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Posted: 1/26/2018 10:21:53 PM EDT
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If he is engaged in the business of refinishing (which includes camo dipping) on the serial numbers parts, i.e. the "gun", he does need a FFL, but those activities are not considered “manufacturing”
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/license-needed-engage-business-engraving-customizing-refinishing-or-repairing-firearms https://www.atf.gov/file/55461/download |
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Posted: 1/26/2018 10:56:32 PM EDT
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If he is engaged in the business of refinishing (which includes camo dipping) on the serial numbers parts, i.e. the "gun", he does need a FFL, but those activities are not considered “manufacturing” https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/license-needed-engage-business-engraving-customizing-refinishing-or-repairing-firearms https://www.atf.gov/file/55461/download 
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Posted: 1/26/2018 11:28:22 PM EDT
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Learn to do your own hydro dipping of your own weapons OP. Your friend can probably teach you everything you need to know.
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:19:05 AM EDT
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Have a friend/coworker who does hydro-dipping as a hobby. He has done a shotgun stock and forearm for me and it turned out great. I've asked him about doing more work for me (lowers, pistols, etc). He says he can't do anything with a serial number because It would be considered 'manufacturing'. So the question is, does he need an FFL to be able to hydro-dip an item with a serial number? TIA |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 2:23:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the intel and links. I will forward it to him. Unfortunately now he can't do some of the stuff I wanted! |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 12:29:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I remember correctly, if you were to stay at his place while the work is being done, you will be ok. Additionally, I have done gunsmithing for friends and did not accept any pay for the work, so I was not "engaged in the business" at that time. Just like loaning a gun to a buddy for him to hunt with etc. It just mysteriously got dipped!  . Then I just accidentally drop some cash on his kitchen table on my way out the door . I know it's splitting hairs, but it's highly unlikely to raise any eyebrows.
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Posted: 1/28/2018 12:33:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He does not need an FFL to do that, and that is not what defines MFGing. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 12:49:32 AM EDT
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After checking the links provided above, I realize it's not considered manufacturing but is considered gunsmithing which I believe requires the FFL. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:53:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if he is not engaged in the business, which based on what you wrote, he clearly is not. |
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