isn't beefed up enough to take the recoil." Meanwhile sales has told everyone the unit will definitely have a super widget capability....

This doesn't just apply to the company being referenced in this thread, I've seen this a ton in a LOT of big corporations.

So to be sure it's a sucky situation for both consumers and dealers as well. To be honest I wished I had never listed these before I received my first shipment of them. But often times we are still AT SHOT show and having people call and ask "do you have the new XYZ unit?" You mean the one they just debuted here today that won't even be in production for six months?  Seriously, this happens every year. So you want to have the info out there for customers, but then you get screwed when the launch is messed up by the manufacturer.

+1

Angelo is the only one there I can get straight answers out of, or even timely replies from. Good guy in my book.

Some pics of the redesigned FLIR Breach Thermal monocular







Very durable feel and build to this unit IMO. Great resolution for the price point.

Got the standard "shipping in March" to which I replied- "so tell customers June then?"

Given the previous snafu(s) on FLIR ship dates, I would say "sometime this year" to be safe :)

Correct. Shows like that on the data sheet and was not told otherwise.

I think they stated MSRP to be around $2495.

Keep in mind up to the not so distant past, this much $$  would barely get you a Scout II with internal battery, not nearly as clear, definitely not 12um.

That being said, I wish they would have stuck with their original stated price. This whole thing has been a cluster from the beginning- raising the retail price on top of that is a bad move IMO. But I don't work at FLIR and I don't set prices unfortunately.

However it is 60 hz.

Legit question and I asked that very thing- WTF is the deal with the pre-orders I've had in since last spring at the lower price? The reply was they were working on figuring that part out. I'm guessing it's easier to pass that info along via email versus in person.

If you have a pre-order in with us on the Breach, you'll be getting an email soon- I'm waiting for confirmed pricing on the Breach. For the people that stuck with it patiently all this time, I'll do everything I can- someone has to try to straighten out this frickin mess!! Applicable only to pre-orders that have stuck with it.

We actually shut down pre-orders for this item a couple months back when the info stopped flowing for a bit there, so between that and the fact that a lot of folks switched over to the PRO PTS233s when they started shipping, plus cancellations, our pre-order list for the Breach isn't but maybe 1/4 of what it was for the PRO PTS233s when they came out.

If you have a pre-order in with us on the Breach, be sure you read and respond to the email sent this morning.

A little news on the "Breach"- take it for what it's worth-

Saw an estimated ship date of April 15th on a NEW order that was just sent in to them. Again, a new order just from a few days ago, not the dozens of pre-orders already in.

As we all should know by now, this is FLIR so it is just an "estimate", but does give a little hope on this module!!!

So for the "I'll wait till after they start shipping and then try to find one in stock" types- I have a feeling this is going to be a situation just like the PRO PTS233, there will be a backup for a while and you'd be hard pressed to find one just sitting on someone's shelf just waiting for you to order it! Hence it would be wise to get your pre-order in somewhere now if your considering a Breach unit.