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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:23:09 PM EDT
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Get both.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:26:56 PM EDT
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I own both guns but it would be hard for me to say which is a better fit for you.
What other machineguns do you already own (assume you own others being a SOT), what access to ranges do you have (i.e. can you shoot rifle caliber guns as easily as subguns), and do you have a preference for subguns over rifle caliber guns or vis versa. Personally for me I would choose the HK33 over the Uzi, but I also am not really a very big Uzi fan (understanding that I am in the minority in this option) and am sort of an HK junkie myself. I also prefer rifle caliber guns over subguns in general as well, but again that just me. If I was an SOT and had access to presamples I would definitely buy another presample HK33 and swap or cut the barrel to make it an HK33K which is one of m favorite rifle caliber machineguns. I wouldnt personally bother to buy another presample Uzi as I don't shoot the transferable one I own much to begin with. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:34:51 PM EDT
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Love them both. UZI is usually cheaper to feed. HK33 is usually a more expensive weapon. Prefer the M16 to the HK33, but I do enjoy my HK53 a lot for being compact with a side folder.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:40:41 PM EDT
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I have a pre sample MP5SD so I would probably get the Uzi just to keep in-line with that caliber.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:47:33 PM EDT
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Get the Uzi and tell me where I can get the pre86 HK33.
 You're kind of comparing 2 systems that don't relate. Uzi is likely more controllable and cheaper to shoot. If I was going 5.56 I'd go with M16 but unfortunately any pre86 of those are extraordinary high due limit # of them imported. Off Colt brand would be cheaper. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 4:50:22 PM EDT
[#6]
The uzi is pretty meh to shoot.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 5:02:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get the Uzi and tell me where I can get the pre86 HK33. You're kind of comparing 2 systems that don't relate. Uzi is likely more controllable and cheaper to shoot. If I was going 5.56 I'd go with M16 but unfortunately any pre86 of those are extraordinary high due limit # of them imported. Off Colt brand would be cheaper. Lol the hk33 is gem mint!! I won’t say what I might be paying for it but will ask what are they going for “Now” a days! Yes I understand it’s not a good comparison.I’m not a huge fan of a m16, just weighing options. All input is greatly appreciated. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 5:23:07 PM EDT
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HK33
+1 convert to HK33k |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 5:39:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HK33 +1 convert to HK33k That was my plan! If I went that route! |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 5:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HK33 +1 convert to HK33k Valid point. 
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Posted: 2/26/2021 7:39:58 PM EDT
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Also consider that you can run 9mm / 40SW / .357 Sig / .45ACP / 10mm / 22LR in the UZI.
With the way ammo is going these days...it gives you more options to what is available. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 7:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also consider that you can run 9mm / 40SW / .357 Sig / .45ACP / 10mm / 22LR in the UZI. With the way ammo is going these days...it gives you more options to what is available. This is true as well!!!! |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 7:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is true as well!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also consider that you can run 9mm / 40SW / .357 Sig / .45ACP / 10mm / 22LR in the UZI. With the way ammo is going these days...it gives you more options to what is available. This is true as well!!!! In 9mm it is kinda boring as the full size UZI is kind of overbuilt for it (nice in the MINI UZI though). .40 / .45 / 10mm livens it up like a totally different gun. Get like 35 or so rounds with GG mags for .40SW / 10mm. 22LR is self explanatory and runs very well.....actually they all run well....but 22LR is worth noting since many 22LR kits are not known for running well in MG's. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just to add...don't know if you've tried UZI's in the different calibers... In 9mm it is kinda boring as the full size UZI is kind of overbuilt for it (nice in the MINI UZI though). .40 / .45 / 10mm livens it up like a totally different gun. Get like 35 or so rounds with GG mags for .40SW / 10mm. 22LR is self explanatory and runs very well.....actually they all run well....but 22LR is worth noting since many 22LR kits are not known for running well in MG's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Also consider that you can run 9mm / 40SW / .357 Sig / .45ACP / 10mm / 22LR in the UZI. With the way ammo is going these days...it gives you more options to what is available. This is true as well!!!! In 9mm it is kinda boring as the full size UZI is kind of overbuilt for it (nice in the MINI UZI though). .40 / .45 / 10mm livens it up like a totally different gun. Get like 35 or so rounds with GG mags for .40SW / 10mm. 22LR is self explanatory and runs very well.....actually they all run well....but 22LR is worth noting since many 22LR kits are not known for running well in MG's. Hmmmmm!!!! |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 12:18:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also consider that you can run 9mm / 40SW / .357 Sig / .45ACP / 10mm / 22LR in the UZI. With the way ammo is going these days...it gives you more options to what is available. You forgot .41AE... 
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:14:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot .41AE... On the note of oddball, I was thinking that someone should easily be able to also do a .22 TCM with just a custom barrel for the UZI. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 6:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh...nah intentionally left it out since it is so impractical. I still have .41 magnum dies and some live .41AE rounds and brass with nothing that chambers it anymore. Need to dump it. On the note of oddball, I was thinking that someone should easily be able to also do a .22 TCM with just a custom barrel for the UZI. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You forgot .41AE... On the note of oddball, I was thinking that someone should easily be able to also do a .22 TCM with just a custom barrel for the UZI. btw. Thank you for all your research and dedication you have done with FA 22,9mm and 556 AR15 platforms. I have used a lot of your info and applied it. My M16 with the kynshot5005, Tubbs flat wire spring and Seekins atc brake runs like a dream. Feels like shooting a 22!!!! |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 6:25:22 PM EDT
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If you've already got an M16, getting the Hk33 seems like just more of the same as what you already have except less optionable.
Getting the UZI would be a totally different platform (subgun) and range of available calibers. Of course, when you're talking about pre-samples, there are a lot of 9mm subgun flavors to choose from. Some commonly seen ones that come to mind other than the UZI would be a Beretta PM12s a Madsen 50 and the Walther MPL/MPK as well as the Mp5. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 6:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you've already got an M16, getting the Hk33 seems like just more of the same as what you already have except less optionable. Getting the UZI would be a totally different platform (subgun) and range of available calibers. Of course, when you're talking about pre-samples, there are a lot of 9mm subgun flavors to choose from. Some commonly seen ones that come to mind other than the UZI would be a Beretta PM12s a Madsen 50 and the Walther MPL/MPK as well as the Mp5. Good thoughts here. My M16 is a postie. Madsen I have. Mpk or Mpl I would love but parts are rarer than blue Unicorns and a Premay Pm12 is like 20k(ouch) |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 8:12:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good thoughts here. My M16 is a postie. Madsen I have. Mpk or Mpl I would love but parts are rarer than blue Unicorns and a Premay Pm12 is like 20k(ouch) Premay MP12s don't sell for anywhere near 20k. There was a guy listing one on GB recently for as low as 16k and it didn't sell. I think 13k - 14k is more realistic. Another thing to consider about the Hk33 is the the barrel isn't chrome lined and 5.56 wears barrels out quickly. Especially in FA. And replacing barrels in a Hk isn't as easy or cheap as in the M16 (or the uzi for that matter). And 5.56 Hk mags aren't very cheap either. |
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