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Posted: 6/7/2019 2:32:16 PM EDT
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I'd really like to see video of the HUD and augmented reality stuff in action. The idea of that blows me away.
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Biggest difference is 640 core on the e-COTI versus 320 core on the original. “E” is also more rugged / not as fragile and, rumor has it, that the “E” has a less deleterious effect on i2 tubes than the earlier models.
Unfortunately, they didn’t take this opportunity to expand the circle to the full 40* image diameter, which is stupid and still sucks. The Brits did it years ago and got it right. I don’t see why they didn’t follow suit. |
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Restriction is off-and-on with the e-COTI. Only recently did it go back on restriction. I presume is has to do with availability and .GOV orders. As I understand it, it’s basically up to the manufacturer (Optics1, in this case) unless some Alphabet Soup agency requests restriction of a particular product, but I doubt that’s the case with the COTI.
ETA: I almost suspect a bit of marketing ploy in this case. Create a sense of urgency when it becomes available, for a short time, to the civilian market again — “Hey look! They’re available again! Snag one quick while we still can!” |
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1. If they made it 40 deg 640 instead of 30 deg 640 there would be no increase in resolution over 20 deg 320. 30 deg 640 improves both FOV and resolution.
2. Is the ECOTI a smaller chip? Smaller chip means smaller lens. EDIT: 25 um vs 17 um core so yes, thats why the smaller lens. |
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Restriction is off-and-on with the e-COTI. Only recently did it go back on restriction. I presume is has to do with availability and .GOV orders. As I understand it, it’s basically up to the manufacturer (Optics1, in this case) unless some Alphabet Soup agency requests restriction of a particular product, but I doubt that’s the case with the COTI. ETA: I almost suspect a bit of marketing ploy in this case. Create a sense of urgency when it becomes available, for a short time, to the civilian market again — “Hey look! They’re available again! Snag one quick while we still can!” View Quote Safran Optics is the parent manufacture. And no marketing ploys at stake in that regard. |
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Can it be powered from a battery pack? View Quote |
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The E COTI can be, but for the price difference I'm happy with my COTI amd using CR123A only. View Quote I don't necessarily need an external battery but I definitely need more than 3 hours per night. It if can be turned on and off quickly it might still work without an external battery The Breach is terrible when it comes to rapid on/off |
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Power up is not bad, I just leave it on and swap out battery when it runs low. Easy to do without removing it from the nods. The beauty of the coti and e-coti is it giving you thermal info while on the move. Run time is better on the e-coti.
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That's good to know thanks
I have a lot of time with the Breach + PVS14 combo and like it but want higher resolution, plus I love my binos and want the best of both worlds |
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Coti/e-coti are not going to necessarily give you better resolution than a breach. There purpose is more or less short range detection while using nods. I use outline most of the time, it gives the best detection range. When I dectect something in the distance and I cant’t determine what is is, I either use my ir patrol or 3x magnifier to positivity id.
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What's the power up time on the E COTI and COTI? I don't necessarily need an external battery but I definitely need more than 3 hours per night. It if can be turned on and off quickly it might still work without an external battery The Breach is terrible when it comes to rapid on/off View Quote I thought about selling my TACS-M to fund a Breach, but being able to navigate with a fused image, turning it on/off vs lifting it out of the way, and the light weight even with binos on keeps me from selling it. If I needed to locate game I'd go with a breach all day long, but for CQB work or near dark lighting you can't beat a fusion system. |
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How’s the sensitivity - how does it do with false hits like rocks, concrete, etc versus people/animals?
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Coti/e-coti are not going to necessarily give you better resolution than a breach. There purpose is more or less short range detection while using nods. I use outline most of the time, it gives the best detection range. When I dectect something in the distance and I cant’t determine what is is, I either use my ir patrol or 3x magnifier to positivity id. View Quote |
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How’s the sensitivity - how does it do with false hits like rocks, concrete, etc versus people/animals? View Quote |
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Cool. @TheHorta - you mentioned deleterious effects. So, these damage tubes?
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Does anyone want this COTI missing sensor and lens?
Menu works fine. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/I-bought-this-broken-COTI-Is-there-any-use-for-it-/18-488434/ |
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Would be interested in that COTI carcass, will shoot you an email.
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What image would you see if you were wearing a PVS and E-COTI while driving a blacked-out truck through a field at night? Specifically I mean looking through the windshield.
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Ahhh, haha I see what you guys mean now
Can't comment myself. I'm still struggling not to buy a COTI |
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With the E-COTI on, does the reflection interfere with the I2 image? Maybe that's what he meant? View Quote |
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No issues looking through a wind shield with the COTI or E-COTI, on Outline or Patrol mode with the brightness properly adjusted, the thermal FOV "disappears" unless it senses something, so you can look straight through it without any ill effects unless there's a significant change in temperature, and with Outline/Edge Detect, you're still going to see through the "center," if that makes sense.
While some of the E-COTI's augmented reality features can be used "stand-alone," most of those features are designed to be used with various Mission Command applications that are also restricted to LE/military use, so not all of them will be usable as an individual when using the E-COTI. The current restriction on the E-COTI has everything to do with contracts and availability from Safran Optics1--the guys that got them recently can attest to the difficult lead times SO1 gave for the delivery of this last batch of commercial units, however the AN/PAS-29A COTI is currently available commercially, but for the time being, the E-COTI is not, though we are working on trying to get at least some made available for commercial sales again. ~Augee |
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Breach on left eye
Pvs-14/COTI tight eye Pretty awesome setup/video https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=VAQnwKMMW2w&fbclid=IwAR23JjqlZJZFOU3RZNUgjpXxuSATJsZiWY_IZPTBLE_zR1aVbk6k01kMhzA |
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@UNV - seriously, dual thermals? Which ones?
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I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made! https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG View Quote |
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I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made! https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG View Quote |
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I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made! https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG View Quote |
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That's what I do too. Works like a charmhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20181003_215702-693453.jpg View Quote |
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No issues looking through a wind shield with the COTI or E-COTI, on Outline or Patrol mode with the brightness properly adjusted, the thermal FOV "disappears" unless it senses something, so you can look straight through it without any ill effects unless there's a significant change in temperature, and with Outline/Edge Detect, you're still going to see through the "center," if that makes sense. I have had some odd occasions where I can see a thermal reflection in my side mirrors (will try to get some video of it in the near future) using Outline mode--which should not be possible and I cannot explain at this point other than probably being a programming/software artifact. While some of the E-COTI's augmented reality features can be used "stand-alone," most of those features are designed to be used with various Mission Command applications that are also restricted to LE/military use, so not all of them will be usable as an individual when using the E-COTI. The current restriction on the E-COTI has everything to do with contracts and availability from Safran Optics1--the guys that got them recently can attest to the difficult lead times SO1 gave for the delivery of this last batch of commercial units, however the AN/PAS-29A COTI is currently available commercially, but for the time being, the E-COTI is not, though we are working on trying to get at least some made available for commercial sales again. ~Augee View Quote |
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